WAR Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) I trading my buddy a bunch of GW stuff I'm not using for his. It will be nice to have terrain to play games with the kids and may motivate me to paint my Kill Team: Chalnath, Kill Team: Rogue Trader, and Necromunda terrain.... Edited July 18 by WAR MithrilForge 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6050571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithrilForge Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 4 hours ago, Redcomet said: You got a lot of lore. That’d be expensive lore… firestorm40k, Maschinenpriester, Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf and 2 others 3 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6050618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 10 minutes ago, MithrilForge said: That’d be expensive lore… Sadly it usually is. Even in the codex's you are kinda paying a lot for the lore. Because the rules are often quickly outdated. LameBeard, MithrilForge, firestorm40k and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6050623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastyfish Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 22 hours ago, SvenIronhand said: These have always interested me, but buying specialized terrain has always put me off. Maybe I should just nut up and make some. It's probably one of the best value GW sets to be honest, the plastic boarding action set is pretty comparable in price to almost all the alternatives, from TTCombat's MDF to even Battle System's cardstock terrain. The official 40K Boarding action set is £114 from Element, whilst two of [url=https://battlesystems.co.uk/product/cyberpunk-core-set/]Battle System's Cyberpunk[/url] card stock boards would be £89.98. On the other hand the latter is already precoloured and doesn't need as much work to get it onto the board as the GW set does. It also comes with little chests that you can actually put tokens in as well, if you wanted to scratch that Dungeon crawling loot itch (say during Kill Team's 'The Courier' mission). But yeah, it's surprising in this case how competitive the official terrain is. Probably need to be a proper home made bodge job with layers of spare packaging and cereal box card, with a few straw/lollystick pipes etc to really get things done for cheap. jaxom and LameBeard 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6050700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenobite Terminator Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 “But yeah, it's surprising in this case how competitive the official terrain is. Probably need to be a proper home made bodge job with layers of spare packaging and cereal box card, with a few straw/lollystick pipes etc to really get things done for cheap.” It would take so much time and work to do it justice just easier to buy the kit if you can afford it. MithrilForge, LameBeard and ZeroWolf 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6050702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharn13 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 12 hours ago, INKS said: Sadly it usually is. Even in the codex's you are kinda paying a lot for the lore. Because the rules are often quickly outdated. It’s a shame they don’t offer physical and digital versions like buying a game or album. I would much rather pay a discounted price for digital and save the trees. In terms of building this terrain, Peachy did a neat video recently using children’s building blocks. Would work well for this. INKS and LameBeard 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6050728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylerboodie Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Has the lore from Arks Of Omen not been added to Warhammer+ yet? That's a longer term solution for cheap digital lore, if you don't mind waiting. Kharn13 and INKS 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6050735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 14 hours ago, Tastyfish said: It's probably one of the best value GW sets to be honest, the plastic boarding action set is pretty comparable in price to almost all the alternatives, from TTCombat's MDF to even Battle System's cardstock terrain. The official 40K Boarding action set is £114 from Element, whilst two of [url=https://battlesystems.co.uk/product/cyberpunk-core-set/]Battle System's Cyberpunk[/url] card stock boards would be £89.98. On the other hand the latter is already precoloured and doesn't need as much work to get it onto the board as the GW set does. It also comes with little chests that you can actually put tokens in as well, if you wanted to scratch that Dungeon crawling loot itch (say during Kill Team's 'The Courier' mission). But yeah, it's surprising in this case how competitive the official terrain is. Probably need to be a proper home made bodge job with layers of spare packaging and cereal box card, with a few straw/lollystick pipes etc to really get things done for cheap. 13 hours ago, Cenobite Terminator said: “But yeah, it's surprising in this case how competitive the official terrain is. Probably need to be a proper home made bodge job with layers of spare packaging and cereal box card, with a few straw/lollystick pipes etc to really get things done for cheap.” It would take so much time and work to do it justice just easier to buy the kit if you can afford it. MithrilForge, Ming the Merciless, crimsondave and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6050765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 I'm pretty hype for this. 500 point infantry-only games are right up my alley, especially on a really cool themed board. The GW terrain kit has huge competition from 3d printing, IMO. You can get an Ender 3 and some good filament for less than the MSRP on the Boarding Actions terrain, and pick up one of several STL collections for under $15. I know a lot of noise is made about resin printers to print proxies instead