Craig Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Maybe this is old news but here's an article about GWs plan to expand it's site in Nottingham. https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/business/warhammer-firm-games-workshop-build-9344258?gaa_at=la&gaa_n=ARTJ-U_jUARIz_4DK2GmnJbOYkJamT_0zjHw0nm40IwhT947c45M3sJv4Qc6gTw8990%3D&gaa_ts=666d2c49&utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=discover&utm_campaign=CCwqGQgwKhAIACoHCAowh8KhCTCJ3ZYCMMrrrQIw3OjgAg&utm_content=bullets&gaa_sig=vusDy1wia22dvtDetFGOioueosgXBVlxoeh3xXRfV2usX2Eh5fAEha3g90I3OfFZdvg6rlgRGjWUY2bRucSKHw%3D%3D skylerboodie and N1SB 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefeb Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Wasnt that the extension that was refused planning permission by the local council? N1SB and Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 39 minutes ago, beefeb said: Wasnt that the extension that was refused planning permission by the local council? Possibly. If so it's quite an important detail to omit. :) N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanDutch Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 (edited) https://publicaccess.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?keyVal=SEJII7LYH2L00&activeTab=summary Looks like a new application has been made. I expect there was an observation or a requirement from the planning team or environmental agency that hadn’t been met. These sorts of things often have to be resubmitted due to formalities. Edited June 15 by VanDutch roryokane, Domhnall, Dalmyth and 1 other 1 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 So it looks like the excuses that "the council won't let us" were just that - excuses. It's good news but should have been done before. 2026 is like a hundred years away or something. N1SB, Cenobite Terminator and Emperor Ming 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Great news both for us hobbyists and Nottingham. Hopefully it will be approved but good luck to the navigating planning! I'm just glad they are not in a national park. Muskie and Captain Idaho 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 UK red tape.... Something that moves slower and is less efficient than the Administratum Redrandy93, Special Officer Doofy, Casual Heresy and 9 others 1 10 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Why did I go through those documents like one was going to say “Plastic Primarch makin’ room!” calgar101, N1SB, Astartes Consul and 6 others 1 6 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 2 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said: UK red tape.... Something that moves slower and is less efficient than the Administratum Definitely, and like I said in my previous post, if you live in a national park it is FAR worse. 2 minutes ago, Marshal Rohr said: Why did I go through those documents like one was going to say “Plastic Primarch makin’ room!” That is probably why the first application was refused, Warhammer Will on the council team, insisted this change was added! Gamiel, LameBeard, beefeb and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 This isn't exactly new news, as Factory 4 was confirmed a few months back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 8 hours ago, Captain Idaho said: So it looks like the excuses that "the council won't let us" were just that - excuses. It's good news but should have been done before. 2026 is like a hundred years away or something. we can look forward to a super smooth roll out of the 11th edition starter boxes so :) "Games Workshop plans to open its fourth factory on land at the rear of its headquarters in spring 2026, before relocating its packing operations to the new facility. Moving these operations out of factories along Willow Road would then create space to expand its tooling and injection moulding operations - enabling production to ramp up." Sounds like the new building/expansion is a packing plant so maybe that soothed the council? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Yeah got to grease the wheel of local authorities - or threaten to move out completely with some credibility. Good point on the roll out for 11th. That is actually massively reassuring. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matcap86 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: Yeah got to grease the wheel of local authorities - or threaten to move out completely with some credibility. Good point on the roll out for 11th. That is actually massively reassuring. Sidetrack, but I wonder if they're really going for "11th edition" or if they will start over branding wise like so many other longrunning franchises. Edited June 15 by Matcap86 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 18 minutes ago, Dark Shepherd said: we can look forward to a super smooth roll out of the 11th edition starter boxes so :) "Games Workshop plans to open its fourth factory on land at the rear of its headquarters in spring 2026, before relocating its packing operations to the new facility. Moving these operations out of factories along Willow Road would then create space to expand its tooling and injection moulding operations - enabling production to ramp up." Sounds like the new building/expansion is a packing plant so maybe that soothed the council? Could be a whole host of reasons, building footprint, parking, planning is a minefield. 