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20 minutes ago, Blindhamster said:

I’m legitimately baffled by anyone calling the captain kit “bland”

My impression of our fandom on the net is that we are very entitled. If it's not exactly what we want to see and then some, we complain. If it's something we dislike it is not just "not our taste", disappointing, or "not that good", it is outrigth bad, if not total trash and we make memes about how terrible it is and how horrible GW are to do this to us.

 

Now the RL fandom don't seem to be this bad but the net version is way to often filled with selfrightous entitlment and/or outrage about anything GW do. 

1 hour ago, Marshal Mittens said:

Wish they had included jump pack options but I like them, either way.

 

I know what you mean but the pose looks all wrong for a Jump Captain with his feet planted. I guess you could put a Jump Pack on him.

 

Alternatively, build him as a foot captain and use the left over parts to decorate a regular Jump Captain and make him more Blood Angely. With multiple heads, shoulder pads and weapons, there should definitely be enough bits.

Edited by Karhedron

Just my opinion - Some 'not bad' detailing..............  But both poses match the continual lack of poise i keep seeing in the newer 40k marines. There was a point more than a few years ago - for me - when the sculptors started getting it right for a bit -Best reference I can give is Geigor Fell hand.

I like the alternative bare head on the Apothecary.

 

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But the new BA accessory sprue comes with plenty of alternatives so we are almost spoilt for choice.

52 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

I like the alternative bare head on the Apothecary.

 

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But the new BA accessory sprue comes with plenty of alternatives so we are almost spoilt for choice.

Yeah this particular head I like a lot

2 hours ago, Karhedron said:

I like the alternative bare head on the Apothecary.

 

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But the new BA accessory sprue comes with plenty of alternatives so we are almost spoilt for choice.

Are there also heads with bionic eyes and or crew cut hairstyles?

I don’t get it, how are people complaining “I don’t like the face” 

 

It’s literally Sanguinius genetic markers on these bare heads I love them all, all very reminiscent of their gene sire

 

some of the OG art of Sanguinius shows him with short blond Curly hair, very Roman-esque. 

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17 minutes ago, INKS said:

I don't like bare heads in general, I like helmets. But I would say and agree that the heads we've seen are very on theme for BA

 

Yeah idk where that poster is seeing people upset about the head sculpts. They've all been excellent. I just wish the upgrade sprue wasn't a DC snarling faces only sprue.

 

Otherwise, head choices have been pretty much perfect. That devilishly handsome SP is legitimately one of the best unhelmeted heads they've ever done. 

1 hour ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

Are there also heads with bionic eyes and or crew cut hairstyles?

 

Every other marine kit to ever exist?

21 hours ago, Nephaston said:

Legends rules will probably be available.

 

I really hope they come to the realisation that they could easily offer character upgrade sprues for stuff like jump packs. Bikes would probably take a specific "Space Marine Officer on Bike" kit though.

One of the beautiful things about the firstborn range is that from 1998 until the advent of the Primaris in 8th, the vast VAST majority of the range wasdesigned to be largely interchagneable . Even before the Ravenwing Command Squad came out, you could easily kitbash most of the standard Command Squad onto bikes. Captains too. Librarians & Techmarines  were harder(though the metal Techmarine torso from the Blood Angels Honour Guard was designed to work with the 3-7th edition plastics including bikes, so that was an option!) , and Chaplains were avialable in the older plastic & metal kits, but the point is that the "YOU CAN'T HAVE THE OPTION IF IT'S NOT IN THE BOX" thing from 8th onwards absolutely is one of the things I struggle with with post 8th ed 40k (and the newer monopose plastic Mk III and VI kits too). I say this because I think the White Scars were the only ones to ever get a Captain/Commander on a bike as an actual "in the box" model, but that was never an issue. I find the similar thing of lack of Jump Packs or Bikes for new characters to streamline everything just a bit disheartening. So even though I don't collect BA, i think the hobby is poorer for the lack of options.

Sorry, rant over. A day may come when I sit down to list every single intercompatible space marine box from the glory days, but it is not this day. I will say the footslogging Sanguinary Priest looks great, and will probably get one to make all ultramarine-y, especially as right handed narthecia in plastic (that are compatible with firstborn) are harder to come by than left-handed ones!

Whilst it was fun to mix and match kits, it made every single unit unremarkable from the next.

 

The entire Marine range was just the same models with different weapons depending on the unit name.