of buying models from GW, but resin printing still has a much higher barrier to entry than filament - and for terrain, layer lines aren't as big a deal as on a mini. Cenobite Terminator and MithrilForge 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6050768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 6 hours ago, skylerboodie said: Has the lore from Arks Of Omen not been added to Warhammer+ yet? That's a longer term solution for cheap digital lore, if you don't mind waiting. I believe so, and they have also started portioning off pieces of the AoO story for regular black library releases as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6050775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiros14 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/17/2024 at 5:23 PM, DemonGSides said: My narrative group was just talking about how we could integrate "Indoor spaces" into a game; a building that can be entered by infantry and fought while a bigger fight with tanks/heavy weapons happening "Outside". Basically two boards, one board where it's the interior of a large building, and the other board as that building and it's surrounding area. Slightly updated rules might make this a distinct possibility. Very happy to see this. Apologies for the shameless plug but I am working on just that: A siege game that uses the boarding action tiles as a fortress interior that the attacker needs to breach and rescue a captured navigator. LameBeard, MithrilForge, DemonGSides and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6050832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalamandersBro Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 M8ght get this so i could get my wife onto playing. 500 pts seems reasonable Maschinenpriester, N1SB, MithrilForge and 1 other 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6050945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArtilleryman Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 7 hours ago, SalamandersBro said: M8ght get this so i could get my wife onto playing. 500 pts seems reasonable Don’t hold your breath. I’ve been trying to do this for 18 years and it doesn’t seem to matter how much I spend on Warhammer, or how much space it takes up in the house, she still doesn’t want to play. :sigh Zoatibix, skylerboodie, Maschinenpriester and 10 others 10 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6050967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 You know, maybe I'm a bit "Horus Heresy-centred" but I think this supplement would be make more and better service in Horus Heresy than in the current edition of W40K. A good opportunity to expand zone mortalis with more specific rules for boarding actions, like in Badab War, new equipment options, and even more units, general and legion specific. And a great opportunity to launch a plastic Breachers squad... Moonstalker, spiros14, Joe and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6051022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiros14 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 11 hours ago, Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf said: You know, maybe I'm a bit "Horus Heresy-centred" but I think this supplement would be make more and better service in Horus Heresy than in the current edition of W40K. A good opportunity to expand zone mortalis with more specific rules for boarding actions, like in Badab War, new equipment options, and even more units, general and legion specific. And a great opportunity to launch a plastic Breachers squad... That's something I hadn't really considered.TBH, it isn't like the boarding action terrain couldn't be used for 30k. It isn't plastered with Imperial Aquilas or anything, it's all faction ambiguous. LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6051083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farson Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 2 hours ago, spiros14 said: That's something I hadn't really considered.TBH, it isn't like the boarding action terrain couldn't be used for 30k. It isn't plastered with Imperial Aquilas or anything, it's all faction ambiguous. My friend and I have used it for zone mortalis. Two of the big boxes for a board, it gets quite unwieldy built into larger peices and really needs to be fixed in place. The zm rules don't quite work with it without adaption as the doors are a bit smaller and you don't get the double wide etc. There was a fan made zone mortalis combat patrol from last edition that would work really well for it. Victory is death or something along those lines. spiros14 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6051094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiros14 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 (Apologies mods if this is straying too far off topic) Personally I think at this time GW have started to and perhaps should continue to create a more serious split between "Zone Mortalis" and "Boarding Actions" when it comes to terrain. What I mean by that is that Zone Mortalis has developed from a more-or-less maze of walls and doors on a 2d plane to a more heavily developed 3d area which includes stairways, lifts, ladders, and an incredible amount of compatibility with the existing Sector Imperialis and Sector Mechanicus terrain (I would recommend looking up Owen Patten - the designer - on x and look at the tips and tricks he has on the subject). Which makes for a very intricate battlefield, but also one that is lacking specific detail (It looks like you're always fighting over a corridor or mezzanine - fine for a Hive, less so for a space ship. Now look at Boarding Actions. We have our maze of walls and doors on a 2d plane, but because those walls are a lot thinner, more can be added to those rooms to give it life. If you look at the Killzone boxes to supplement those walls for kill team, you see that almost all are designed to represent an area of the ship, including an armoury, a