Jump to content

Sanguinor and Sanguinary Guard

Joe
 Share

Recommended Posts

CL_Mission Battle-Brother

CL_Mission

Posted
Posted (edited)

I'm typically a big fan of big dumb banners in 40k but looking back at the old Sanguinary guard I think I prefer the smaller banner design of the new ones because of them being jump troops. This is the 40k universe so of course rule of cool is king and the laws of physics need not apply but when I imagine these warrior flying through the air I can't help see the classic style banner looking a little clumsy/inelegant (the banner would probably spend most of it's time wrapped around the pole), the new style banner is more suited to the kind movement these guys would be making. That said I think they could show it off a little better, the bearer should be leading with it. It could use some more detail too, something like the Ravenwing banner perhaps.

Edited by CL_Mission
Indy Techwisp Battle-Brother

Indy Techwisp

Posted
Posted

Being realistic here, I have a question to the people who don't like the Sangy Guard:

 

If the kit was the exact same as we see here, but with the option to put wings on them, would that be better?

No other changes, just Wings in the box.

Orion Battle-Brother

Orion

Posted
Posted

I feel like looking up what people have done to upscale the current Sang Guard really show some areas lacking on the new ones.

I felt the same looking at firstborn jump packs on standard assault intercessors (compared to jump intercessors)

image.thumb.png.34c6bf14644a9d67814b16ca054c26e3.png

Source https://www.facebook.com/LegalizedMischiefProductions

 

DemonGSides Battle-Brother

DemonGSides

Posted
Posted
 

Being realistic here, I have a question to the people who don't like the Sangy Guard:

 

If the kit was the exact same as we see here, but with the option to put wings on them, would that be better?

No other changes, just Wings in the box.

 

No.

 

They look fat and squat. These guys are cousins to the new Custodes captain.

 

I want me SG to be svelte and swift. They're the best of the best and flying troops.

Toxichobbit Venerable Brother

Toxichobbit

Posted
Posted
 

Being realistic here, I have a question to the people who don't like the Sangy Guard:

 

If the kit was the exact same as we see here, but with the option to put wings on them, would that be better?

No other changes, just Wings in the box.

 

I'd still dislike them. It's their thickness and the helmets that I dislike - as has been said numerous times they look very Stormcast. And not in a good way, they look like the older fatcast rather than the new sveltecast. The wings I don't care about, though I do recognise that the wings were a very distinct part of their identity so can understand why others would be disappointed that they are no longer part of the kit.

Redcomet Battle-Brother

Redcomet

Posted
Posted (edited)
 

Being realistic here, I have a question to the people who don't like the Sangy Guard:

 

If the kit was the exact same as we see here, but with the option to put wings on them, would that be better?

No other changes, just Wings in the box.

No.

 

There is something off about the body, like it is too wide. But the main culprit for me is the poses. They just don’t make sense. Oddly undynamic for dynamic miniatures, and the way they hold their melee weapons are strange

 

In comparison to the new flying stormcast they are vastly inferior in every way.

Edited by Redcomet
Matrindur Battle-Brother

Matrindur

Posted
Posted
 

Being realistic here, I have a question to the people who don't like the Sangy Guard:

 

If the kit was the exact same as we see here, but with the option to put wings on them, would that be better?

No other changes, just Wings in the box.

 

Still wouldn't really be what I wanted but better for sure. My main problem isn't their thickness or the helmets (though those certainly don't help) but that they are just incredibly boring. They simply have no flavor and wings would give them something at least

Halandaar Venerable Brother

Halandaar

Posted
Posted
 

Being realistic here, I have a question to the people who don't like the Sangy Guard:

 

If the kit was the exact same as we see here, but with the option to put wings on them, would that be better?

No other changes, just Wings in the box.

 

It would be better, but not so much better that it'd make them good.

 

They have several issues aside from lack of wings and one of those (the change to Primaris twin-engined jump packs) actively makes putting wings on them harder as it's encroaching on their space - notice Astorath and the Sanguinor both still have single-engine packs to accommodate their wings.

DemonGSides Battle-Brother

DemonGSides

Posted
Posted
 

I have another serious, realistic question for everyone here:

 

Why do you think GW is nerfing Space Marine nipple armor?

 

Honestly if these guys all had nipples I'd be more forgiving. Seems stupid, but it's true.

 

There's just 0 risk in these minis. They are just so boring. Sanguinor being just a slight size upgrade is so boring. The new Sanguinary guard just being a triple captain box with less bits is boring. 

Indy Techwisp Battle-Brother

Indy Techwisp

Posted
Posted
 

I have another serious, realistic question for everyone here:

 

Why do you think GW is nerfing Space Marine nipple armor?