 

Whilst the Primaris offer less customisation, they offer far more variety in form and function. A vast upgrade in terms of how the army functions in a tabletop wargame.

Edited by Orange Knight
27 minutes ago, roryokane said:

One of the beautiful things about the firstborn range is that from 1998 until the advent of the Primaris in 8th, the vast VAST majority of the range wasdesigned to be largely interchagneable . Even before the Ravenwing Command Squad came out, you could easily kitbash most of the standard Command Squad onto bikes. Captains too. Librarians & Techmarines  were harder(though the metal Techmarine torso from the Blood Angels Honour Guard was designed to work with the 3-7th edition plastics including bikes, so that was an option!) , and Chaplains were avialable in the older plastic & metal kits, but the point is that the "YOU CAN'T HAVE THE OPTION IF IT'S NOT IN THE BOX" thing from 8th onwards absolutely is one of the things I struggle with with post 8th ed 40k (and the newer monopose plastic Mk III and VI kits too). I say this because I think the White Scars were the only ones to ever get a Captain/Commander on a bike as an actual "in the box" model, but that was never an issue. I find the similar thing of lack of Jump Packs or Bikes for new characters to streamline everything just a bit disheartening. So even though I don't collect BA, i think the hobby is poorer for the lack of options.

Sorry, rant over. A day may come when I sit down to list every single intercompatible space marine box from the glory days, but it is not this day. I will say the footslogging Sanguinary Priest looks great, and will probably get one to make all ultramarine-y, especially as right handed narthecia in plastic (that are compatible with firstborn) are harder to come by than left-handed ones!

 

GW got bit by the chapterhouse situation and over corrected. It's almost understandable considering IP law is a :cuss: show across most of the world. 

8 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

I’m legitimately baffled by anyone calling the captain kit “bland”

 

right now I’m just feeling impatient to get all the cool things!

 I know right, i wasnt impressed by t he SP however the captain looks amazing.  And its been stated before this could be a Cpt TYCHO not TYCHO.  Remember you can never have to many Captains.

3 hours ago, Alternis said:

I don’t get it, how are people complaining “I don’t like the face” 

 

It’s literally Sanguinius genetic markers on these bare heads I love them all, all very reminiscent of their gene sire

 

some of the OG art of Sanguinius shows him with short blond Curly hair, very Roman-esque. 

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I don't particularly like how the face has been painted on one of the Sanguinary priests. The shading looks far to harsh under his cheek and around the eyes, which makes him look gaunt and ill.

 

I like all of our new head sculpts that we've seen, just some of the painting looks a little off.

21 minutes ago, Beef said:

 I know right, i wasnt impressed by t he SP however the captain looks amazing.  And its been stated before this could be a Cpt TYCHO not TYCHO.  Remember you can never have to many Captains.

The gold one is very heavily inspired by the original tycho model - the blood drips from the wings are almost identical.
 

Spoiler

Warhammer 40k Blood Angels Captain Tycho Pro Painted - Etsy UK

 

3 hours ago, DemonGSides said:

GW got bit by the chapterhouse situation and over corrected. It's almost understandable considering IP law is a :cuss: show across most of the world. 

And yet, 30k is still full of data sheets that they don't sell specific models for, or weapon options that don't come in the kit. So clearly they can't be that concerned.

I think they went full AOS with 40K, dumbing down options and builds in the process, and then pulling the granularity of points.


I liked it the old system better. Just my opinion. I think 30k is obviously much more like what 40K up to 9th was.

1 hour ago, brother_b said:

I think they went full AOS with 40K, dumbing down options and builds in the process, and then pulling the granularity of points.


I liked it the old system better. Just my opinion. I think 30k is obviously much more like what 40K up to 9th was.

I personally like how AoS does things more than 40k, in that the Sigmar team has a clear grasp of how to balance things and what each unit and faction does, moreso than 40k does.

 

That said, I also do like Heresy more than 40k, for that same reason, although I think it's more like 40k up to 6th/7th.

I don’t think I’ll take more then 1 each 

the lack of a jump pack on the SP in particular is a bad point for me, but I’ll run one regardless it’s a gorgeous model. 
 

the Captain I’ll take for flavours sake on viewing, but whether I’ll play him regularly depends entirely if he gets a new rule set 

 

god knows BA has been dying for a CP generating unit, we are the most CP starved imperial faction.

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