Codex: Imperial Agents + Coteaz Reveal + Chamber Militant Battleforces

[El_Dicko]

The combat patrol is a very welcome surprise!

[Robbienw]

17 minutes ago, ZeroWolf said:

Till 11th edition when DW get primarifed of course... 

 

DW have been able to use Primaris models for many years FYI.

Edited August 4 by Robbienw

[Xirix]

1 hour ago, Emperor Ming said:

Why is the navy detachment led by a rouge trader

 

 

Because the Navy trade a lot of rouge on shore leave, so they kept one of the lovely girls around?

[mecanojavi99]

8 minutes ago, Robbienw said:

 

DW have been able to use Primaris models for many years FYI.

Pretty sure he meant Deathwatch specific units like Veterans.

[irlLordy]

I wonder if the Guard regimental attaches will be redone in plastic for their codex. They're still metal, and the officer of the fleet could go in nicely as a leader for navy breachers/voidsmen.

[mecanojavi99]

22 minutes ago, Nephaston said:

DW are likely, but GK are already Marines+1. I just hope the eventual GK refresh starts with terminators, the only armour for the warriors of Titan in my book.

Based on Crowe it's safe to assume that no, GK won't be primarised.

 

Which is fine, since as you say they are already "better marines", they just need to be brought up to scale with modern minis.

 

And the baby carrier being replaced with something that doesn't look like a Reddit joke.

[Doghouse]

I think the downside for me is that they keep repackaging the same old minis from the likes of Blackstone Fortress and Kill team.

 

I think overall that the idea of this Codex is one hundred per cent up my street and I can feel it tugging at me to return to 40k but I think I will wait for the reviews next week before dipping my toe back in the purified holy water.  It all depends on what units you can combine to be honest, I know I will get my hopes up at the thought of a free for all smorgasbord of unit combos only to find it's more of a case of if you take A you can't B.

 

I may be tempted to do Hereticus with the Arbites I already have.

[No Foes Remain]

I was going to pick up the Xenos one but the Agents one has tempted me something fierce, moreso that I can use the arbites as parts for a Venator Necromunda gang I am planning.

[ZeroWolf]

1 hour ago, mecanojavi99 said:

Based on Crowe it's safe to assume that no, GK won't be primarised.

 

Which is fine, since as you say they are already "better marines", they just need to be brought up to scale with modern minis.

 

And the baby carrier being replaced with something that doesn't look like a Reddit joke.

I think it's a shame they aren't getting the refresh treatment this edition but my wallet can wait a few years (always loved the GK terminators when they dropped in 03 but were too pricey for me then)

[Robbienw]

1 hour ago, mecanojavi99 said:

Pretty sure he meant Deathwatch specific units like Veterans.

 

Its still a really nice kit, can't see them wanting to replace it for a while yet.

[Vassakov]

29 minutes ago, ZeroWolf said:

I think it's a shame they aren't getting the refresh treatment this edition but my wallet can wait a few years (always loved the GK terminators when they dropped in 03 but were too pricey for me then)

 

Given that the Grey Knights are getting their own Codex at some point, I wouldn't be surprised if some old stock were being used here.

 

Total speculation but Wrath of The Soul Forged King was about a year before Deathwing Terminators were updated.

[DemonGSides]

51 minutes ago, ZeroWolf said:

I think it's a shame they aren't getting the refresh treatment this edition but my wallet can wait a few years (always loved the GK terminators when they dropped in 03 but were too pricey for me then)

 

They specifically mentioned that GK are coming next year, which I think squarely lands them in the "Hey, maybe this does get updated" like the Dark Angels and the Blood Angels; they don't need a whole line, GK needs like 3 character updates, and terminator updates.  Give them one fo their non-termi squads at Primaris scale (They can keep with the "It's whatever marine you want it to be", and then they'd be set, which fits pretty much squarely in what the SM updates have been.

I know there's going to be complainers, but Dreadknights are literally fine.  They're stupid, what with the baby carrier aspect, but they're quite well in scale and look fine.

