ThePenitentOne Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 (edited) Morvenn was Argent Shroud I think. When she became the Abbess, she became a supreme commander, so even if subfaction keywords still existed for anyone except marines, she wouldn't have one. Edited June 3 by ThePenitentOne Vardus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, StrangerOrders said: I think the High Lord isn't originally Martyred Lady, Ebon Chalice if I go by memory but I could be wrong. Not sure of she counts though. And the Triumpth of St. Katherine is the Angry Nun UN iirc. Aestrid Thurga is also not Our Martyred Lady. In fact, she's not even Orders Millitant, as she's part of the August Vigil, which is one of the Orders Pronatus. Celestine & Ephrael are likewise, not Our Martyred Lady, though they are ex-Our Martyred Lady, if you count that. So really the only Our Martyred Lady character is Junith Erutia, though it can be hard to tell as GW just paints them all either black or gold. Edited June 3 by Toxichobbit Alby the Slayer, tinpact and StrangerOrders 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 The characters getting models are ones with books coming out at the time, just like Cain when he got his model :D he's actually not a terrible candidate to get another as his series is ongoing but he'd be the fourth commissar special character at that point, which is a bit bloaty :P This is a fantastic model though, might have to keep one as intended lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinpact Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Love the flamer-sword. I expect this model will be a popular one in painting competitions coming up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 57 minutes ago, Toxichobbit said: Aestrid Thurga is also not Our Martyred Lady. In fact, she's not even Orders Millitant, as she's part of the August Vigil, which is one of the Orders Pronatus. Celestine & Ephrael are likewise, not Our Martyred Lady, though they are ex-Our Martyred Lady, if you count that. So really the only Our Martyred Lady character is Junith Erutia, though it can be hard to tell as GW just paints them all either black or gold. I stand corrected. It seems I counted a lot of sisters characters as OML cause of the black paint scheme, it seems. Still, its a first for the other orders militant then, which is nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 GW is making it harder not to pick up some Sisters! I agree with some others that the sword is a bit weird, but it has grown on me in the couple hours since I first saw it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Looks more like a canoness than the flying canoness Nova-V and phandaal 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolandTHTG Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 1 hour ago, Toxichobbit said: Aestrid Thurga is also not Our Martyred Lady. In fact, she's not even Orders Millitant, as she's part of the August Vigil, which is one of the Orders Pronatus. Celestine & Ephrael are likewise, not Our Martyred Lady, though they are ex-Our Martyred Lady, if you count that. So really the only Our Martyred Lady character is Junith Erutia, though it can be hard to tell as GW just paints them all either black or gold. I'd have to see Aestred in a list before I could count her as an actual character in the book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 3 hours ago, ThePenitentOne said: If by "More Iconic heroes" you mean MOAR Marines, let me be the first to say, not thanks, I'm very glad other factions are getting attention. Not necessarily I mean characters such as Alizabeth Bequin, Ciaphas Cain, Qvo 88, Captain Felix, etc Some of these have multiple novels that feature them, and years of storied lore. beefeb and Alby the Slayer 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 (edited) At least for a few of those, they have no place in a skirmish game. Bequin shouldn't be anywhere near a 40k release; would possibly fit in Kill Team if they did a full team based around Eisenhorn or her attendents, but even that feels like a stretch. A cool model for Necromunda maybe? Cain's dead, or is alternately probably already in the pipe for a new release. Qvo 88 is not a "war" guy, he's basically a secret agent/confidant of Bellisarius Cawl (This model could show up, but generally wouldn't make much sense unless you're also bringing Cawl along, at which point, just add him to Cawl's base as fun fluff extras). Captain Felix, sure, but I don't think the Ultramarines need MORE heroes, do they? Especially ANOTHER Captain!? I hope they keep doing cool one offs like this Cannoness and Minka Lesk (Though Minka's price point was a joke). Edited June 3 by DemonGSides Lazarine 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 1 hour ago, Tyriks said: I agree with some others that the sword is a bit weird, but it has grown on me in the couple hours since I first saw it. Find yourself someone who loves you as much as Aveline loves fire. ThePenitentOne 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 32 minutes ago, DemonGSides said: Cain's dead, or is alternately probably already in the pipe for a new release. IIRC, isn't Gaunt also dead by the current time period of 40k? In fact, I'm pretty sure there's a bunch of named characters who are almost certainly dead in lore but are usable on the tabletop, including a bunch of Marine characters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Praetorian of Inwit Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 The model looks really nice. I can't say I've heard of her before but the novel interests me. Still a shame that it isn't an Imperial Fists release though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 1 hour ago, DemonGSides said: At least for a few of those, they have no place in a skirmish game. Bequin shouldn't be anywhere near a 40k release; would possibly fit in Kill Team if they did a full team based around Eisenhorn or her attendents, but even that feels like a stretch. A cool model for Necromunda maybe? Cain's dead, or is alternately probably already in the pipe for a new release. Qvo 88 is not a "war" guy, he's basically a secret agent/confidant of Bellisarius Cawl (This model could show up, but generally wouldn't make much sense unless you're also bringing Cawl along, at which point, just add him to Cawl's base as fun fluff extras). Captain Felix, sure, but I don't think the Ultramarines need MORE heroes, do they? Especially ANOTHER Captain!? I hope they keep doing cool one offs like this Cannoness and Minka Lesk (Though Minka's price point was a joke). I mean, eisenhorn and bequin and the ghosts are all set hundreds of years before the present, they are all dead (I hope!). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Didn't stop Gaunt's Ghosts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 (edited) I don't believe Chaos has ever received a BL-adjacent miniature have they? First Claw are an obvious pick for a squad-sized box, particularly since deaths didn't stop the afore mentioned Gaunt's Ghosts box happening. Then there's all the names from the Black Legion series, as well as Honsou to 'round out' Uriel Ventris. Edited June 3 by Lord Marshal Dalmyth, LSM, Marshal Loss and 3 others 1 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 7 minutes ago, Lord Marshal said: I don't believe Chaos has ever received a BL-adjacent miniature have they? First Claw are an obvious pick for a squad-sized box, particularly since deaths didn't stop the afore mentioned Gaunt's Ghosts box happening. Then there's all the names from the Black Legion series, as well as Honsou to 'round out' Uriel Ventris. Iskandar Khayon would be a good pick for a BL Chaos Character mini, but the GW would need to decide if he's be usable in base CSM, TSons and if he'd be a Legends mini or have normal 40k rules. Also RE: Ciaphus Cain and him being the 4th BL Commisar mini. Considering how the Ciaphus Cain books tend to go, GW could have a unit consisting of Cain, Jurgen and Amberly Vale as a unit for Agents of the Inquisition (either in their rumoured codex or just in the AoI category of shared units.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 That is the tacticalest of tactical rocks, dayum. All in all, too fragile, too over the top. The "my flaming sword flashes my faction logo" thing is just jumping the shark. Aarik, Marshal Reinhard and SteveAntilles 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Sacred Rose finally getting some love! Marshal Reinhard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 That's a great model! I can't wait to see the paint job people do on it "in the wild." What makes that model best for me though? The gothic additions, like the cybernetic cherubs and parchments. (Not a big fan of the helmet less head, as I don't feel like it looks like the art enough, but that's a minor interpretation feel. Plus stray bullets means I'd like protection on a bonnet!) firestorm40k and jaxom 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 (edited) 3 hours ago, Indy Techwisp said: IIRC, isn't Gaunt also dead by the current time period of 40k? In fact, I'm pretty sure there's a bunch of named characters who are almost certainly dead in lore but are usable on the tabletop, including a bunch of Marine characters. 2 hours ago, Petitioner's City said: I mean, eisenhorn and bequin and the ghosts are all set hundreds of years before the present, they are all dead (I hope!). Difference being the obvious "Cain is called out as dead in a recent codex." The fact that the only counter anyone honed in on was "Well you mentioned one dead guy" when the point was that certain characters don't make sense for a war game, not that dead characters can't get models. It's kind of the whole problem with Imperial Agents as a faction; they use it as a dumping ground when the game would probably be better off if they just either made them a REAL faction with REAL support, or got rid of them, instead of the weird in-between land they are currently. Like Eisenhorn, great model, great character! Does it make sense in a routine game of even 1k points of 40k? No. I think it'd make a lot of sense for Kill Team though, and would possibly be really fun. Maybe this is off topic with the thread conversation a bit, though. Most of those dead marine characters are legacy hold ons that I doubt will survive much longer. I don't expect Tycho to survive, much how Telion and Chronus only exist as Legends. Don't hold out hope too much for characters of that same caliber across the marine ranges as GW continues forward. Then again, Ezekiel still exists, so who really knows what GW's plan is? I don't think they even know half the time. Edited June 3 by DemonGSides Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) Did she and Helbrecht designed by the same person? Edited June 4 by Tokugawa Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6043997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Another "helmet on" looking sister haha. The sword is a bit much in my opinion but a cool looking model nonetheless. Orange Knight 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6044000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 38 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said: Another "helmet on" looking sister haha. The sword is a bit much in my opinion but a cool looking model nonetheless. It is a fair point. I'm puzzled as to why these human women look more masculine and exaggerated than the Adeptus Astartes. Helmet firmly on SvenIronhand, Special Officer Doofy, phandaal and 3 others 1 3 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6044003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 I got plenty of helmet-less sisters. this one got a special helm. It's staying on Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383050-celestian-sacresant-aveline-model-novel-daemonbreaker/page/2/#findComment-6044004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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