11th 2025, heard it here first, haha. What I want from this, is the Horus Heresy range to be fully plastic, and all unit options covered, including all legion specific ones and upgrades. I am not asking for much. Redrandy93 and Dark Shepherd 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcomet Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 8 hours ago, Captain Idaho said: So it looks like the excuses that "the council won't let us" were just that - excuses. It's good news but should have been done before. 2026 is like a hundred years away or something. Come on now. More likely that GW have modified their application to conform with whatever issues the council had. It happens all the time. And takes a long time. But no. We have to assume incompetence or malice. Still wonder why people support a company they despise so much ThaneOfTas, Inquisitor lorr, Oxydo and 18 others 9 12 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remain_Indoors Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Has Nottingham fixed their power shortage issues? Otherwise it’s just another factory that can’t be kept on. N1SB and Dezron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Praetorian of Inwit Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Let's hope the council don't object again. Though I wouldn't be surprised. Nottingham Council, like many in the UK, has a psychopathic obsession with being a 'University town' at the expense of businesses and residents. I wonder if the issues with water/sewage and power have been fixed? GW is not the only business in Nottingham with infrastructure issues that the council won't tackle. Hopefully in the long term this helps the issues with stock that have been a huge problem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK0SIAN Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 2 hours ago, Captain Idaho said: Yeah got to grease the wheel of local authorities - or threaten to move out completely with some credibility. Good point on the roll out for 11th. That is actually massively reassuring. I’d say this is massively worrying for the rollout of 11th. Their track record on warehousing updates/improvements is terrible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 2 hours ago, Matcap86 said: Sidetrack, but I wonder if they're really going for "11th edition" or if they will start over branding wise like so many other longrunning franchises. GW themselves gave up referring to editions by number a long time ago, they always just call whatever they're about to launch "the new edition". LameBeard, Matcap86 and skylerboodie 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waaagh? Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 By the time it's done the demand will have increased further anyway. When I worked for them demand was always one step ahead of production capacity regardless of how quickly they tried to combat it. N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blurgh Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 (edited) "Games Workshop plans to open its fourth factory on land.." Yeah, but counting the manufactorums on space stations in orbit in the solar system, and even those floating in the warp, they should hopefully soon be able to cope with demand! Edited June 15 by Blurgh Redrandy93, Arendious, calgar101 and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Increased production means new units will all be O.P :) Otherwise they have a warehouse full of 15,000 Angel ash trays and 4 million Tzaangors N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrindur Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 5 hours ago, Halandaar said: GW themselves gave up referring to editions by number a long time ago, they always just call whatever they're about to launch "the new edition". Thats not completely true. They might not print 10th edition in capital over their products but they do call it 10th sometimes if the clarity is needed. Here for example for the Q&A. But for 9th it was pretty much never called that, the only ones I found in a quick search where for the final balance dataslate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1SB Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 (edited) In about a month's time, Games Workshop will publish its financial annual report. Well done on scooping them: On 6/15/2024 at 1:47 PM, Craig said: Maybe this is old news but here's an article about GWs plan to expand it's site in Nottingham. https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/business/warhammer-firm-games-workshop-build-9344258?gaa_at=la&gaa_n=ARTJ-U_jUARIz_4DK2GmnJbOYkJamT_0zjHw0nm40IwhT947c45M3sJv4Qc6gTw8990%3D&gaa_ts=666d2c49&utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=discover&utm_campaign=CCwqGQgwKhAIACoHCAowh8KhCTCJ3ZYCMMrrrQIw3OjgAg&utm_content=bullets&gaa_sig=vusDy1wia22dvtDetFGOioueosgXBVlxoeh3xXRfV2usX2Eh5fAEha3g90I3OfFZdvg6rlgRGjWUY2bRucSKHw%3D%3D