Alternis Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 You could, you know, just paint a different word on there. GW aren't going to come around to your house and give you the tanning of your life if you paint your minis differently. WE CANNOT KNOW THIS FOR SURE! Cenobite Terminator, MadGreek, phandaal and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Banners look silly on the head regardless though. The old kit was a failure for including that head alone. If only the kit had a dozen or so alternate heads you could use instead. Look, the opinion that the scroll on the head is fine - I'm inclined to agree that it's a weird place to have a scroll. But calling the entire kit a failure because of it is hyperbole to a ridiculous level. Especially when you didn't have to use that head if you didn't want to. Blindhamster, DemonGSides, skylerboodie and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoriyaSchism Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Banners look silly on the head regardless though. The old kit was a failure for including that head alone. Good thing the old kit included 9 other heads you could use. It's a shame the STC fragment to replicate that in Primaris kits was lost never to be recovered again. ThaneOfTas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Me when I have to defend GW making the same codex with minor tweaks to get more money: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DaOgZwk9rN8&pp=ygUQbWFsaWJ1IHN0YWN5IGhhdA%3D%3D Hopefully not Lisa Simpson, who is deliberately portrayed as annoying, preachy, and overbearing most of the time. Mr. Smithers seems alright in this clip though. He just wants to get his new doll with a cool hat. Wispy and Emperor Ming 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 For further discussion of BA artistry and craftsmanship. Toxichobbit, jaxom and DemonGSides 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 You could, you know, just paint a different word on there. "FOOL" "FIX ME" "YOUR AD HERE" DemonGSides 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alternis Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 "FOOL" "FIX ME" "YOUR AD HERE" I CAME TO DRINK BLOOD AND KILL HORUS, AND IM ALL OUT OF BLOOD. Kharn13, Doctor Perils, Kastor Krieg and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessCross Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) Hopefully not Lisa Simpson, who is deliberately portrayed as annoying, preachy, and overbearing most of the time. Mr. Smithers seems alright in this clip though. He just wants to get his new doll with a cool hat. Was Lisa wrong in that episode though? If only the kit had a dozen or so alternate heads you could use instead. Look, the opinion that the scroll on the head is fine - I'm inclined to agree that it's a weird place to have a scroll. But calling the entire kit a failure because of it is hyperbole to a ridiculous level. Especially when you didn't have to use that head if you didn't want to. The kit is mostly a failure due to the bizarre proportions and poses to begin with, but it's a bit odd to say I'm hyperbolic when we have people complaining about missing nipples on their power armor. Edited August 14 by HeadlessCross Inquisitor_Lensoven and ThaneOfTas 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Was Lisa wrong in that episode though? The kit is mostly a failure due to the bizarre proportions and poses to begin with, but it's a bit odd to say I'm hyperbolic when we have people complaining about missing nipples on their power armor. Honestly I can’t tell any more when people are being serious or joking when they bring up the nipples any more. Cenobite Terminator 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Some people have seen Italian Renaissance art and some people haven't, apparently. Scribe and ThaneOfTas 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 the theory is that the nipples were removed for japanese market purposes, I could see that being true. Scribe, Emperor Ming, Cenobite Terminator and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 The kit is mostly a failure due to the bizarre proportions and poses to begin with, but it's a bit odd to say I'm hyperbolic when we have people complaining about missing nipples on their power armor. That's fair. But also not what you said. Stop moving the goalposts, accept you said something stupid and we can all move on. phandaal and ThaneOfTas 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Some people have seen Italian Renaissance art and some people haven't, apparently. Yes and very little of it is on any armor. In fact most of it is on canvas, or made out of stone. Your personal successors lore is your choice. The kits are made as Blood Angels stuff. How you use them is up to you. Literally look at any art representing even heresy Blood Angels and you'll see a whole lot of bling. I think we are done. And 40K isn’t the heresy now is it? Things change over 10k years. Nice try though. StrangerOrders, DemonGSides and ThaneOfTas 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 the theory is that the nipples were removed for japanese market purposes, I could see that being true. This is very