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When I have ordered from the the GW site to be delivered to my local GW store (UK) it arrives in a nice big resealable bag you can then use for mini storage at home :biggrin:

 

Most recent pick up was yesterday so hope this continues!

 

Obvs not the same as just walking in at buying off the shelf but I do my best to carry a 'bag for infinity' (my workmates mocked me when I had these before the bag-for-life rules came in) at all times.

2 hours ago, Firedrake Cordova said:

It's probably worth adding some context for those not based in Britain.

 

Some time ago, the government initiated a scheme where shops larger than a certain size could not provide plastic carriers bags free of charge - they had to make a charge for them*. The aim was to reduce the amount of single-use plastic being consumed, by encouraging people to re-use the bags, which appears to have been successful.

 

*Many shops donate the money to charity.

 

I am going to expand it to whole European Union, as it is in fact coming from a EU Directive. Applciable is UK as it has been issued years before Brexit. And remain in place as noones is interested into getting rid of it.

It applies to all retails now, after a progresive coming into force based on type of buisness and size. It lead in some cases to the reappearence of paper bags and in most cases to the addition of reusable bags. Interesting fact: some jube/fiber bags have been reported to have a LCA worst than the equivalent plastic bag amount used over the same period...

The plastic bags are now sold and charged on the bill. Should they not appear on it does not prevent the retail to pay a specific tax on these bags they bought... There is no small money. Other interesting fact is thhat the taz is aplied to the retailer, not o the bag manufacturer. Always better piss off 10 end users than one bigger manufacturer... 

Let me get this straight.

 

A business that almost exclusively sells plastic products that, by their very nature, are extremely wasteful, is taking away a carrier bags to "protect the environment"?

 

Has anyone assembled a unit of Intercessors? About 40% of the plastic in the box is redundancy and waste. Paper bags also exist. It's all a bit ludicrous. 

3 hours ago, Firedrake Cordova said:

It's probably worth adding some context for those not based in Britain...

 

Agreed, though it's not exactly a uniquely British thing. (Including a fair bit of the USA.)

 

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11 minutes ago, LSM said:

 

Agreed, though it's not exactly a uniquely British thing. (Including a fair bit of the USA.)

 

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That map doesn't have a key. What do the colours mean?

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Take a way the bag sure, but by all means ship it in so much excess packaging, lol.  This is the Paper Straw wrapped in plastic going in a single use plastic cup with a plastic  lid event. Damn Hippies, lol. For every bag you take away I will take 10 extra from Walmart.

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12 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said:

 

That map doesn't have a key. What do the colours mean?

 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_bag_ban

(If you hover over an image or hold your thumb on it, it should give you a link URL unless someone's uploaded the image to the B&C,, in which case it gives you a B&C URL)

 

 

They should go back to Lead minis :biggrin:

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2 hours ago, Captain Idaho said:

I like plastic bags, they're useful in my home life.

 

We use them as mini trash bags and for picking up after the dog. Although here in Texas we have no problem getting a hold of as many little plastic bags as we want. :laugh:

 

Edit: yep, look at that beautiful shade of grey over the Free People's Independent Republic of Texas. :laugh:

 

Honestly cannot remember the last time I got a bag from a GW store though. Maybe 5 years ago? Hard to miss something you never used.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, phandaal said:

Honestly cannot remember the last time I got a bag from a GW store though. Maybe 5 years ago? Hard to miss something you never used.

 

Fellow Texan here with an important message: those GW bags are really nice. But, pretty durable. I hang them on my gunsafe and use them as a disposal for my office

If they were transitioning from plastic to paper, or reusable strong bags ala supermarkets I'd be fine with it, as is it seems like just another case of a convenience being banned "for our own good".


(I could also go on a very, very long spiel about how the UK could either undergo a second industrial revolution or turn 100% green and it wouldn't make the slightest difference to the environment whilst India, China et al are still producing 99% of the world's pollution, but I'm not going to.)

 

Point being this isn't going to accomplish diddly squat.

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This seems like environmentalism virtue signaling (by GW and B&C members) at worst, or pure government regulatory compliance at best from GW.  They’ll get “points” for progressively “protecting the environment” when we aren’t using plastic bottles for paints that contain acrylics, plastics including all off-casts they manufacture and use are actually recyclable, they don’t sell synthetic brushes and manufacture fully sustainable/non-destructive natural brushes, they don’t sell plastic clam packs or single minis in boxes that have extra single use plastic support beyond sprues in them, and their shipping doesn’t involve the use of hundreds of meters of plastic wrap, along with all their other wastes.  Otherwise this is just a joke and has nothing to do with the hobby or B&C discussion thereof.

 

Also, if you weren’t reusing the GW plastic bags, that was already wasteful - they were a LOT better than the things you get from supermarkets and other big chain stores.  Heck, I’ve got two sitting here in my office that I have used to hold other things for years since I last bought something directly in a GW store, and they still look good.  This is opposed to the plastic bags we reuse as small garbage bags in our little trashcans from the grocer’s, which you can only reuse one time and have to risk tearing if you overload them.

 

Let’s not strain ourselves too much with the “environmentalism” back-patting going on - this isn’t even a basic first step compared to what would really need to be done.

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I did like to grab a bag to put inside my backpack, mostly because im usually only buying paints and im paranoid :D Of course these days ill usually have a pram i can just stuff things in so its not really a problem.

Paper bags are a nice idea but based on the Primark ones they are barely fit for purpose, ripping at the drop of a hat, especially in the rain :/ 

I personally loved strutting around town with my 40k branded plastic bag in hand after a splurge at GW, and my beautiful wife on my other arm.

 

Can GW really afford to lose a walking advert like myself?

 

I am half joking, of course.

Silly and pointless.  This will have been done to satisfy some directors sustainability commitments or somesuch nonsense.  

 

They could have at least just switched to paper bags.

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4 hours ago, TheArtilleryman said:

The difference is that most of the plastic is not “single-use.” You keep them for years on display in your house or whatever, and if you don’t want them anymore you tend to sell them on. Miniatures rarely go in the garbage.

 

Exception here is the empty sprues, but they can just go in with the regular plastic recycling.

 

I mean the utility is completely different though. The bag supports commerce and helps people transit goods, like an old lady buying groceries and getting them home. That single use serves a "useful" purpose. The plastic soldiers sitting in a display in a house are kind of worthless (ie "not useful"), specially to people not in the hobby. Just ask my wife. I'm all for alternatives to plastic, I just think it's a silly take from GW specifically with all the plastic they use and waste. It's like a coal miner wanting more green energy haha.

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+++Mod voice enabled+++

 

Okay, there is some legitimate discussion to be had about the announcement around plastic bags and what it means for your physical shopping habits. It's also fine to provide factual information about the legalities that GW stores operate under which may limit the provision of single-use plastic bags.

 

However, a lot of this was veering into real-world political discussion about people's views on environmental policies and their validity, etc. and the discussion was degenerating into argument as a consequence.

 

We have a 'no real-world politics' rule for a reason. I'm leaving the thread open for now, just in case there is anything useful that can be added to the discussion. However, anything more about real-world politics or personal attacks and it will be closed.

 

+++Mod voice disengaged+++

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