[ZeroWolf]

6 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

 

They specifically mentioned that GK are coming next year, which I think squarely lands them in the "Hey, maybe this does get updated" like the Dark Angels and the Blood Angels; they don't need a whole line, GK needs like 3 character updates, and terminator updates.  Give them one fo their non-termi squads at Primaris scale (They can keep with the "It's whatever marine you want it to be", and then they'd be set, which fits pretty much squarely in what the SM updates have been.

I know there's going to be complainers, but Dreadknights are literally fine.  They're stupid, what with the baby carrier aspect, but they're quite well in scale and look fine.

While things can change current rumours about GK were that they were only getting a dreadknight redo/upgrade (can't remember which) and no refresh, which was what I based that take on. Happy to be wrong as always with it but keep expectations low, and only good things can surprise you.

 

[Gamiel]

3 hours ago, Emperor Ming said:

No they are not

 

I would expect rookies and newbies to associate rouge traders with the navy

Think you missunderstood me. It's established that beside the big navy are there many other navies in the 40k with many rogue traders having their own private navies. 

[sairence]

Also, what other existing model would they use instead? 

[Emperor Ming]

It will be a great shame if Karamazov gets retired,

 

The throne of judgment is such an iconic model. 

[Brother Hellion]

On 7/22/2024 at 10:10 AM, Petitioner's City said:

 

You do know its the original 2003 Daemonhunters codex art by Dainton?

 

 

Lovely to see back :)

So wait a tick? They didn't even commission new cover art for their new codex book? Just slap some old image on a Jpeg file and just print eh?

 

Someone's been too cheap spare some penace for new cover art.

[KaosRaptor]

12 minutes ago, Brother Hellion said:

So wait a tick? They didn't even commission new cover art for their new codex book? Just slap some old image on a Jpeg file and just print eh?

 

Someone's been too cheap spare some penace for new cover art.

Chaos Space Marines had the same codex art for like, three editions I think (6th-8th? correct me if I'm wrong), this isn't new, and there's not really much consistency. Sometimes it's new art, sometimes they dredge up old stuff, sometimes they use stuff from the previous edition.

[Orion]

37 minutes ago, Brother Hellion said:

So wait a tick? They didn't even commission new cover art for their new codex book? Just slap some old image on a Jpeg file and just print eh?

 

Someone's been too cheap spare some penace for new cover art.

Could be worse. Like what they did to GSC

 

I'd rather the old art than say, this:

Edited August 4 by Orion

[librisrouge]

5 hours ago, Emperor Ming said:

No they are not

 

I would expect rookies and newbies to associate rouge traders with the navy

Not all Rogue Traders have an Imperial Navy background but a great many of them work with the IN. Some are scions of trader houses who worked in the navy to gain experience. Some officers and specialists are recruited directly from the IN. Their combat units are trained and equipped in the same manner as the navy.

 

I would only expect rookies and tourists to not know the deep connections between His glorious navy and the houses of the rogue traders.

[phandaal]

5 hours ago, Xirix said:

Because the Navy trade a lot of rouge on shore leave, so they kept one of the lovely girls around?

 

I'm still holding out for the Mascara Trader detachment myself.

[Nephaston]

58 minutes ago, Orion said:

Could be worse. Like what they did to GSC

 

I'd rather the old art than say, this:

I'm more lenient on the new model than the average reaction, but man that art just isn't cutting it.

[Noserenda]

Oooh that combat patrol is very appealing, might pop one on the list when i clear a bit more backlog. Still a bit disappointed we dont have and official Arbites army but thats easy enough to homebrew using the Inquisitor datasheet for a Judge.

I wouldnt use Crowe as any kind of precedent, hes one of the early examples of new minis that could easily be either type of space marine by scale, id be surprised if revamped Grey knights arent the same kind of ambiguous when they get around to them.

[RedFox]

27 datasheets is not that much, can we guess them all?

[brother_b]

They went rogue trader to lead the navy so they wouldn’t have to make a bespoke imperial navy figure to lead them and could just use the rogue trader model, in my opinion.
 

That being said I have the three attaché models for the IG and will use the naval officer as my rogue trader. Bit of an admiral on leave if you will.

Edited August 5 by brother_b