 

People meme'd too hard when the cover art of one of the Ahriman Books gave him, quote, "Big Naturals", so to punish us they took all the Marine nipples away.

Redcomet Battle-Brother

Redcomet

Posted
Posted
 

I have another serious, realistic question for everyone here:

 

Why do you think GW is nerfing Space Marine nipple armor?

 

Maybe they saw all the nipple jokes and memes, and concluded that fun isn’t allowed in 40k

Toxichobbit Venerable Brother

Toxichobbit

Posted
Posted
 

I have another serious, realistic question for everyone here:

 

Why do you think GW is nerfing Space Marine nipple armor?

 

Equality.

 

Sisters don't have nipples on their armour. Why should Astartes get them?

 

Also, someone at GW was recently re-traumatised by the late 1990s Batman films.

Xenith Venerable Brother

Xenith

Posted
Posted
 

I have another serious, realistic question for everyone here:

 

Why do you think GW is nerfing Space Marine nipple armor?

 

To target asian audiences. I recall video games used to have to remove male characters nipples to get around Chinese/Japanese censors. 

Orion Battle-Brother

Orion

Posted
Posted (edited)

Why did they remove the single edged swords?

 

image.thumb.png.e310fb8e15473794f72fcf3de52e5b70.png

 

GW's miniature design studio seems to really dislike single edged swords, when marines used to have them a fair bit, many years ago.

Edited by Orion
apostle85 Veteran

apostle85

Posted
Posted
 

I'm typically a big fan of big dumb banners in 40k but looking back at the old Sanguinary guard I think I prefer the smaller banner design of the new ones because of them being jump troops. This is the 40k universe so of course rule of cool is king and the laws of physics need not apply but when I imagine these warrior flying through the air I can't help see the classic style banner looking a little clumsy/inelegant (the banner would probably spend most of it's time wrapped around the pole), the new style banner it more suited to the kind movement these guys would be making. That said I think they could show it off a little better, the bearer should be leading with it. It could use some more detail too, something like the Ravenwing banner perhaps.

I never really gave it much thought before, but now reading this the big banner with the SG or even the old metal honor guard before them really does kind of fly in the face of basic physics.

that being said it leaves me with a question now. Since it really doesn’t make sense to go with the SG who should be carrying the chapter banner? 

Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla Battle-Brother

Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla

Posted
Posted

Sanguior definetly has the chad chin, but I never liked the idea of this character so I'd say that it's a reasonable upgrade. Excepts the wings. They look so artificial compared to the old ones.

 

The SG on the other hand...

There are some pluses: no nipples; no calf thrusters like on JP Intercessors; spears and swords look nice. Never was a fan of the wings, so whatever.

 

But overall a downgrade. Death masks are horrible. I wasn't sold on the old ones, but I can barely look on those. And instead of 5 models with plethora of details on the armour, on the helmets, on the pads and the weapons which made each model different and stand out, we get 3 identical guys. Identical! Even the death masks! Zero individuality, just bland uniformity. Soulless. Those are supposed to be greatest heroes of the chapter, each filling in for countless predecessors, their armours relics of the HH. Why don't they have the same single thruster j-packs as Sanguinor, what would provide a visual link with the old figs and HH Mk.IV armour?  The banner is a bad joke. Look on the art, on the old one. Where did this one come from? Why is inferno pistol not wrist mounted like Angelus Boltguns?

 

And since when are SG in the 3rd Company?

 

Indy Techwisp Battle-Brother

Indy Techwisp

Posted
Posted
 

I'm so dissapointed. Looks like Coteaz was the warm up. How have the reduced the level of and crispness of the detail after 14 years?

 

Coteaz looks like he was designed by the same person who made Gen 1 Stormcast.

 

The Sangy Guard look like they were designed by people who made the JPAI and weren't givien the current Sangy Guard kit as a reference.

MoriyaSchism Battle-Brother

MoriyaSchism

Posted
Posted
 

Being realistic here, I have a question to the people who don't like the Sangy Guard:

 

If the kit was the exact same as we see here, but with the option to put wings on them, would that be better?

No other changes, just Wings in the box.

No, it would be the same awful thing but with wings. My issues with this kit are the ridiculous helmets that look nothing like the death masks from the old kit, the lack of ornate pauldrons, the removal of Encarmine weapons, clumsy heroic rock poses, the new Primaris jump packs, the spear looking exactly like a power sword on a stick instead of a proper spear and the fact there is only five of them. The armour doesn't look right either.

Orange Knight Veteran

Orange Knight

Posted
Posted
 

I have another serious, realistic question for everyone here:

 

Why do you think GW is nerfing Space Marine nipple armor?

 

Historically people have loudly ridiculed it. Never a problem from my point of view.

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.

  I accept