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Mr Farson Venerable Brother

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I also don't think it helps that they skipped the Gencon show

 

Folks, at least the more dedicated (and I only use this term rather than saying obsessed, the people like myself who actually tune into these things at 11pm at night) are used to two big shows for the fall. Gencon and Nova, iirc normally at least one of them give a good amount of solid stuff

 

So when GW skips Gencon for the first time that I can remember (granted my memory isn't long), you'd expect "ok, they're going to stack the Nova reveals"

 

And then this. This and them saying, at least for 40k, there isn't anything else coming. Granted there might be a show with 40k stuff that launches after the new year but I wouldn't count on it

 

Which means, at least for me, all my hopes rest in the Heresy. The game system that missed the melee weapon pack from spring by 6-9 months by the time it actually comes out

I'm pretty sure the content shown for nova was the gencon content. The road maps list ba and dwarves as due out soon when both are released already.

 

I think they cancelled gencon and recycled the show

Mr Farson Venerable Brother

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My GM math might be off, so anyone feel free to correct me, but that’s now 4 months with nothing…unless there’s a previous roadmap that mapped out through December and I’m forgetting about it.

 

This is what's due to release before 2025

 

Big releases

 

Skaven 

 

Stormcast

 

Warriors of chaos

 

New Middle earth edition and stuff

 

 

Medium releases

 

Blood angels general release

 

Kill team hivestorm + associated Kill teams not available separately from this season

 

 

Small releases 

 

30k melee weapons

 

30k special characters (?)

 

Necromunda new gang

 

Slaves to darkness aos

 

That's 10 releases already and not including the holiday army boxes.

 

There's lot coming out it's just not mainline 40k

 

Inquisitor_Lensoven Novitiate

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This is what's due to release before 2025

 

Big releases

 

Skaven 

 

Stormcast

 

Warriors of chaos

 

New Middle earth edition and stuff

 

 

Medium releases

 

Blood angels general release

 

Kill team hivestorm + associated Kill teams not available separately from this season

 

 

Small releases 

 

30k melee weapons

 

30k special characters (?)

 

Necromunda new gang

 

Slaves to darkness aos

 

That's 10 releases already and not including the holiday army boxes.

 

There's lot coming out it's just not mainline 40k

 

Once you know about it, it’s old. 
so again, nothing new for us for 4 months.

ZeroWolf Venerable Brother

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I'm still wondering if the gap existed (this 40k pause will have been decided months, if not a year ago due to their production pipelines) not only due to factory output, but due to the team working on something else.

darkhorse0607 Battle-Brother

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I'm still wondering if the gap existed (this 40k pause will have been decided months, if not a year ago due to their production pipelines) not only due to factory output, but due to the team working on something else.

 

I can't help but wonder if it would have been better to say literally anything else on their part other than "watch the balance" or whatever it was

 

If they say "hey, we have heard you guys about production issues, lack of inventory and feeling like you're being buried in releases that you cannot get. So for the rest of the year we are slowing down, catching up on production and making sure 2025 doesn't have these issues." Then yeah, there might be grumbling but they get the kudos of listening to customers and building that relationship

 

Or

 

"Hey guys, our team is putting a lot of work into next years surprises so we are holding off on the rest of the year because there's something big coming" then, again grumbling, but it builds hype they could lean into

Ahzek451 Veteran

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I can't help but wonder if it would have been better to say literally anything else on their part other than "watch the balance" or whatever it was

 

If they say "hey, we have heard you guys about production issues, lack of inventory and feeling like you're being buried in releases that you cannot get. So for the rest of the year we are slowing down, catching up on production and making sure 2025 doesn't have these issues." Then yeah, there might be grumbling but they get the kudos of listening to customers and building that relationship

 

Or

 

"Hey guys, our team is putting a lot of work into next years surprises so we are holding off on the rest of the year because there's something big coming" then, again grumbling, but it builds hype they could lean into

This makes too much sense, stop now before you wreck the space-time continuum. 

brother_b Veteran

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I’m hyped for Krieg. Roadmap feels weird, obvious production issues, push of games I’m uninterested in (AOS), or love (LOTR) but not in a hurry to “upgrade” as hobby money is getting tight.

 

With this roadmap do we think the 40K releases have been slowed because a whole bunch of new minis are coming out? 
 

