Peachy parted ways with Painting Phase

[Kastor Krieg]

SOURCE: https://www.instagram.com/p/C3Dm8MboFJy/

And reading between the lines, it unfortunately seems it wasn't all amicable. Bolding of lines mine.

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I’ve left the Painting Phase

It is with a heavy heart that I must bid farewell to The Painting Phase. When offered the opportunity to join the channel over a year ago, I relished the chance to do something I love with a friend; spreading that love to the gaming community and hopefully helping bring more enjoyment to others in the hobby both inside and outside of the world of warhammer.

Yet, as time passed, it became increasingly evident that despite my contributions, dedication and loyalty, it would never evolve into something that I would be considered to be an equal partner in and will always remain driven by the vision and aspiration of its original creator.
 

And so, after much reflection, I have made the difficult decision to step away. It is not a choice made lightly but one based on my drive to pursue authenticity and create fun engaging content that I hope others will enjoy and will support them on their own hobby journeys.
 

As I embark on this new chapter, I carry with me the cherished memories and lessons learned from The Painting Phase and I wish the channel well. Yet, I am also excited about the prospect of charting my own course, of creating something that reflects my unique vision and values.
 

I extend my sincerest gratitude to all who have supported me on this journey thus far. Your encouragement and understanding mean the world to me. And though I part ways with The Painting Phase, I hope you will continue to accompany me on the path ahead, my new adventure and channel, PEACHY TIPS!
 

With heartfelt appreciation,
Peachy

He seems to indicate that his contributions, dedication, and loyalty were not appreciated/returned. That he wasn't an "equal partner" (isn't there something about employment with Artis Opus with them, from the comments on the Instagram post and Reddit?) and that Painting Phase is serving the vision and aspirations of its creator. Last one indicates direct conflict of vision/goals with Pat.

Sad state of affairs, I loved their trio dynamic, the vids without one of the three present were off. Peachy should be fine on his own, not sure about Painting Phase surviving this :(

Edited February 8 by Kastor Krieg

[darkhorse0607]

Sad to see this departure. I got into TPP after he joined so I cannot speak as to what the channel looks like without him, but as his personality brought a lot to the show, and he was the channel painter (also assuming that he was the one getting the former GW staff on the show) I feel like it's lost a lot.

 

Well wishes to both parties, but those are some pointed words in the bold sections

[WrathOfTheLion]

I don't if it's not amicable, it's hard to tell. Obviously the person in charge of the channel is going to have their own vision, so if Peachy's differs, then he needs to go do his own thing. So in my opinion, this was inevitable.

[Rusted Boltgun]

Peachy's responses to comments in his YouTube video indicate that they parted amicably.

 

It will be interesting to see how many of their 1300-odd Patreons TPP have retained in three months time.

 

They are yet to update anything to show that he has left.

 

[Jolemai]

We're not here to dramatise or suggest things that may or may not have happened. This is a discussion forum, not a gossip circle. 

[WrathOfTheLion]

1 minute ago, Rusted Boltgun said:

Peachy's responses to comments in his YouTube video indicate that they parted amicably.

That's how I suspect it is. It's completely reasonable for the channel to keep to its vision and not alter that, so if that's not what he wants to do, then the only reasonable option is to create his own to match what he wants to do.

[Marshal Rohr]

Already subscribed, Peachy is the man. Hopefully Pat and Geoff can keep the podcast the channel turned into going and get Peachy to come back for those. It was the bread and butter of the channel. 

[StraightSilver]

It's a shame as I enjoyed the mix of content on The Painting Phase. I suspect now it will mainly just be the podcast formats, although saying that the last couple of painting videos without Peachy (airbrushing the most recent) have been enjoyable.

 

My only feedback to TPP would be that the podcasts are just too long......

 

I feel there are so many channels that just do painting that I tend to skip most of their videos unless I'm specifically interested in that particular model or technique, whereas a channel that has a mix of painting, interviews etc I am more likely to watch regularly, if that makes sense?

[Kastor Krieg]

52 minutes ago, Jolemai said:

We're not here to dramatise or suggest things that may or may not have happened. This is a discussion forum, not a gossip circle. 

I really don't appreciate the insinuation. This forum constantly speculates about things going on in the hobby or inside Games Workshop, without harsh pushback of this kind. N&R is literally a hobby "gossip circle". Aside from official announcements, all we have here are mostly unconfirmed rumours.

I'm not gossiping here either, this is no idle speculation. I'm watching one of my favourite podcasts fall apart with a one-sided announcement from the leaving party and I'm very concerned there's some bad blood that in the future will negatively affect Peachy or Painting Phase specifically and those kinds of unique "podcasters + hobby stars/insiders" kinds of arrangements in general.

[Jolemai]

19 minutes ago, Kastor Krieg said:

I really don't appreciate the insinuation. This forum constantly speculates about things going on in the hobby or inside Games Workshop, without harsh pushback of this kind. N&R is literally a hobby "gossip circle". Aside from official announcements, all we have here are mostly unconfirmed rumours.

I'm not gossiping here either, this is no idle speculation. I'm watching one of my favourite podcasts fall apart with a one-sided announcement from the leaving party and I'm very concerned there's some bad blood that in the future will negatively affect Peachy or Painting Phase specifically and those kinds of unique "podcasters + hobby stars/insiders" kinds of arrangements in general.

