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I don't play LI but I may pick up the book for the lore/art.

 

Hopefully those models will arrive for HH itself at some point.

 

It would be nice if GW remembered that Space Marines exist and released something that wasn't a resin character.

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Will pick up the book for sure. Bit disappointed that it seems the meat of the new wave are just weapon options/variants for existing units. Had high hopes for some space marine superheavies. 

Edited by Matcap86
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Definitely like this release !

Won't be buying any of it though. 

Still waiting for Legions Infantry and Support boxes to become re-available in the Antipodes. 

 

The Variant Leman Russ tanks are cool, might be a little late for me, I already have heaps of armour. 

Those new variants won't have anything better than Vanquisher cannon by the looks but might be nice for themed forces.

 

The SM ones look promising, agree with Brother Matcap we need super heavies asap. 

 

Edited by Interrogator Stobz
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Lolz, just read the article. 

They need to proof read the first and third paragraphs: Relive or relieve? And Iron Hands???

Lolz

Edited by Interrogator Stobz
1 hour ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

I don't play LI but I may pick up the book for the lore/art.

It might be worth waiting for a preview for these things, to see if the new book contains either, as the new game has been extremely disappointing on both fronts so far. Unless you regard photoshopped minis as 'art'!

Tallarn, the planet so virus bombed that throughout the battle, anyone who went outside a tank or bunker was immediately on the clock with a very short time frame to survive. 

 

In Siren, the imperial fist marshal reflects that solar aux void sealed armour might give them a few minutes; one of them dies to the toxic air two steps out of the transport. Terminators die as soon as their armour is cracked. The marshal gave his armour 20 seconds more of integrity before it just rotted, after being outside for maybe a couple of minutes.

 

This is the planet they decided to use, and i guarantee by their use of infantry on the cover art, that it won't be reflected in the lore at all lol

Excited for the Sabre’s and good to see some artillery for the Legions.

 

Watching the video and reading the article, it does sound like that’s all that’s coming in this book, which is slightly disappointing if true. Happy to see everything they’ve shown but it just doesn’t seem that much, particularly as a good chunk of it is weapon variants of existing kits. Was really hoping for some Legion superheavies at least. 

From a number of kits perspective we currently have 6 kits coming for this expansion (the 4 revealed yesterday and the Terminates and Shadowsword box)
The Great Slaughter meanwhile had 9 kits plus the rules for the Cyclops that is in the same box as the corebook SA support stuff

If we are instead using the number of detachments we have 3 from the Shadowsword kit as we already saw the Shadowsword card in the video and it doesn't have the other two guns on it like the Baneblade/Hellhammer combo so all three versions are likely getting their own detachment.
The Termites and Sabres should be one each but again the cards for the Demolisher LR and Sicaran Arcus only have their guns and not the other versions on it so should be another 4 detachments from these two kits. No card for the Exterminator/Annihilator LR kit but likely the same so another 2 detachments.
So in total we currently have 11 detachments from the 6 upcoming kits. Meanwhile TGS had 16 detachments (not counting the Palisades and counting the Cyclops)

So we currently both have less kits and less detachments for this book which makes it possible there is going to be about two more kits for this book that haven't been revealed yet.

 

Yes it sounds like this is all there is but there is a chance for more.

And personally while the Sicaran and LR versions are nice they are still just alternate weapon versions for already existing kits, especially the 2 additional LR kits.
So just three unique new kits for an expansion book just kinda feels too low to me

Am I right in understanding that at this point if I want a single legion force with infantry in land raiders and a couple of sabre tanks, I'll need 3 books to be able to play it? 

Can you get away with just the reference card sets? Though being as The Great Slaughter ones disappeared immediately thats not a great option anyway. 

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6 hours ago, SkimaskMohawk said:

Tallarn, the planet so virus bombed that throughout the battle, anyone who went outside a tank or bunker was immediately on the clock with a very short time frame to survive. 

 

In Siren, the imperial fist marshal reflects that solar aux void sealed armour might give them a few minutes; one of them dies to the toxic air two steps out of the transport. Terminators die as soon as their armour is cracked. The marshal gave his armour 20 seconds more of integrity before it just rotted, after being outside for maybe a couple of minutes.

 

This is the planet they decided to use, and i guarantee by their use of infantry on the cover art, that it won't be reflected in the lore at all lol

 

To be fair they said the book would focus on the opening stages of the battle for Tallarn. The IW didn't start by virusbombing the crap out of it iirc

 

5 minutes ago, Interrogator Stobz said:

Battlescribe is your friend until we get the inevitable compendiums in a few years.

 

@Doobles57I'd advise https://legionbuilder.app/ makes the whole thing a lot easier. 