I feel maybe, especially as Krieg seems to be popular, and Eldar could use a lot of mini upgrades.

Doghouse Venerable Brother

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If they are slowing it's probably due to allocation of production time, marketing and storage I'd imagine.

 

Bit of an odd one, on the one hand it might be nice to let the pace of releases slow down, especially since the more open talk of piles of shame has become more common place in the last couple of years.

 

On the other, given that editions seem to be much shorter these days it's possible it could impact armies without a codex in that we could see a slew of late edition releases only for 11th to make them obsolete again.

 

Whole affair did seem a bit wishy washy in general.

Chapter Master Valrak Veteran

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Agreed. I'd sure it would be a terrible business decision for GW to side with a content creator that revels in being called "Scamrak" :teehee:

I find it funny that your wild "foilrak" rumour skits are still about as specific as GW's efforts. Wait.... are they getting their intel from you? :blink:

 

The funny thing is, the 'foil' videos were basically me taking the pi$$ out of myself, going so far down the rabbit hole and being deluded  that people wouldn't even think about them being true, just some fun to brighten someone's day, but a small percentage watch them and take everything as 100% fact which is even more hilarious to me :laugh:

Halandaar Venerable Brother

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Is it just me or is it weird that there’s nothing planned to release before 2025?

 

"Nothing" sure is an interesting way to describe two full faction launches for AoS, the Blood Angels wave for 40k, entire new editions of Kill Team and Middle Earth, more Chaos Warriors for Old World, and stuff for  Blood Bowl. 

 

That's before any still-announced releases, which at minimum is Christmas Battleforces and potentially includes everything previously available in a bundle box that still needs a standalone releases. 

 

Like come on, I get that the preview was essentially pointless but this "NoThInG for ThE rEsT oF tHe YeAr" take people keep parroting is demonstrably idiotic. 

 

 

ThePenitentOne Venerable Brother

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Like come on, I get that the preview was essentially pointless but this "NoThInG for ThE rEsT oF tHe YeAr" take people keep parroting is demonstrably idiotic. 

 

 

 

While I agree with you, I think it would have cost GW an extra 10 seconds of video to actually say:

 

"Of course we'll be releasing battleforces at Christmas with x boxes for 40k this year; we'll also be releasing x kill teams as stand-alone units"

 

GW chose not to say that. GW will will suffer the consequences. And maybe the next time GW wants to avoid backlash, they'll remember what an extra ten seconds of audio can do to prevent that sort of thing. 

Petitioner's City Veteran

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GW chose not to say that. GW will will suffer the consequences. And maybe the next time GW wants to avoid backlash, they'll remember what an extra ten seconds of audio can do to prevent that sort of thing. 

 

They "suffer the consequences" til announced, then it's just the usual excitement, and the usual almost selling out instantly on preorder/to trade accounts. GW will do well, as they always do....

INKS

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I don't think it's idiotic. You are adding context, when there wasn't any.  When people are saying nothing for the end of the year they aren't talking about AOS or anything else but 40k, Because that is what they said. BA are coming but we already know that AND it's already been pre ordered. So really you are just waiting for your pre order to fill and or models you already know about  to come onto the market. They couldn't even take the time to say "Christmas battle boxes, or Stand alone releases" They just said... BA and nothing else.

 

So are they releases? yes sure, they are releases. They are releases you know about and are just waiting to hit the shelves because GW purposely drags it out to make it look like they are releasing new stuff and keeping busy. And to be fair to them they are busy behind the scenes working on 40k things. You just won't see any of it until 2025.

 

On top of this - Christmas battle boxes are an assumption based on previous years, GW hasn't announced you are getting this. They haven't announced you are getting anything other than BA for the rest of the year. BA that you have seen and know about. 

 

I have seen some people say, "well there just isn't enough time for another codex" and sorry but that doesn't float, there is plenty of time for 1 more codex before the end of the year, Especially when many of those codices get 1 model released with it.  I guess they just aren't ready to release this. Are Imperial Knights or Chaos knights (as an example) getting a TON of new models? I highly doubt it. What about Daemons? Are they even getting a Codex at this point? And if they did are they getting new models? I doubt it. Those three factions alone hardly ever see updates to their model range. I could be wrong, maybe they will. But I am sure that some of the 14 factions left will see a very limited to almost no update to their model range, and if that is true then that Codex could have been released before the end of the year. Instead, you'll get BA sprinkled in with some releases and you are supposed to be happy with them simply watching the meta - which they do anyways - and worlds - which doesn't interest a lot of players... 

