Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 I know the video games don’t necessarily reflect the tabletop, as is or what’s to come, but watching a video about all weapons in SM2, and the gravis class gets a heavy plasma incinerator. a gravis squad with hvy plasma incinerators, and maybe one dude with some sort of plasma grenade launcher or something like the fragstorm seems like it would be pretty dope. Iron Father Ferrum, Helias_Tancred and Dark Shepherd 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawnis Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 On the tabletop, that's pretty much covered by the Inceptors. Cenobite Terminator 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6056602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 I think the only Gravis Plasma option available is the Inceptor's Plasma Exterminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6056604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted August 14 Author Share Posted August 14 On the tabletop, that's pretty much covered by the Inceptors. It is sorta. id like a longer range option that hits a slight bit harder personally. A plasma eradicator unit if you will. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6056623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessCross Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 I know the video games don’t necessarily reflect the tabletop, as is or what’s to come, but watching a video about all weapons in SM2, and the gravis class gets a heavy plasma incinerator. a gravis squad with hvy plasma incinerators, and maybe one dude with some sort of plasma grenade launcher or something like the fragstorm seems like it would be pretty dope. Ultimately that's where the Heavy Intercessors need more than the terrible kit they have provides. That their Sergeant doesn't even have melee weapons is quite frankly a crime. Iron Father Ferrum 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6056630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) We already have a squad who can take Heavy Plasma Incinerators. They're called Hellblasters. Even if GW is currently pretending as of 10th-Ed that they're the exact same weapon as the standard Plasma Incinerator for rules purposes, they're visually still an obvious jump up. Edited August 15 by Lord Nord in Gravis Armour LSM 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6056816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Space marine II also seems to allow the tactical class (so normal mk. X tacticus) to take heavy bolt rifles, the bulkwark (blade guard) has been seen rocking a powerfist etc. But I agree that this sort of weapon freedom would be fun LSM and Inquisitor_Lensoven 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6056912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Space marine II also seems to allow the tactical class (so normal mk. X tacticus) to take heavy bolt rifles, the bulkwark (blade guard) has been seen rocking a powerfist etc. But I agree that this sort of weapon freedom would be fun We used to have it... ThaneOfTas, Marshal Reinhard, HeadlessCross and 1 other 1 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6057328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 We didnt use to have that many variations of bolt weapons no, nor was there an heavy armor class that could take the rough equivalent of a plasma cannon etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6057366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) No, but we did have a tremendous amount of weapons freedom. we have more unit types now, but there was a *ton* of flexibility for each unit. Sure, there were balance issues, but if there was the same amount of tweaking back then as there is now, I'd imagine that wouldn't have been as big an issue. Edited August 17 by Paladin777 ThaneOfTas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6057418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Dons tin foil hat I personally think that GW had been planning on getting rid of points granularity all the way back when primaris units were first introduced in 8th. Power Level was a sort of 'testing the waters.' removes tin foil hat ThaneOfTas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6057420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Dons tin foil hat I personally think that GW had been planning on getting rid of points granularity all the way back when primaris units were first introduced in 8th. Power Level was a sort of 'testing the waters.' removes tin foil hat Dons tin foil hat I think the guy who came up with Power Level got shuffled onto the Core Rules team for this edition and decided that the only reason we all thought PL sucked was because we hadn't used it enough and so the forced it in as the only points system. Doffs tin foil hat ThaneOfTas and Inquisitor_Lensoven 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6057496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessCross Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Dons tin foil hat I personally think that GW had been planning on getting rid of points granularity all the way back when primaris units were first introduced in 8th. Power Level was a sort of 'testing the waters.' removes tin foil hat PL was the brain child of a certain rules writer that thinks, since his kid in particular thinks math is hard, adding is hard for everyone. ThaneOfTas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6058325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 Dons tin foil hat I think the guy who came up with Power Level got shuffled onto the Core Rules team for this edition and decided that the only reason we all thought PL sucked was because we hadn't used it enough and so the forced it in as the only points system. Doffs tin foil hat +1 for use of doff. PL was the brain child of a certain rules writer that thinks, since his kid in particular thinks math is hard, adding is hard for everyone. Hey! I’m not related to any rules writers at GW!(that I know of) ThaneOfTas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6058352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 As per the OP .... agreed. Honestly I'd like to see a gravis armor unit using some sort of heavy grav weapon even moreso than heavy plasma. ThaneOfTas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6058356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 As per the OP .... agreed. Honestly I'd like to see a gravis armor unit using some sort of heavy grav weapon even moreso than heavy plasma. They introduced grav weapons while I was away from the hobby so I don’t really have any love for them lol Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6058373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Time to expand your horizons lol. ThaneOfTas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6058379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 Time to expand your horizons lol. Boo! A narrow mind leaves little room for the ruinous powers to enter. ThaneOfTas and Helias_Tancred 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383480-gravis-plasma-option/#findComment-6058437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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