Edited by Matcap86
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3 hours ago, Matcap86 said:

 

To be fair they said the book would focus on the opening stages of the battle for Tallarn. The IW didn't start by virusbombing the crap out of it iirc

 

They did, yes :)

 

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The first shot of the Battle of Tallarn was fired in space. It was fired from the edge of the planet's monitor range from the heavy cruiser Hammerfall. The nova shell hit the northern polar orbital defence station while its systems were still asleep. The station vanished. Harsh blue light lit the northern face of Tallarn, and for an instant it burned brighter than the sun. A fraction of a second later the shell's secondary payload activated. The graviton charge sucked in the expanding sphere of plasma and dragged the station's weapon platforms into its crushing embrace. Curtains of aurora light danced across the northern plains of Kadir as the graviton detonation warred with Tallarn’s magnetic fields. In the polar capital of Onnas people crowded the upper surfaces of the city dome to see the night sky dance.  The orbital defence network began to wake. Auspex scans cut into space, looking for targets. They did not have to look hard. Hundreds of ships enclosed Tallarn in a shrinking sphere.
  The planet's defences began to fire. Torpedoes slid from launch tubes. Turbo-lasers fired, running their capacitors dry as they drew networks of light across the darkness. Some shots found their mark.
  Three torpedoes caught the macro-transporter Kraetos and burrowed through three deck layers before detonating. Turbo-lasers caught the Retribution of Thunder as its void shields hit a ring of orbital debris. The beams of energy sliced the ship's bridge from its bulk and left it drifting. But the resistance could not last
  Two more nova shells fired from the Iron Warriors fleet destroyed the equatorial and southern polar stations. Squadrons of destroyers slipped into high orbit and launched spreads of torpedoes. The warheads slid onto their own orbital arcs to hit the remaining weapon platforms. New constellations blinked into existence in the skies of Tallarn.
  There were few ships to defend the system. A squadron of defence monitors, their responses dulled by years of inactivity, tried to intercept some of the enemy ships. They died for their effort. Las-fire cut their hulls into chunks, and then macro-cannon salvos hammered the remains into scraps of metal and burning gas.
  One ship alone tried to run. The Light of Inwit was an Imperial Fists strike vessel. She paused for a second as her communications officer tried to raise Marshal Lycus on Tallarn's surface. The only reply was static. Her shipmaster did not hesitate. Word of the attack needed to reach others. The Light of Inwit turned its prow to the blackness of the system edge and burned its engines until they were white with heat.
  She nearly made it. Iron Warriors gunships accelerated in her wake, reaching after her with stitched lines of explosions. Clouds of debris and energy buffeted her void shields, but she kept running. More Iron Warriors ships slipped from behind Tallarn's outer moon. They had been waiting to see if any of the defenders would run, and they were ready. Ten destroyers launched a net of torpedoes. The Light of Inwit twisted, spiralling as it tried to weave a course through the web of warheads. A single torpedo clipped its upper hull and exploded. The vessel veered, its hull glowing with pinprick fires. The second torpedo hit it amidships and tore a chunk of hot metal from its flank. The Iron Warriors moved in with lazy confidece. Spinning without control, the Light of Inwit fired a single salvo as if shouting defiance. The Iron Warriors guns opened it from prow to stern.  In the skies above Tallarn, heavy IV Legion ships settled into orbit. Grand cruisers, battle-barges, siege barques and weapon haulers plated the heavens in dull iron. Bombardment cannons slid from their bellies and rotated towards the surface. A few turned so that their prow torpedo tubes faced down towards the target zones, hanging like daggers.
  On the ground, Tallarn's defences began to shout defiance at the sky. Laser platforms and missile silos threw ship-cracking payloads towards the orbiting vessels. The Iron Warriors fired in return.
  For those looking up from the night side of Tallarn the bombardment appeared as a shower of falling stars. In the clear skies of the south, the falling warheads winked like golden coins scattered in the sun. Hundreds of bombs and torpedoes fell. After their initial launch they needed no propulsion; Tallarn's own gravity drew them to it. The warheads broke apart as they descended. They shed their ceramite armour first, sloughing it off like a cocoon to reveal polished metal beneath. The next layer simply fragmented seconds later, dumping the first dose of viral agents into the upper air currents. Beneath this, hundreds of winged bomblets nestled like insect young clinging to their mother. This layer released three hundred metres above the ground. The bomblets began to tumble like seeds, spraying atomised viral agents as they spun.

