New Amazon Prime Series will have an episode depicting Titus in SM2

[DuskRaider]

 

Yeah, who am I fooling? I may sour-grapes a lot, but I'm probably going to watch all of it, and while I might have liked to see something more off the beaten path, I'm sure it'll be good. Just like I watched Blood Angels for the 'Stealers, I will watch this for Nids and Tzeentch.

 

I know that any mass market 40k product has to include marines, because they are a great hook for people just entering the hobby- it's where most of us start even if it's not where all of us end up. You just can't hold a grudge against marines, because it is true that the game can't exist without them. But I had hoped for a story about a mixed Solblade, you know? Many of those were mixed battlegroups, so you still get your marines, but they come with a side order of Sisters, Guard, Custodes, Mechanicus or Agents. The Pariah show was awesome BECAUSE it showcased the many faces of human and post-human. I loved that Salamander guy... But it never would have worked for me if the Sister and the Guard hadn't been there to provide contrast to the post-humanity of the marine.

 

I also have a thing for female protagonists, and you aren't getting one in a show called Space Marine, though the ship commander in Blood Angels was a nice touch to add depth to the allied forces.

I think you have a chance at something more human-centric like Rogue Traders or Inquisition, but there’s no way that they could do a 40K series without at least some Astartes present.
 

Let’s be honest, if a show was released and there was a distinct lack of Marines of the Space variety, it would do poorly. Both Games Workshop and Amazon (or whomever they partner with) would be foolish to avoid their biggest money making faction. My concern is it would unfortunately be Primaris. 

[Alby the Slayer]

One or few space marines would be great for a story focusing on humans in generals (soldiers inquisitions, rogue traders.etc.).

 

These are almost mythological figures. To see one in person is something rare. I do hope they will give them this kind of obscure godlike aura in a show.

[sbarnby71]

I know it's a pointless wish, but wow wouldn't it be great if we saw something that was not Ultramarines based.

[Vassakov]

 

I know it's a pointless wish, but wow wouldn't it be great if we saw something that was not Ultramarines based.

 

Like the Blood Angels, Salamanders or the Inquisition?

[ZeroWolf]

 

I know it's a pointless wish, but wow wouldn't it be great if we saw something that was not Ultramarines based.

Given that its a tie in to the SMII game, it was never going to not be an UM. From a marketing perspective, it makes sense as it aligns to the first thing many customers see when looking at space marine boxes. 

 

With any luck if the main deal between Amazon and GW bears fruit, we could get an anthology show that focuses on different chapters (sort of a cheat sheet on them for beginners maybe, showcasing what makes them, well, them.) There's a lot of stars that need to align for that though admittedly.

[DuskRaider]

 

I know it's a pointless wish, but wow wouldn't it be great if we saw something that was not Ultramarines based.

I used to loathe the Ultramarines, but after reading the HH books, especially those focus on the Shadow Crusade, it gave me a new appreciation for them. So did the first Space Marine game, for that matter. 
 

When I saw the preview for this series, it induced excitement in me, not a groan… and I’m a Chaos player lol. 

[Carach]

 

One or few space marines would be great for a story focusing on humans in generals (soldiers inquisitions, rogue traders.etc.).

 

These are almost mythological figures. To see one in person is something rare. I do hope they will give them this kind of obscure godlike aura in a show.

 

That'll likely be for the actual Amazon tv show stuff, separate from this one single episode thing. 

 

There are a near infinite number of stories to tell when it comes to 40k that dont include marines, but i've suggested in the past that if one must include them (and I suppose they must), they should, as you say, appear godlike and thus be used sparingly - in a sudden, mid-late introduction of ultra-violent badassery that leaves viewers sat in awe of wth just happened.

 

There is a novel - Kill Team by Gav Thorpe iirc - that has a bit of all wh40k has to offer and is largely self-contained; prison "we need you for a mission" stuff, pick a band of misfits to go infiltrate a strange alien race (Tau) with whiffs of Inquisition - who employ a particular chap when stuff goes awry, and very much provides that "omg what did i just witness" effect. 

 

It's probably what I would choose for a quick film. 

 

 

Edited August 23 by Carach

[Orange Knight]

I really like the use of Marines in the original Eisenhorn novel. They appear briefly at the end, in limited numbers, to deal with some crazy stuff.

 

I also love the portrayal in the original cinematic trailer for Space Marine 2. The guardsmen are being slaughtered by Nids, some hiding in terror, then 3 Space Marines jump out of a Thunderhawk gunship and in seconds they cut the foul Xenos down. After that they simply walk past the Guardsmen without a second thought.