 

If you have a concern about the moderation of a thread, the correct method on the B&C has always been to contact the Moderation team via PM rather than drag the thread off topic by highlighting it. Anything further on here will be removed as per our forum rules for off topic, anything via PM we will do our best to resolve.

[phandaal]

Whatever Peachy ends up doing, I hope he is successful. He has a great attitude, and it is always fun to see him collaborate with other channels. His battle report with Games Night was a lot of fun.

 

Will also be interesting to see where the Painting Phase ends up after this. Hard to imagine the channel without Peachy.

[Warden-Paints]

Sounds like a financial issue to me. It seems like Patrick is the one putting the hours in, filming, editing and managing the channels, and he probably takes the lion's share of the money. It's a big loss with Peachy leaving though, I much prefer watching Peachy and Geoff than Geoff and Patrick.

[Marshal Rohr]

I just saw his comment about maybe doing a podcast with Louise down the road, and that would be pretty rad. Lou’s stuff is a lot of fun. 

[Tonius]

Got into TPP when Peachy joined. Seems to me that he was an asset that gave "access" to a lot of the podcast "wargaming industry guests".

The trio worked perfectly fine during podcast but I'm sure Peachy will also do great on his own.

 

In the end, when you start making your job of a Youtube channel/podcast/etc. it becomes business, not only a bunch of friends talking about hobby for the fun of it.

It's no big deal that those associations live and die with the creators aspirations evoluting: it's normal.

[Burni]

The Painting Phase was just a Peachy delivery device for me. Didn’t really take to Geoff and especially not to Patrick but wish them well. I used to watch every video but had to take a break from their ramblings and haven’t watched in a while now. 

 

Will give Peachy’s new channel a go. I’m very set in my ways painting wise but I enjoy his insights and humour and I do occasionally take a painting tip on board.

[Marshal Rohr]

1 minute ago, Burni said:

The Painting Phase was just a Peachy delivery device for me. Didn’t really take to Geoff and especially not to Patrick but wish them well. I used to watch every video but had to take a break from their ramblings and haven’t watched in a while now. 

 

Will give Peachy’s new channel a go. I’m very set in my ways painting wise but I enjoy his insights and humour and I do occasionally take a painting tip on board.

Yeah, in a sea of airbrushers and source light painting having a steady stream of normal brush painting pro tips is invaluable. 

[Kastor Krieg]

Ironically, last video Peach recorded with Painting Phase is a... painting guide.
 

 

[Redcomet]

I wish Peachy the best of luck. His contributions and connections made TPP what they are today.

 

Looking forward to his future content and his future cooperations with Sugs

[Kastor Krieg]

Yeah, a Peachy + Suggs podcast would be awesome.

[01RTB01]

3 hours ago, Burni said:

The Painting Phase was just a Peachy delivery device for me. Didn’t really take to Geoff and especially not to Patrick but wish them well. I used to watch every video but had to take a break from their ramblings and haven’t watched in a while now. 

 

Will give Peachy’s new channel a go. I’m very set in my ways painting wise but I enjoy his insights and humour and I do occasionally take a painting tip on board.

Aye, seeing the interviews with the likes of Robin Dews, Gary Morely etc I think would be down to Peachy - the scouse chap when they interviewed Dews + the guy at Warlord games just didn't come across very well at all.

 

Peachy will be grand, wish them all luck!

[MithrilForge]

Subbed already, Go Peachy!! reach that full potential !!! 

 

M 

[Wispy]

Peachy was the talent there. and now its gone.

[WrathOfTheLion]

13 minutes ago, Wispy said:

Peachy was the talent there. and now its gone.

I definitely agree, I just personally think it wasn't wrong for them to tell him no on changing their channel. The only reason even such an ask was okay was that he was friends with them. Were they unacquainted beforehand, any ask would reasonably be put down with prejudice. Regardless of how successful they'd be, they have every right to determine their own direction. That doesn't mean I don't think Peachy's contributions mattered, those are just points on what is right and wrong, not what makes them relevant or not.

[pawl]

8 minutes ago, WrathOfTheLion said:

I definitely agree, I just personally think it wasn't wrong for them to tell him no on changing their channel. The only reason even such an ask was okay was that he was friends with them. Were they unacquainted beforehand, any ask would reasonably be put down with prejudice. Regardless of how successful they'd be, they have every right to determine their own direction. That doesn't mean I don't think Peachy's contributions mattered, those are just points on what is right and wrong, not what makes them relevant or not.

I would possibly argue that it depends on the agreement made when he came in. If it was a case of "come and join my party" then I agree, but if it was intended as more of a "come and help us all be better together" then I would argue that his opinion and input should have been held in equal regard.

[WrathOfTheLion]

1 hour ago, pawl said:

I would possibly argue that it depends on the agreement made when he came in. If it was a case of "come and join my party" then I agree, but if it was intended as more of a "come and help us all be better together" then I would argue that his opinion and input should have been held in equal regard.

I definitely agree that's how it'd idealistically be, but not how it works out in real life. My point basically is just that this was inevitable, just because of how human interactions work.

 

That doesn't mean I think it's good for the channel, or the right decision as I have no opinion on the matter, only that it was how things would normally work out when someone with a strong vision of what they want to do joins a group with a differing vision. The group is under no obligation to oblige a change, even if the right way to go, so such a person will inevitably move to something that they can drive themselves.

Edited February 9 by WrathOfTheLion