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Morvenn was Argent Shroud I think.

 

When she became the Abbess, she became a supreme commander, so even if subfaction keywords still existed for anyone except marines, she wouldn't have one.

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1 hour ago, StrangerOrders said:

I think the High Lord isn't originally Martyred Lady, Ebon Chalice if I go by memory but I could be wrong.

 

Not sure of she counts though.

 

And the Triumpth of St. Katherine is the Angry Nun UN iirc.

 

Aestrid Thurga is also not Our Martyred Lady. In fact, she's not even Orders Millitant, as she's part of the August Vigil, which is one of the Orders Pronatus. Celestine & Ephrael are likewise, not Our Martyred Lady, though they are ex-Our Martyred Lady, if you count that. So really the only Our Martyred Lady character is Junith Erutia, though it can be hard to tell as GW just paints them all either black or gold.

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The characters getting models are ones with books coming out at the time, just like Cain when he got his model :D 

 

he's actually not a terrible candidate to get another as his series is ongoing but he'd be the fourth commissar special character at that point, which is a bit bloaty :P

 

 

This is a fantastic model though, might have to keep one as intended lol

57 minutes ago, Toxichobbit said:

 

Aestrid Thurga is also not Our Martyred Lady. In fact, she's not even Orders Millitant, as she's part of the August Vigil, which is one of the Orders Pronatus. Celestine & Ephrael are likewise, not Our Martyred Lady, though they are ex-Our Martyred Lady, if you count that. So really the only Our Martyred Lady character is Junith Erutia, though it can be hard to tell as GW just paints them all either black or gold.

I stand corrected. It seems I counted a lot of sisters characters as OML cause of the black paint scheme, it seems. Still, its a first for the other orders militant then, which is nice.

 

1 hour ago, Toxichobbit said:

 

Aestrid Thurga is also not Our Martyred Lady. In fact, she's not even Orders Millitant, as she's part of the August Vigil, which is one of the Orders Pronatus. Celestine & Ephrael are likewise, not Our Martyred Lady, though they are ex-Our Martyred Lady, if you count that. So really the only Our Martyred Lady character is Junith Erutia, though it can be hard to tell as GW just paints them all either black or gold.

I'd have to see Aestred in a list before I could count her as an actual character in the book. 

3 hours ago, ThePenitentOne said:

 

If by "More Iconic heroes" you mean MOAR Marines, let me be the first to say, not thanks, I'm very glad other factions are getting attention.

 

 

Not necessarily 

 

I mean characters such as Alizabeth Bequin, Ciaphas Cain, Qvo 88, Captain Felix, etc

 

Some of these have multiple novels that feature them, and years of storied lore.

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At least for a few of those, they have no place in a skirmish game.

Bequin shouldn't be anywhere near a 40k release; would possibly fit in Kill Team if they did a full team based around Eisenhorn or her attendents, but even that feels like a stretch.  A cool model for Necromunda maybe?  Cain's dead, or is alternately probably already in the pipe for a new release.  Qvo 88 is not a "war" guy, he's basically a secret agent/confidant of Bellisarius Cawl (This model could show up, but generally wouldn't make much sense unless you're also bringing Cawl along, at which point, just add him to Cawl's base as fun fluff extras).  Captain Felix, sure, but I don't think the Ultramarines need MORE heroes, do they?  Especially ANOTHER Captain!?

 

I hope they keep doing cool one offs like this Cannoness and Minka Lesk (Though Minka's price point was a joke).

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1 hour ago, Tyriks said:

I agree with some others that the sword is a bit weird, but it has grown on me in the couple hours since I first saw it.

 

Find yourself someone who loves you as much as Aveline loves fire. :smile:

32 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

 Cain's dead, or is alternately probably already in the pipe for a new release. 

 

IIRC, isn't Gaunt also dead by the current time period of 40k?

In fact, I'm pretty sure there's a bunch of named characters who are almost certainly dead in lore but are usable on the tabletop, including a bunch of Marine characters.

1 hour ago, DemonGSides said:

At least for a few of those, they have no place in a skirmish game.