 

They absolutely should be used sparingly. Their impact should be massive. They story should not revolve around them.

[ThePenitentOne]

And it sounds like that's exactly the type of thing that the new Agents  dex facilitates- Ten DW Vets, a Watchmaster and a Xenos Inquisitor (possibly Eisenhorn himself) drop by in a Blackstar coming in from reserves on turn 2 or 3 to save the day. Custom scenario with a game-based trigger for the arrival from reserves.

 

I think mixed armies are awesome in controlled narrative games with like minded players. 8th ed's CP for detachments was problematic, but I think that 9th's iteration was solid. Fielding allied detachments where each sub-army got to keep it's own detachment rules felt like a story to me; this business of allied forces having to become "less good" when they team up is an abstraction, I get that GW don't want multiple sets of detachment rules in play at a time, but that's the only way that it reflects the actual circumstances of the battle.

[Joe]

Further information regarding the Warhammer 40,000 episode; it's set after the end of Space Marine II. Fairly certain we'd inferred that by now.

[darkhorse0607]

From the guy who did the DoW cinematic? Sign me up

[INKS]

shame it's only one episode, you'll just get into it and it'll be over. hopefully it does well and it means more to come

[Tastyfish]

16 hours ago, darkhorse0607 said:

From the guy who did the DoW cinematic? Sign me up

 

I love that I think this is probably going to be the consensus, meanwhile the poor "Director of Deadpool" is going to be metaphorically sitting at the desk next to this guy looking over at the over line thinking "wait what, they're all here for the cutscene guy?".

[Carach]

Some blasts from the past re-connecting with WH40K - OG DoW cinematic dude for this, The Lord Inquisitor guy headed up the recent Deathwatch vignette, too.

 

I had wondered if/when the latter might resurface, what with the U-turn in GW's policies on animation since his go at things way back when.

 

 

 

 

[Taliesin]

New trailer

 

 

[Carach]

Was looking for reddit posts regarding the new trailer and found some guy on a sub called 'HorusGalaxy' getting his knickers in a twist over the fact there's a coloured Space Marine. 

 

Apparently they're everywhere now, and he is genuinely concerned Titus may be race-replaced. 

 

What is wrong with people? 

 

Anyway, that aside; The show looks great and I am looking forward to the UT and Armoured Core episodes as well as the obvious WH40K (which the clips we have seen so far look fab) - I don't know some of the other franchises very well, but Sifu looks like it will be an interesting one.

 

 

[DemonGSides]

3 hours ago, Carach said:

Was looking for reddit posts regarding the new trailer and found some guy on a sub called 'HorusGalaxy' getting his knickers in a twist over the fact there's a coloured Space Marine. 

 

Apparently they're everywhere now, and he is genuinely concerned Titus may be race-replaced. 

 

What is wrong with people? 

 

Anyway, that aside; The show looks great and I am looking forward to the UT and Armoured Core episodes as well as the obvious WH40K (which the clips we have seen so far look fab) - I don't know some of the other franchises very well, but Sifu looks like it will be an interesting one.

 

You can confidently ignore 99% of reddit, but you can very much ignore 100% of that HorusGalaxy.  They split off when the mainline 40k sub told them in no uncertain terms that Warhammer is for everyone.

 

Edited November 14 by Dr_Ruminahui
Removed inflammatory content

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

On 10/19/2024 at 4:58 PM, Joe said:

Further information regarding the Warhammer 40,000 episode; it's set after the end of Space Marine II. Fairly certain we'd inferred that by now.

 

No need to rely on our inference - it was outright stated by WarCom themselves almost a month ago:

 

Secret Level Warhammer Animation news out of New York Comic Con

 

It’s a sequel to Space Marine 2

Yes, that’s Titus and what’s that fancy laurel on his helmet? If you’ve completed the game, then you already know! This animation follows the conclusion of the video game like a… secret level.

[Bryan Blaire]

3 hours ago, Carach said:

Was looking for reddit posts regarding the new trailer and found some guy on a sub called 'HorusGalaxy' getting his knickers in a twist over the fact there's a coloured Space Marine. 

 

Apparently they're everywhere now, and he is genuinely concerned Titus may be race-replaced. 

 

What is wrong with people? 

 

Anyway, that aside; The show looks great and I am looking forward to the UT and Armoured Core episodes as well as the obvious WH40K (which the clips we have seen so far look fab) - I don't know some of the other franchises very well, but Sifu looks like it will be an interesting one.