They had announced PLANS to build Factory Four in the half-year report (around Jan). Production is the bottleneck for Warhammer's growth. Just to remind our Veteran Brothers et Sororitas or to inform new Brothers et Sororitas, GW's grown 4x since 7th ed, but still uses the same 3 factories. We've hit capacity a long, long time ago. Source: https://assets.ctfassets.net/ost7hseic9hc/1tSExWot8zVGvrPyXJOEJo/dc17ba0f8fc48a497ca6026f2a1fae4d/2023-24_half_year_report_-_final_for_IR.pdf Factory 4 IS old news, but until now, we didn't know of any progress, we didn't have a timetable. YOU and the world-renowned Nottingham Post brought us the most pertinent news. Everybody else is like "OH MY COG, AMAZON WROTE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING TO HOLD A MEETING TO DISCUSS WRITING ANOTHER MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WARHAMMER," whereas you brought us real intel. You are to be commended, Brother Craig. On 6/15/2024 at 3:30 PM, VanDutch said: https://publicaccess.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?keyVal=SEJII7LYH2L00&activeTab=summary Looks like a new application has been made. I expect there was an observation or a requirement from the planning team or environmental agency that hadn’t been met. These sorts of things often have to be resubmitted due to formalities. The fact that you even knew to look for these suggests you and I fought in similar wars within the Administratum. Gj Brother VanDutch. Listen, guys, for those of you that have not YET had to use this real-life workplace stratagem, it goes like this: CREATE NEW JOBS (CP 1) To anyone who had to submit anything to the government, you fill in the forms, cross your i's and dot your t's (or whatever, you know I'm terrible at this stuff, I'm barely competent enough to start a new thread here on B&C), they will STILL find something wrong...because it's part of the process. At 1st, I thought they were flexing their power, or it was political, but now I realise USUALLY they're just doing their jobs. To the government, all this paperwork is their version of having a dialogue. You will have actual meetings, but this is part of it. So here's how to accelerate the process. In casual conversation, mention you also need more local employees...and make it sound authentic. Like this, "We need the land, we already got the capital...but the hardest part is getting THE RIGHT PEOPLE. These are high-skilled GOOD-PLAYING JOBS, we'll provide the training ourselves, but we need them to live LOCALLY, we need to HIRE LOCAL PEOPLE. Just to start, we need x, and if all goes well, we have to expand to 2x. I have no idea how to FILL ALL THESE JOBS without EMPLOYING LOCAL PEOPLE...you guys have any ideas about that?" You'll find suddenly your own job just got a whole lot easier. The government cares less about your Revenue (even tho taxes) than Employment. Why do I bring this up? Well, it's a really good real-life workplace Stratagem that costs little CP, but look at WHERE Brother Craig's article appears: I know I know it's in the Nottingham Post, famous world newspaper of course, and in the Business section, but specifically, Employment. 21 hours ago, Captain Idaho said: Yeah got to grease the wheel of local authorities - or threaten to move out completely with some credibility. Jobs is the ultimate grease, the ultimate threat is a younger, prettier girl. Who's the younger, prettier girl? North America. GW's Revenue in North America has long overtaken not just the UK, not just Europe, but both the UK AND Europe combined. You know how North America has these nice, big tracts of land with heavy natural resources like petrol for plastics and energy used in plastic mold injection. She's also real friendly-like, to corporations, that Southern Belle charm, mhhh! And that dame's gams go all the way to the floor, my friend. INB4 mods having to step in: this isn't political. GW's NA Revenue surpassed UK + EU together, and it does have a lot of oil, that's all I be sayin'. I was looking for how long this has been going on and same news source published this talking about expansions since forever: https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/nottingham-news/record-results-games-workshop-work-2431341. It's not just 1 thing, it's an ongoing thing...but clearly the inspiration for 40k's Administratum bureaucracy came from here, it's like in that Guy Haley book with that civil servant on Terra. Edit - Brother Malakithe raises a great point below, I'm glad he did, because otherwise I'll forget to comment on prices. Pls see Page 2 of this thread. Edited June 16 by N1SB Xanthous, Magos Takatus, darkhorse0607 and 19 others 8 4 10 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Can't wait for more price increases to cover the costs of construction Interrogator Stobz, phandaal, Emperor Ming and 4 others 4 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383120-games-workshop-expansion/#findComment-6045730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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