Warhammer 40,000: Mechanicus II

[TheVoidDragon]

17 minutes ago, Minsc said:

It's a mixture for sure in the Total Warhammer-universe.
Brian Blessed's Gotrik (he did an amazing job btw) doesn't sound scottish, but some of the dwarven units do sound *very* scottish. 

 

Which ones in particular? It's been a while since i've played but can't remember any like that

 

25 minutes ago, Tastyfish said:

 

I think the 'Scottish' dwarfs come from largely US folks and other readers not recognising Yorkshire and other Northern English accents. Seeing 'aye', a fondness for booze, enmity towards some folk with fine RP accents and a certain tightfistedness and assuming Scottish, whilst ignoring the mining heritage, similar enmity towards those soft southern Jessies and that the drink of choice is a real ale rather than a whisky (not to mention an appreciation for how things used to be compared to now, though the jokes about that were better in my day). Northern English also has far more elements of Old Norse than Gaelic does in it's slang, which would be your nod towards the old myths.

 

But then vaguely Scandi Votan sort of works in 40K,  along the same lines. You can clearly understand them but it's also a little bit familiar and recognisably foreign at the same time. Usually encountered around resource extraction...

 

 

 

The original Votann announcement video and the one they did for Killteam also seemed to have a similar sort of accent, so i guess it's just what GW has decided to go for with them. It's an interesting choice, and i guess it does work with the Norse theming they have.

[Minsc]

1 hour ago, TheVoidDragon said:

 

Which ones in particular? It's been a while since i've played but can't remember any like that

 
It's been a while since I played as well, but on top of my head, I'd say Malakai Makaisson:

 

 

[Commissar Greif]

6 hours ago, TheVoidDragon said:

Anything know what sort of accents the Votann have here? It's not the usual Dwarf Scottish/Yorkshire accents most settings seem to go for, but I can't quite tell what

Kin have a sort of pseudo-Scandinavian accent. They've been doing that voice since their reveal trailer back in 202o.

[Magos Takatus]

I remember World of Warcraft leaning heavily into the Scottish accents for their Dwarf race, which probably predates WoW into the earlier Warcraft RTS games. Was there any instances before then?

 

Back to the trailer, last time I watched it I noticed Electro Priest are included. Most of the infantry seem to have made is so far. It seems the Skatros is so incredibly sneaky on his stilts that I haven't spotted him yet. 

[Carach]

12 hours ago, Minsc said:

As someone nordic, I would say it sounds like non-nordic people trying to make a nordic accent.

I'm so used to the "scottish" accent for dwarfs in most forms of media these days, that now when I think about it, the scottish accent doesn't really make much sense.
I have no idea where the idea of scottish dwarves originated from, but from a folklore-perspective, dwarfs originate primarily from norse (and as such, to some extent germanic) mythology and not celtic mythology, so them having nordic accents makes  ... more sense?

About as much sense has T'au having japanese accents and Orcs sounding like brittish football hooligans anyway. :P
(Also, this isn't really a complaint, I personally love the scottish accent.)
 

 

"Scottish is only one away from English!"

 

But I would wager anyone that thought like that, hasn't heard the proper Glaswegian accents - I would take Nordic English over trying to decode what a proper Glaswegian is trying to say to me, and I say that as an Englishman.

 

 

[Halandaar]

Votann are a nice surprise here, but to be fair I was going to get it anyway based on how much I enjoyed the first one.

[TheVoidDragon]

10 hours ago, Minsc said:

 
It's been a while since I played as well, but on top of my head, I'd say Malakai Makaisson:

 

 

 

Oh yeah, that is definitely scottish.....very clearly so, as he's even using scottish slang!

 

10 hours ago, Commissar Greif said:

Kin have a sort of pseudo-Scandinavian accent. They've been doing that voice since their reveal trailer back in 202o.

 

Do their accents here still fit with that? I remember at the time no one seemed entirely sure what they were going for really.

 

 

 

 

[Minsc]

5 hours ago, Magos Takatus said:

I remember World of Warcraft leaning heavily into the Scottish accents for their Dwarf race, which probably predates WoW into the earlier Warcraft RTS games. Was there any instances before then?

 

You might be onto something there, it might very well bli Blizzard to blame (or "thank", as I do like the accent) for dwarves having scottish accents in many forms of media.

Warcraft 2 (launched in 1995) Demolition Squads sounds *very* scottish, and then they kept that accent for their dwarven units in WC3 (Riflemen, Mortar Teams, Mountain Kings, etc), and then in World of Warcraft it is, as they say, history.

Then the same accent was then applied to dwarves from other sources, like LotR-dwarves, Fantasy-dwarves, etc as they took inspiration from what I'd assume is the first case of "modern scottish dwarfs"?

But yeah, giving Votann a different accent (like psuedo-nordic/scandinavian) is a clever way to differentiate them from other dwarves, and we all know how much GW loooves to protect their "own" IP.
 

 

55 minutes ago, TheVoidDragon said:

 

Oh yeah, that is definitely scottish.....very clearly so, as he's even using scottish slang!

 

Regular Dwarf Engineers (heroes) also speak scottish, but it really is all over the place.
There are many cases of dwarfs speakling whats clearly *not* scottish as well (like Gotrek, Daemon Slayer Lords, Throrgrim, etc.)
Damn it CA, pick an accent and stick with it! 

Edited May 23 by Minsc

[Nagashsnee]

Rces/faction should not be accent locked. Even inf antasy Malakai is NOTED to be from a northern hold and the way he speaks is strange even to other Dwarfs. Accents are not locked by faction/race/location, you will have a huge variety.  Having Dwarfs from the Holds near Bretonnia have different accents compared to Dwarfs from Norsca is not only reasonal it should be expected.  When you then have entire clans settling in new holds/traveling accents would and should be all over the place. 

 

40k expecting any kind of faction specific accent is delusional.