interesting if true. Any source? If this actually is the case, it would show how more mainstream success can have a negative impact in unexpected ways. To "chase the mainstream" GW may well have had to compromise on artistic vision and freedom. Armour with niples on it does have historical precedence after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Ah yes, Games Workshop’s all fronts marketing and advertising campaign in Japan. Cenobite Terminator 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 If this actually is the case, it would show how more mainstream success can have a negative impact in unexpected ways. To "chase the mainstream" GW may well have had to compromise on artistic vision and freedom. Armour with niples on it does have historical precedence after all. Mainstream success will absolutely have a negative impact on the setting, lore, art, and so on. This is practically a guarantee. Evil Eye, Noserenda, SvenIronhand and 11 others 6 7 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Nowadays it seems like we have to undermine the idea of canon itself. Instead of saying the canon changed, we say there never really was a canon in the first place. That seems like something modern as opposed to something driven by nostalgia. Its just a get out of jail free card for the ongoing decline of the lore so that when obviously bad novels or GW proper introduce terrible lore, GW can brush it off complaints. Wispy, Cenobite Terminator, phandaal and 4 others 5 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessCross Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Some people have seen Italian Renaissance art and some people haven't, apparently. That doesn't make it look good on power armor though. Quite frankly it never has. ThaneOfTas and Oxydo 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 And 40K isn’t the heresy now is it? Things change over 10k years. Nice try though. This is why talking to you is impossible. Just rude, completely ignoring the context of the post, and you're wrong on top of all of that. That doesn't make it look good on power armor though. Quite frankly it never has. We call those opinions, in normal circles. Antarius, StrangerOrders, Scribe and 4 others 1 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 And 40K isn’t the heresy now is it? Things change over 10k years. Nice try though. A bunch of Primarch's running around, universal war between marines? Abnett writing the human's as part of the Imperial Cult in The End and the Death? Its all the same at this point really, just a few Xeno to account for, but those existed in 30K too. Cenobite Terminator, SvenIronhand, SteveAntilles and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 This is why talking to you is impossible. Just rude, completely ignoring the context of the post, and you're wrong on top of all of that. We call those opinions, in normal circles. I created a whole topic for this discussion. If you have evidence that I’m wrong post it there. in my 4 BA codexes that I have there is no artwork depicting anyone but veterans and chapter leadership in any manner remotely similar to what you describe and advocate for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soviet1337 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 It's to create a bigger market for a nipple upgrade sprue when Emperors Children, erm, come out Xenith, phandaal, Doctor Perils and 2 others 2 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 I created a whole topic for this discussion. If you have evidence that I’m wrong post it there. in my 4 BA codexes that I have there is no artwork depicting anyone but veterans and chapter leadership in any manner remotely similar to what you describe and advocate for. I invite you to look at your own thread about it, and I also invite you to look at "Blood Angels Tactical Squad". That's art directly from the company depicting the bog standard Blood Angel, who's blinged out. I'm sorry you like plain things and chose Blood Angels. It was smart to make your own successor chapter; if you want to be the Modest Angels then that's good for you. But don't act like you're even remotely on point about the plain-ness of BA armor or regalia. ThaneOfTas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 This is a reminder to keep it civil. please. Xenith, WrathOfTheLion and Antarius 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 I invite you to look at your own thread about it, and I also invite you to look at "Blood Angels Tactical Squad". That's art directly from the company depicting the bog standard Blood Angel, who's blinged out. I'm sorry you like plain things and chose Blood Angels. It was smart to make your own successor chapter; if you want to be the Modest Angels then that's good for you. But don't act like you're even remotely on point about the plain-ness of BA armor or regalia. Im not cluttering up this thread with this when there’s another whole thread for this specific topic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383462-sanguinor-and-sanguinary-guard/page/21/#findComment-6056717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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