Bequin shouldn't be anywhere near a 40k release; would possibly fit in Kill Team if they did a full team based around Eisenhorn or her attendents, but even that feels like a stretch.  A cool model for Necromunda maybe?  Cain's dead, or is alternately probably already in the pipe for a new release.  Qvo 88 is not a "war" guy, he's basically a secret agent/confidant of Bellisarius Cawl (This model could show up, but generally wouldn't make much sense unless you're also bringing Cawl along, at which point, just add him to Cawl's base as fun fluff extras).  Captain Felix, sure, but I don't think the Ultramarines need MORE heroes, do they?  Especially ANOTHER Captain!?

 

I hope they keep doing cool one offs like this Cannoness and Minka Lesk (Though Minka's price point was a joke).

 

I mean, eisenhorn and bequin and the ghosts are all set hundreds of years before the present, they are all dead (I hope!). 

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I don't believe Chaos has ever received a BL-adjacent miniature have they?

 

First Claw are an obvious pick for a squad-sized box, particularly since deaths didn't stop the afore mentioned Gaunt's Ghosts box happening.

 

Then there's all the names from the Black Legion series, as well as Honsou to 'round out' Uriel Ventris. 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Lord Marshal said:

I don't believe Chaos has ever received a BL-adjacent miniature have they?

 

First Claw are an obvious pick for a squad-sized box, particularly since deaths didn't stop the afore mentioned Gaunt's Ghosts box happening.

 

Then there's all the names from the Black Legion series, as well as Honsou to 'round out' Uriel Ventris. 

 

Iskandar Khayon would be a good pick for a BL Chaos Character mini, but the GW would need to decide if he's be usable in base CSM, TSons and if he'd be a Legends mini or have normal 40k rules.

 

Also RE: Ciaphus Cain and him being the 4th BL Commisar mini.
Considering how the Ciaphus Cain books tend to go, GW could have a unit consisting of Cain, Jurgen and Amberly Vale as a unit for Agents of the Inquisition (either in their rumoured codex or just in the AoI category of shared units.)

That is the tacticalest of tactical rocks, dayum. All in all, too fragile, too over the top. The "my flaming sword flashes my faction logo" thing is just jumping the shark.

That's a great model! I can't wait to see the paint job people do on it "in the wild."

 

What makes that model best for me though? The gothic additions, like the cybernetic cherubs and parchments.

 

(Not a big fan of the helmet less head, as I don't feel like it looks like the art enough, but that's a minor interpretation feel. Plus stray bullets means I'd like protection on a bonnet!)

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3 hours ago, Indy Techwisp said:

 

IIRC, isn't Gaunt also dead by the current time period of 40k?

In fact, I'm pretty sure there's a bunch of named characters who are almost certainly dead in lore but are usable on the tabletop, including a bunch of Marine characters.

  

2 hours ago, Petitioner's City said:

 

I mean, eisenhorn and bequin and the ghosts are all set hundreds of years before the present, they are all dead (I hope!). 

 

Difference being the obvious "Cain is called out as dead in a recent codex."  The fact that the only counter anyone honed in on was "Well you mentioned one dead guy" when the point was that certain characters don't make sense for a war game, not that dead characters can't get models.  It's kind of the whole problem with Imperial Agents as a faction; they use it as a dumping ground when the game would probably be better off if they just either made them a REAL faction with REAL support, or got rid of them, instead of the weird in-between land they are currently.  Like Eisenhorn, great model, great character!  Does it make sense in a routine game of even 1k points of 40k?  No.  I think it'd make a lot of sense for Kill Team though, and would possibly be really fun.  Maybe this is off topic with the thread conversation a bit, though.

Most of those dead marine characters are legacy hold ons that I doubt will survive much longer.  I don't expect Tycho to survive, much how Telion and Chronus only exist as Legends.  Don't hold out hope too much for characters of that same caliber across the marine ranges as GW continues forward.  Then again, Ezekiel still exists, so who really knows what GW's plan is?  I don't think they even know half the time.

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

Another "helmet on" looking sister haha. The sword is a bit much in my opinion but a cool looking model nonetheless.

 

It is a fair point. I'm puzzled as to why these human women look more masculine and exaggerated than the Adeptus Astartes. 

 

Helmet firmly on

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