 

 

All Marines have an organ that adjusts their melanin - the Melanochrome.  It controls the level of melanin in a Marine’s skin and automatically darkens the Marine’s skin in response to exposure to high levels of “sunlight” (I’m assuming this is relational to the Sol system’s main star).  Any given Marine gets auto-adjusted in their skin pigmentation - anyone not knowing that or having an issue with it doesn’t know the Warhammer 40K universe or Space Marines very well and their outrage can be summarily ignored until they educate themselves.

 

That said, it would actually be extremely cool to see the Melanochrome function on screen - give us an idea of the swiftness the organ can react to needing to increase or decrease melanin levels.  I’ve always assumed a low-end space magic for that organ: it takes a while and has a specific limit on the level of change that can occur, but would be interesting to know how GW views/approves that to be more swift or have extreme swings in skin pigmentation.

Edited November 14 by Bryan Blaire

[Joe]

9 hours ago, Lord Nord in Gravis Armour said:

 

No need to rely on our inference - it was outright stated by WarCom themselves almost a month ago:

 

Secret Level Warhammer Animation news out of New York Comic Con

 

It’s a sequel to Space Marine 2

Yes, that’s Titus and what’s that fancy laurel on his helmet? If you’ve completed the game, then you already know! This animation follows the conclusion of the video game like a… secret level.

 

A month later and you're... quoting me to repeat exactly what I said? Bold, I'll give you that. 

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

24 minutes ago, Joe said:

 

A month later and you're... quoting me to repeat exactly what I said? Bold, I'll give you that. 

 

"Bold" is one word for it... "Blind" might be more accurate.

 

Yeah, I somehow missed the 4 week gap above Taliesin's post and thought you'd written that today regarding the current article.

[Blindhamster]

14 hours ago, Bryan Blaire said:

All Marines have an organ that adjusts their melanin - the Melanochrome.  It controls the level of melanin in a Marine’s skin and automatically darkens the Marine’s skin in response to exposure to high levels of “sunlight” (I’m assuming this is relational to the Sol system’s main star).  Any given Marine gets auto-adjusted in their skin pigmentation - anyone not knowing that or having an issue with it doesn’t know the Warhammer 40K universe or Space Marines very well and their outrage can be summarily ignored until they educate themselves.

 

That said, it would actually be extremely cool to see the Melanochrome function on screen - give us an idea of the swiftness the organ can react to needing to increase or decrease melanin levels.  I’ve always assumed a low-end space magic for that organ: it takes a while and has a specific limit on the level of change that can occur, but would be interesting to know how GW views/approves that to be more swift or have extreme swings in skin pigmentation.

i always assumed it’s fast acting because of it isn’t, it wouldn’t be very effective. But I also always assumed that the actual effect wouldn’t be extreme. Nor would it change the base humans skin tone baseline. I.e. someone that was pale would be pale after elevation still and the organ would kick in more frequently, not making them become dark skinned but causing an effect like a strong tan in moments. Where someone that was dark skinned would remain dark skinned, their skin only getting darker rarely when levels of sun radiation are extreme but also likely not getting lighter than baseline.

 

i too would be interested to see how it would be depicted in practice

[DemonGSides]

The Melanochrome organ being jacked up is why the BA and RG are paler, and why Salamanders are charcoal.

 

Giving more time to people worried about the skin color of their space marines just isn't worth it.  Ban/Ignore and move on.  No one's been converted to a good person over an internet forum lol

Edited November 15 by DemonGSides

[Ammonius]

6 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

i too would be interested to see how it would be depicted in practice

Something cool like a Deathwatch team sweeping an Ork hulk turn a corner and find themselves in a partially shielded reactor room. The unhelmeted Space Wolf winces for a second goes several shades darker over during the next scene. Maybe his Salamander watch brother gives him a wry smile as they move deeper into the hulk.

[Jukkiz]

On 11/14/2024 at 4:19 PM, Carach said:

Was looking for reddit posts regarding the new trailer and found some guy on a sub called 'HorusGalaxy' getting his knickers in a twist over the fact there's a coloured Space Marine. 

 

Apparently they're everywhere now, and he is genuinely concerned Titus may be race-replaced. 

 

What is wrong with people? 

 

Anyway, that aside; The show looks great and I am looking forward to the UT and Armoured Core episodes as well as the obvious WH40K (which the clips we have seen so far look fab) - I don't know some of the other franchises very well, but Sifu looks like it will be an interesting one.

 

 

not to be a BUTT.... But, that certain marine is over 10,000 years old primarinade, as he was taken FROM CALTH as child, when word bearers attacked.  Then made into primarinde adn tossed into statis chamber.