 

The fact is they have released 13 - less than half - Codices for 10th edition. This means in the next year or so they need to release 14 more... they are behind in pace right now. Will they catch up? will they extend the edition to more than 3 years? who knows right now. But taking a 4 month break more or less isn't very inspiring. 

 

I am not even mad in this post - it might come across that way - but that isn't my tone, This is just how I've seen people feel about it, this is how I feel about it. But calling this idea or the statement that nothing is coming for the end of the year isn't idiotic. They are talking about 40k. Not AOS, Or Killteam or ...Middle Earth. 

phandaal Venerable Brother

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They "suffer the consequences" til announced, then it's just the usual excitement, and the usual almost selling out instantly on preorder/to trade accounts. GW will do well, as they always do....

 

Considering that the core issue is people were not shown enough things to buy over the next few months, I would say yes GW will be fine. Once the next model wave comes out it will sell like gangbusters, as is tradition. :laugh:

 

Halandaar Venerable Brother

Halandaar

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I don't think it's idiotic. You are adding context, when there wasn't any.  When people are saying nothing for the end of the year they aren't talking about AOS or anything else but 40k, 

 

Speaking of "adding context", the post I responded to stated - and this is a direct quote - "is it weird that there’s nothing planned to release before 2025?" 

 

It did not say "is it weird that there's nothing planned to release before 2025? Aside from the five major releases across four different systems that we already know about because only things that hadn't already been announced count, for some reason only I know." 

 

Even if the post I was replying to was being made from the point of view that only stuff relating to 40k matters, it's still wrong because there is a full wave of Blood Angels kits still to release within the next few months. The fact that they've already been announced doesn't somehow mean they don't count as releases which need a slot in the schedule. 

 

 

INKS

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Speaking of "adding context", the post I responded to stated - and this is a direct quote - "is it weird that there’s nothing planned to release before 2025?" 

 

It did not say "is it weird that there's nothing planned to release before 2025? Aside from the five major releases across four different systems that we already know about because only things that hadn't already been announced count, for some reason only I know." 

 

Even if the post I was replying to was being made from the point of view that only stuff relating to 40k matters, it's still wrong because there is a full wave of Blood Angels kits still to release within the next few months. The fact that they've already been announced doesn't somehow mean they don't count as releases which need a slot in the schedule. 

 

 

I addressed all of that above. You are technically right and we see BA releases as announced, which we will. Yes those do count and so therefore it's not nothing. That is it. Those are the releases they announced. All of which we know. so no surprises. They are going to take the next 4 months to stretch out models we've all seen. Ok good. Often times when people see the models already revealed that is it. They are released in their minds. Even if they haven't hit the shelves yet (although you could already preorder the codex / army box), so even though they will release throughout the next 4 months, they are written off because they have seen them, they are not interested and nothing else has been announced. 

 

I need to be more clear here because you didn't call any one person this or their statement, you made a blanket statement that anyone who calls it nothing is making an idiotic statement. It might be a wrong or incorrect statement. It comes across kind of rude if nothing else and there are better ways to disagree with a general statement.

 

EDIT: I had to change and move some of the words around because I myself was making some incorrect points about how idiotic was being used here. This wasn't directed at one person but at the general statement of nothing is being released. I still think there are better ways to disagree with such statements without using that word to describe it. It may not be meant to come across as insulting, but it feels a little rude and insulting all the same if you share the opinion that nothing is getting released for the end of the year.

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Magos Takatus Venerable Brother

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The funny thing is, the 'foil' videos were basically me taking the pi$$ out of myself, going so far down the rabbit hole and being deluded  that people wouldn't even think about them being true, just some fun to brighten someone's day, but a small percentage watch them and take everything as 100% fact which is even more hilarious to me :laugh:

Yup, the foilrak videos are some of my favourites, I like that you don't take yourself too seriously.  I also find it funny that you have to preface every rumour you hear with the fact that it's a rumour and not 100% confirmed. Some people take you so literally sometimes. :biggrin:

 

 

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