control room, an infirmary, and escape pods. Walls are heavily decorated with panels and screens and pipes, and while the layout of the table is simple, The narrative you can tell is a lot more complex. Even the missions support this, with a majority describing where it is the map layout is representing on the ship, and what extra rule is added to accentuate that area. When you look online and see that many fans have made up their own walls to reflect their own factions, or gotten other terrain sets so their ship has a library and a mess hall, you realise that boarding actions is perhaps the closest GW has gotten to make their fans into doll houses, which isn't a bad thing. I would love GW to continue down this road and perhaps even introduce a branching out campaign to represent a force boarding an enemy vessel (including a cinematic "breaking through the hull with a torpedo full of marines) and moving through various areas of a ship to get to either the bridge or engine room. TL;DR GW has the potential to make Zone Mortalis be a backdrop to tell a story about cool Necromunda fighters and Boarding actions be a story about a cool ship being attacked by generic warriors. LameBeard, Aarik and MithrilForge 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6051346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Will this have the data sheets for the units you can take or will I need the codex/app for those? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6051779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 (edited) 58 minutes ago, arctic said: Will this have the data sheets for the units you can take or will I need the codex/app for those? You'll need the codex and app for that, or the PDF index if they haven't gotten a codex yet. Edited July 24 by DemonGSides Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6051787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningClawLeonard Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Looks like this month's White Dwarf shows most of the detachments (43 of 55) that will be in the supplement. Also, this is coming up for pre-order this weekend. Anyone have an idea if a different price could be expected here given it is a softcover book? It is 296 pages, so I could see it still being the same as the standard codex price, or nearly there. WAR and Rhavien 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6054939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 my estimated guess is $65 usd LightningClawLeonard and DemonGSides 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6054941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusted Boltgun Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Someone has posted a screenshot of the pricing as 55 Euros. (I'd link it but I'm using a phone and not that skilled). I don't know how that typically translates for GW into GBP, USD, etc. A shame it is a softcover, the photos look like a normal hardcover and it would look better on the show alongside the rules and codexes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6054944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningClawLeonard Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 22 minutes ago, Rusted Boltgun said: Someone has posted a screenshot of the pricing as 55 Euros. (I'd link it but I'm using a phone and not that skilled). I don't know how that typically translates for GW into GBP, USD, etc. A shame it is a softcover, the photos look like a normal hardcover and it would look better on the show alongside the rules and codexes. Comparing the price for the 10th Ed Core Rule book on the US site vs the German site, 55 Euros equates to $65. I agree, it is bummer that it'll be a softcover rules book next to a bunch of hardcovers on the shelf, especially since it comes at a hardcover price point. Rusted Boltgun and WAR 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6054950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentOne Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Really excited about the SoS (Talons) Blackship Guardians and the Drukhari Kabalite Corsairs and Pain Bringers. Thought briefly about picking up the Pariah Nexus Crusade book last week, but I'm glad I didn't, because I think this is a better buy for me. I've found Crusade this edition to be ever so slightly more restrained than the previous version... In part because the Core mechanics upon which much of 9th's Crusade was built are gone now; for example, it's hard to have the kind of psychic progression that we had last edition given how sparsity of 10th's core psychic rules. By contrast, this book seems to have a richness of content for all factions at small point games- which are my favourite scale to play. I am concerned about reprinted WD content where the missions and other rules are concerned, but as far as I know, the detachment content is new? It certainly hasn't been printed in WD, but I don't know if there were downloadable Boarding Patrol Index style default detachments. I thought there was just a short PDF of compatibility tweaks... But I could have missed or overlooked it, and it will certainly be taken down in preparation for the book release. ThaneOfTas and WAR 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6054954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 I think the detachments are new because 9th ed detachments were just "Here's the Arks of Omen detatchment, 3x is the max and you need a character to be warlord, otherwise have fun." I would expect these detachments to basically be 10th Ed detachments but with their focus limited to what exists in BP; no vehicle strats, enhancements for the warlord, and detatchment benefits that make sense in a cramped boarding patrol. WAR 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383297-boarding-actions-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6054958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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