terminator ultra Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 was just wondering if the pariahs were still part of the lore. N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382269-are-there-still-pariahs-in-40k/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Not really. They've never been officially removed, but as far as I know they haven't been mentioned at all in years. N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382269-are-there-still-pariahs-in-40k/#findComment-6021353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminator ultra Posted February 6 Author Share Posted February 6 41 minutes ago, Tyriks said: They've never been officially removed good enough for me to say they are still there N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382269-are-there-still-pariahs-in-40k/#findComment-6021367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Both Sisters of Silence and the Culexus Assassin carry the Pariah gene. But the Necron unit was phased out in the 5th edition codex IIRC with Lycheguard and Praetorians taking over the melee infantry role. N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382269-are-there-still-pariahs-in-40k/#findComment-6021370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Yea, bit of a shame, they were going down the route of experimentation on humans and necrons trying to regain mortal shells, but took a different direction with the 4th ed book. No reason to say you couldn't call your lychguard or praetorian dudes pariahs. N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382269-are-there-still-pariahs-in-40k/#findComment-6021383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I think that there's space for some form of Necron-Human hybrid to return to the setting, but as mentioned there's been no mention of them since the 5th edition Codex. The soul-death caused by the Pariah Nexus/Nephilim Anomaly has created many test subjects for Crypteks. You never know what may come of that combined with the Silent King's "final atonement for the fate to which he consigned his people". N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382269-are-there-still-pariahs-in-40k/#findComment-6021435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahzek451 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Possibly silly as hell, but it would be fun if there was a secret alternative goal in the pariah nexus, illuminor has also been studying the subjects afflicted in the area on his journey to study the flesh, has created hybrids and GW releases updated pariah models. N1SB, Karhedron and Daimyo-Phaeron Lenoch 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382269-are-there-still-pariahs-in-40k/#findComment-6021446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimyo-Phaeron Lenoch Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 A Phaeron can dream, Azhek… a Phaeron can but dream. (i would DEARLY love to have Pariahs back) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382269-are-there-still-pariahs-in-40k/#findComment-6021649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 I would like to have them back, as Pariah Nexus-drained humans that have been converted into new Necron Pariahs. Gives the Necrons a new (or rather re-worked old) twist and makes Szeras's experiments have some sort of success, even if it is not successful in converting Necrons into a biological Necrontyr form yet. terminator ultra and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382269-are-there-still-pariahs-in-40k/#findComment-6021663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 If Pariahs came back as converted humans, would it aesthetically be the opposite of Flayed Ones? Sort of seems like two sides of the same grimdark coin. Their original lore was that they were humans with the pariah gene that had been captured and put through biotransferance. Perhaps now with the advent of Cryptothralls we'd see (totally not Borg) humans with Canoptek additions (that don't remind you at all of the Borg). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382269-are-there-still-pariahs-in-40k/#findComment-6021775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminator ultra Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 (edited) 28 minutes ago, NTaW said: would it aesthetically be the opposite of Flayed Ones? Sort of seems like two sides of the same grimdark coin a blood drenched coin that is made of necrodermis 10 hours ago, Lord_Ikka said: I would like to have them back, as Pariah Nexus-drained humans that have been converted into new Necron Pariahs. Gives the Necrons a new (or rather re-worked old) twist and makes Szeras's experiments have some sort of success, even if it is not successful in converting Necrons into a biological Necrontyr form yet I think the problem is that this just solves all the necons's problems. there goals would be complete. best of both worlds. On 2/6/2024 at 11:25 AM, Xenith said: bit of a shame, they were going down the route of experimentation on humans and necrons trying to regain mortal shells, but took a different direction with the 4th ed book. No reason to say you couldn't call your lychguard or praetorian dudes pariahs. yeah I like the autonomy of the prirahs. what kind of mini would you use for for a kill team of them?+rules? 14 hours ago, Daimyo-Phaeron Lenoch said: a Phaeron can but dream. did the necrons dream while asleep? Edited February 8 by terminator ultra Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382269-are-there-still-pariahs-in-40k/#findComment-6021781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 5 hours ago, terminator ultra said: I think the problem is that this just solves all the necons's problems. there goals would be complete. best of both worlds. It doesn't solve the problem of the Necrons still being stuck in metallic forms, it is just part of the process of the Illuminator recreating the biotransference. The goal is for the Necrons to do the opposite- to take their memory engrams/metal bodies and put them in fleshy bodies that are longer-lived (and no longer cancer-infested) than their original forms. Pariahs are just biotransferred humans (originally with the Pariah gene), having the same process that the original Necrontyr had done to them. The Necrons don't want to turn every other species into a version of what they are now, they want to go back to being biological creatures. How the Necrons view humans (and other xenos) depends on each individual Dynasty and Phaeron; some will cooperate with humans/xenos to face a bigger threat (ie- Nids), others will conquer and enslave "lesser" lifeforms, while other groups will just eliminate anything that is not Necron. There is no coherent policy among the dynasties. Tyriks 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382269-are-there-still-pariahs-in-40k/#findComment-6021828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 If I recall they were a strong anti psyker unit. I still have 1 or 2 of the old metal models hanging around. They really were a very cool concept. I confess that I felt certain they were going to be our new unit for the codex release. Since we never did get a new squad, I hold out hope these guys will make a comeback. in the back of my mind I wondered if there would be mention of it in the new Pariah Mexus campaign book. Which just came out a few days ago but I don’t have it yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382269-are-there-still-pariahs-in-40k/#findComment-6021849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 16 hours ago, NTaW said: Their original lore was that they were humans with the pariah gene that had been captured and put through biotransferance. Perhaps now with the advent of Cryptothralls we'd see (totally not Borg) humans with Canoptek additions (that don't remind you at all of the Borg). I thought Pariahs were originally cyborgs rather than fully Necrons. They did not have the "We'll be back" rule (the precursor to Reanimation Protocols) which implied there was still something alive in there (maybe just a brain in a jar). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382269-are-there-still-pariahs-in-40k/#findComment-6021898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) 5 hours ago, Karhedron said: I thought Pariahs were originally cyborgs rather than fully Necrons. They did not have the "We'll be back" rule (the precursor to Reanimation Protocols) which implied there was still something alive in there (maybe just a brain in a jar). That was definitely part of it. Humans put through biotransferance but it was an incomplete process with some vital organs still inside the new robot shell and no "we'll be back". I think that's part of why they were dropped really, why would Necrons "lower" themselves to using such tools for warfare when they already hold superior technology. For reference, this is the bit on them from the 3rd edition Codex: "Crafted from a temble symbiosis of Necron technology and human evolution, Pariahs represent the next phase of the C'tan's ideal for the galaxy. Resembling artificial beings of soulless perfection, Panahs radiate a sense of palpable menace and horror to those around them. Blotting out psychic emanations and infusing those nearby with the sense of their own mortality, Pariahs embody the ultimate horror of the Necron threat." Edited February 9 by NTaW Prot, Karhedron and terminator ultra 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382269-are-there-still-pariahs-in-40k/#findComment-6021934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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