Finally, the core of each warhead hit the ground like a bullet, punching through rock and soil before exploding. Clouds of earth and debris burst into the air. Beneath the earth, the virus began to spread through the soil and into the water table.
  The first casualties were those closest to the ground bursts. In the Crescent City a warhead hit one of the main arterial routes through the outskirts. The road was dense with people and vehicles, scrambling to reach the entrances of the shelters beneath the city. As the explosive cloud settled people began to fall, blood running from their eyes. Within seconds the flesh of those within the initial blast had begun to fall from their bones in blood-slimed ribbons.
  Those that were further away lived a little longer. The mist of viral agents in the air mixed with the wind as it blew across Tallarn. People began to fall. They fell trying to get to shelter. They fell in their homes as the killing air seeped through the cracks in the walls. They fell looking up at the sky. Outside of the cities the virus scythed through the lush agri-belts and jungle regions. Forests became tatters of toxic slime hanging from the dead skeletons of trees. The slick bones of cattle floated in pools of black filth. Flocks of birds fell from the air in a rain of putrefying flesh and feathers.
  Within five minutes of the first impacts the casualties in the major cities numbered almost a million. Within ten minutes they were over ten million. Within an hour the living population on the surface of Tallarn was negligible.
  A few survived in isolated places far away from the impact sites. They would die in the following days. Within three days there was no measurable life on the surface.

 

But equally the concentration of the poisons might vary across the world 

Edited by Petitioner's City
16 hours ago, Interrogator Stobz said:

Lolz, just read the article. 

They need to proof read the first and third paragraphs: Relive or relieve? And Iron Hands???

Lolz

Expecting a lot from the Waarhammer Community team in a rush...

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4 hours ago, Matcap86 said:

To be fair they said the book would focus on the opening stages of the battle for Tallarn. The IW didn't start by virusbombing the crap out of it iirc

 

No, they totally opened up with the virus bombs after blasting the system monitor craft and defence platforms.

 

Spoiler
Quote

The first shot of the Battle of Tallarn was fired in space. It was fired from the edge of the planet’s monitor range from the heavy cruiser Hammerfall. The nova shell hit the northern polar orbital defence station while its systems were still asleep. The station vanished. Harsh blue light lit the northern face of Tallarn, and for an instant it burned brighter than the sun. A fraction of a second later the shell’s secondary payload activated. The graviton charge sucked in the expanding sphere of plasma and dragged the station’s weapon platforms into its crushing embrace. Curtains of aurora light danced across the northern plains of Kadir as the graviton detonation warred with Tallarn’s magnetic fields. In the polar capital of Ormas people crowded the upper surfaces of the city dome to see the night sky dance.

   The orbital defence network began to wake. Auspex scans cut into space, looking for targets. They did not have to look hard. Hundreds of ships enclosed Tallarn in a shrinking sphere.

   The planet’s defences began to fire. Torpedoes slid from launch tubes. Turbo-lasers fired, running their capacitors dry as they drew networks of light across the darkness. Some shots found their mark.

   Three torpedoes caught the macro-transporter Kraetos and burrowed through three deck layers before detonating. Turbo-lasers caught the ­Retribution of Thunder as its void shields hit a ring of orbital debris. The beams of energy sliced the ship’s bridge from its bulk and left it drifting. But the resistance could not last.

   Two more nova shells fired from the Iron Warriors fleet destroyed the equatorial and southern polar stations. Squadrons of destroyers slipped into high orbit and launched spreads of torpedoes. The warheads slid onto their own orbital arcs to hit the remaining weapon platforms. New constellations blinked into existence in the skies of Tallarn.

   There were few ships to defend the system. A squadron of defence monitors, their responses dulled by years of inactivity, tried to intercept some of the enemy ships. They died for their effort. Las-fire cut their hulls into chunks, and then macro-cannon salvos hammered the remains into scraps of metal and burning gas.

One ship alone tried to run. The Light of Inwit was an Imperial Fists strike vessel. She paused for a second as her communications officer tried to raise Marshal Lycus on Tallarn’s surface. The only reply was static. Her shipmaster did not hesitate. Word of the attack needed to reach others. The Light of Inwit turned its prow to the blackness of the system edge and burned its engines until they were white with heat.

   She nearly made it. Iron Warriors gunships accelerated in her wake, reaching after her with stitched lines of explosions. Clouds of debris and energy buffeted her void shields, but she kept running. More Iron Warriors ships slipped from behind Tallarn’s outer moon. They had been waiting to see if any of the defenders would run, and they were ready. Ten destroyers launched a net of torpedoes. The Light of Inwit twisted, spiralling as it tried to weave a course through the web of warheads. A single torpedo clipped its upper hull and exploded. The vessel veered, its hull glowing with pinprick fires. The second torpedo hit it amidships and tore a chunk of hot metal from its flank. The Iron Warriors moved in with lazy confidence. Spinning without control, the Light of Inwit fired a single salvo as if shouting defiance. The Iron Warriors guns opened it from prow to stern.

