Helias_Tancred Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 One of the things I've been running into are the rules regarding marshals vs captains, and castellans vs lieutenants. For example I like to run my marshal with my company heroes, but as per BT rules company heroes is not listed as a unit that marshals can lead, so I have to run my marshal as a space marine captain in those situations. Does that really affect anything else at that point, such as my Righteous Crusaders detachment, which is the detachment I always use. Also with load outs. I have two versions of my marshal, one with master-crafted power sword + plasma pistol (BT rules legit) and one with powerfist + plasma pistol, which is not BT rules legit for a marshal. I have to run him as a space marine captain in that version. Sorta similar with castellans and space marine lieutenants. I have two castellans built and painted, but one is not legit as per the BT rules because he has a plasma pistol, so when I run him he is by the rules a space marine lieutenant. At the end of the day Marshals and Castellans have the same unit abilities as their space marine peers, captains and lieutenants. lol. So its a fairly interchangeable thing? Is there anything I have to watch out for that maybe I'm missing, or overlooking? Thanks. DemonGSides 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383457-the-marshal-and-castellan-rules-blues/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) Marshals are captains; check their keywords on the app, one is Captain. So they can slot into Company Heroes no problem. A powerfist IS a powerweapon, so that's kinda fudge-able in the current rules where things have broader meanings as far as your second marshal being out of spec. That being said, since there's not much of a difference, I wouldn't be mad for you using the weapon stats for one for the other. Like the LT gear on your Castellan, or captain gear on Marshall. There's really no difference between the datasheets from what I can see besides wargear. In the BT Supplement that'll eventually come out, I'm sure you'll be reigned in to no LT's and No Captains, but for now, have at it! Probably wouldn't fly at a tournament, but in a friendly game I don't see the issue. Edited August 12 by DemonGSides Helias_Tancred and CastellanDeMolay 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383457-the-marshal-and-castellan-rules-blues/#findComment-6055546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted August 12 Author Share Posted August 12 Thanks! ... yeah I just play against several of my good friends that are also into 40k ... casual games. DemonGSides 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383457-the-marshal-and-castellan-rules-blues/#findComment-6055552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastellanDeMolay Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Unless you're playing in a tournament, or practicing for one, then there's really no need to be anal about the distinction between functionally identical units with slightly different wargear. The rules are a starting point from which you can make your own fun, not some inviolable law. Brother Carpenter and Helias_Tancred 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383457-the-marshal-and-castellan-rules-blues/#findComment-6055997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helbrechts_Sword_Servitor Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 There's a thing about the Marshall that I like: he can take the combi-weapon, while the captain can't. Thus, I'm still using my old one on a big base: Helias_Tancred, templargdt and redmapa 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383457-the-marshal-and-castellan-rules-blues/#findComment-6056232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted August 15 Author Share Posted August 15 I love combi-weapons, still do but ... I will be eagerly awaiting a rules change for them ;) ... hence why I saved all of my sternguard kit extra bits lol. The new one comes with 6 combi weapons, 2 each of flamer, melta, and plasma. 0 grav unfortunately. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383457-the-marshal-and-castellan-rules-blues/#findComment-6056857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helbrechts_Sword_Servitor Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 I love combi-weapons, still do but ... I will be eagerly awaiting a rules change for them ;) ... hence why I saved all of my sternguard kit extra bits lol. The new one comes with 6 combi weapons, 2 each of flamer, melta, and plasma. 0 grav unfortunately. My old sternguard are all on magnets. I'm glad I can run them all with bolters and heavy bolter. Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383457-the-marshal-and-castellan-rules-blues/#findComment-6056874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 How did they screw up Marshals as captains again? Did any of the authors even read the Index Astartes and 4th Edition Codex? Helbrechts_Sword_Servitor and Helias_Tancred 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383457-the-marshal-and-castellan-rules-blues/#findComment-6063525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helbrechts_Sword_Servitor Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Do you guys really think we're gonna lose Captains and Lts. in the future? Did Blood Angels lose their normal apothecaries? Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383457-the-marshal-and-castellan-rules-blues/#findComment-6064228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted September 22 Author Share Posted September 22 To answer to your question, I don't think we will? They are all too close in comparison to really matter. If GW, however, did do that in a future edition, well I'd say the bigger fish are not getting fried on their part. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383457-the-marshal-and-castellan-rules-blues/#findComment-6065934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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