Galron Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) I was motivated by MG's use of a scion list and made a variation of it and am still trying to find the answer to the same problem he had. Here is my list as of a game today and a brief Batt rep. Then my plans and ideas. 2 Cadian Castellans powerfist plasma pistol 3 Tempestus Command squads with melta, plasma, volleygun and medic. command rod+power fist Commisar 6 Scion Storm Trooper Squads- 2 plasma, 2 melta, sgt with power weapon + plasma and a vox guy 3 Kasrkin 2 plasma, 2 melta, vox, sgt with power weapon and plasma Basilisk Vendetta 4 Chimeras 2xheavy bolters, heavy stubber My opponent was a Blood Angel player experimenting with some new stuff in his list. Dante Sanguinor Priest dude with jump pack Lemartes 10 assault intercessors 10 Death Company 2x5 Infiltrators Combi-LT Calidus Assassin Techmarine walked behind... Gladiator Redemptor Ballistis Redemptor Brutalis We played a simple scenario short end to short end with three objectives in no mans land and one in friendly. The random rules were 2 random rules one was Rerolls cost 2cp and draw three strat cards each round. Its been awhile since I played so I made a few minor secondary mistakes amounting to 10 VP but I passed up on enough cards I could have easily achieved equivalent results so it doesnt matter too much. I got turn one and scouted my foot Kasrkin forward close to the center objective and moved onto it on my turn. he had infitrators just on the other side of terrain in the center and the deathcompany lined up inside his deployment zone just behind them. His Dante blob + priest were in a building on my right on the edge of his deployment zone. His dreds were spread out and his Gladiator was in the far right corner. The other infiltrator squad was on his center home objective in the back. Turn 1: Kasrkin move forward onto the center objective. Two kasrkin chimeras with castellins(unattached) move forward, both unload their squads with left squad jumping on to the left objective. Open up with center kasrkin on infiltrators and kill 4. I forget who but between the to other squads and the chimeras, the last infiltrator dies as well as two or three death company. Also shot the LT I didnt know was even there until I moved a kasrkin squad close enough to shoot him and did 4 wounds. Bassie bombs Dante's squad and does a wound but did its job and has slowed the blob. HIS T1: He moves most stuff forward. Dantes blob with its movement gimped barely is able to get a dude on the right objective. Shooting kills a chimera but not his oath of moment chimera. He wipes out the left side kasrkin and the center squad with death company. MY T2: Moved my Castellan onto the left objective and he moved his LT back for some reason. I deployed my reserve squad of storm troopers in the rear chimera forward to take the center objective under fire. My dead kasrkin squad comes back as reserves and comes in near the LT and finishes him off. One big blob of storm troops and the squad from the destroyed chimera drop in and move to threaten the Dante blob. Vendetta comes on the board. Another blob drops in his back left corner where i discovered that meltaguns do jack squat to dreadnoughts. I brought a regular squad of storm troopers to help with the death company in the middle. He dropped the Sanguinor in the center for rapid ingress. Shooting wipes the deathcompany + Lemartes, the left side shooters clear off all of the assault intercessors, leaving just the priest and Dante standing alone. Bassie does no damage to the other infiltrator squad. Vendetta does 8 damage to the gladiator. HIS T2: Sangy bounces forward to take on one of the two storm trooper squads that just took out the death company. Dante jumps towards the blob on the right. Priest heads towards but not to the center while sticking to the objective on the right. Brutalis moves forward. His shooting does 8 to the Vendetta. He wipes the back left corner blob with the redemptor. Dante wipes the actual scion squad from the blob. Sangy kills all but two guys in a storm trooper squad who then pass battleshock. Brutalis kills the chimera in close combat. My T3: I move out of combat with Dante and Sangy. A squad lands in the middle which is currently free. A blob lands near them to take the Ballistus under fire(Guess what they actually do?) Vendetta moves forward to shoot the Ballistus. Predictably the blob fails to wound the Ballistus and the Vendetta does 3 damage. The center squad does kill the priest. The other stormy squad kills the sanginor. The Bassie kills all but one infiltrator. The IG chimera SS squad kills the brutalis which had been reduced to only a few wounds thanks to mass hunter killer missiles on T1. HIS T3: Dante races to the center ignoring all the dudes on the right and gets a charge off on the center squad killing 7 of them who fail battle shock. The two dreads concentrate fire on the off center blob and kill all but 6 dudes. The redemptor fails his charge, Ballistus doesnt and kills a dude and my medic does a wound with his rifle butt stock while everyone else fails. My T4: I bring in another reinforcement squad in the middle to back up the other squad. Unit that blew away the sanginor then proceeds to kill Dante. Squad in combat with Ballistus falls back and the kasrkin squad over there moves forward. Apparently they remembered to flick the power on button on their meltas and manage to kill the Ballistus. I forget what the Bassie does. The back right storm trooper squad had move moved forward to try and help with Dante find themselves without their original target so then point their guns at the assassin sitting on the right objective who is now conveniently within 12". Both meltas hit and the assassin goes down. HIS T5: His redemptor finds a firing lane and kills my Cadian Castellin holding the left objective. The Gladiator and the techmarine move up to the right objective and gladiator kills the command squad in the back right. My T5: I bring on another storm trooper squad on the right near that objective and just out of 9" from the gladiator and techmarine. The Storm trooper squad that killed the assassin moves onto the right objective and within close range of the gladius. That squad and the center squad kill the gladiator. The newly arrived squad kills the techmarine. The lone command squad with I think a sergeant from the blob kills the last infiltrator with a plasma pistol shot. My left kasrkin squad moves up does some damage to the redemptor(5 wounds left now) and charges it to tie it up. HIS T5: He concedes. So I forgot you can only score 15 points on a single secondary. I scored 25. but with how many secondaries were were going through I passed over plenty I could have used for that 10 so its not that big a deal. Armor- the biggest issue I dealt with. Melta guns just do not cut it unless you get lucky. I found it pretty refreshing though not really caring if my units died or not since I knew I could bring them right back again. Having the kasrkin first wave was pretty fun and effective. I am usually pretty cautious on T1 with moving forward against a close combat army. This time they were bait. So I am going to drop the vendatta and commissar. I am thinking 4 scout sentinels with lascannons and HKs and two cyclops demo vehicles, just in case the 4 corner secondary pops up. I also need to figure out a way to get my turns done faster. Granted we were both trying out our armies but the game took roughly 4 hours due to all the moving parts. Edit: Could also consider dropping the two castellans for an Elysian Drop Sentinel with multi-melta just because or a 5th scout sentinel and a 3rd cyclops. That would reduce the VP I am giving my opponent for assassinate and let me bring a rarely used awesome looking sentinel variant onto the table So how do my substitutions sound? Seem more survivable than a simple over priced vendetta. Still mad they removed my favorite Annihilator Leman Russ tanks. Edited March 26 by Galron MedicMike0708 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382581-storm-trooper-assault-force-list-and-performance/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
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