   In the skies above Tallarn, heavy IV Legion ships settled into orbit. Grand cruisers, battle-barges, siege barques and weapon haulers plated the heavens in dull iron. Bombardment cannons slid from their bellies and rotated towards the surface. A few turned so that their prow torpedo tubes faced down towards the target zones, hanging like daggers.

   On the ground, Tallarn’s defences began to shout defiance at the sky. Laser platforms and missile silos threw ship-cracking payloads towards the orbiting vessels. The Iron Warriors fired in return.

   For those looking up from the night side of Tallarn the bombardment appeared as a shower of falling stars. In the clear skies of the south, the falling warheads winked like golden coins scattered in the sun. Hundreds of bombs and torpedoes fell. After their initial launch they needed no propulsion; Tallarn’s own gravity drew them to it. The warheads broke apart as they descended. They shed their ceramite armour first, sloughing it off like a cocoon to reveal polished metal beneath. The next layer simply fragmented seconds later, dumping the first dose of viral agents into the upper air currents. Beneath this, hundreds of winged bomblets nestled like insect young clinging to their mother. This layer released three hundred metres above the ground. The bomblets began to tumble like seeds, spraying atomised viral agents as they spun.

   Finally, the core of each warhead hit the ground like a bullet, punching through rock and soil before exploding. Clouds of earth and debris burst into the air. Beneath the earth, the virus began to spread through the soil and into the water table.

   The first casualties were those closest to the ground bursts. In the Crescent City, a warhead hit one of the main arterial routes through the outskirts. The road was dense with people and vehicles, scrambling to reach the entrances of the shelters beneath the city. As the explosive cloud settled people began to fall, blood running from their eyes. Within seconds the flesh of those within the initial blast had begun to fall from their bones in blood-slimed ribbons.

   Those that were further away lived a little longer. The mist of viral agents in the air mixed with the wind as it blew across Tallarn. People began to fall. They fell trying to get to shelter. They fell in their homes as the killing air seeped through the cracks in the walls. They fell looking up at the sky. Outside the cities the virus scythed through the lush agri-belts and jungle regions. Forests became tatters of toxic slime hanging from the dead skeletons of trees. The slick bones of cattle floated in pools of black filth. Flocks of birds fell from the air in a rain of putrefying flesh and feathers.

   Within five minutes of the first impacts the casualties in the major cities numbered almost a million. Within ten minutes they were over ten million. Within an hour the living population on the surface of Tallarn was negligible.

   A few survived in isolated places far away from the impact sites. They would die in the following days. Within three days there was no measurable life on the surface.

   The last person to die in the attack was a soldier attached to one of the northern tundra bases. His name was Rahim. Caught in an armoured vehicle far from the cities, he drove in search of other military personnel until his fuel ran out. His air supply failed two hours later.

   Sealed in shelters far beneath the ground, the survivors of Tallarn waited. Many were soldiers, the remnants of regiments never shipped out to the Great Crusade. Beside them were a lucky few, civilians who had known of the shelters and reached them in time. Sipping recycled water, breathing processed air, they listened as silence settled across the surface of Tallarn like a shroud.

 

 

That's from pages 34-38 of Tallarn. The earlier pages are just going over some day-to-day activities of various people stuck on Tallarn; all is peaceful until the iron warriors appear and start dropping the virus bombs. 

 

Edit: ninjad by petitioner while I was out getting groceries lol.

Edited by SkimaskMohawk

Yay more tiny tanks. Always makes me happy.

 

Still, I want a Falchion. And a Mastadon!

 

Big Marine super heavy killer and transport!

51 minutes ago, Marshal Rohr said:

Glad the absolute chads at Specialist Games are finally addressing the issue with Tallarn being totally unsurvivable for the length of the conflict but Istvaan being survivable after a few days. 

 

The two virus bombardments are very different in delivery, makes sense they would be different life eater viruses with different effects too. Like, i dont think the Tallarn version ignited a worldwide firestorm?

 

I did wonder about the atmosphere when they previewed termites, they seem worthless on Tallarn?

 

8 hours ago, Doobles57 said:

Am I right in understanding that at this point if I want a single legion force with infantry in land raiders and a couple of sabre tanks, I'll need 3 books to be able to play it? 

Can you get away with just the reference card sets? Though being as The Great Slaughter ones disappeared immediately thats not a great option anyway. 

 

I would say you just need the rulebook and use the Legion Builder app, which should get updated as soon as the book comes out

https://legionbuilder.app/

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