NOVA Open Preview - August 28th/29th

[Noserenda]

The Night lords will be waiting for a new kill team edition box, so probably soon after that drops

 

[Matrindur]

Except the stormcast reveals at the beginning this whole show felt like meeting a guy at the bar and he just says "I'm under NDA so i can't tell you what exactly but ~stuff is coming~"

 

And then he drinks too much so you leave quickly  before they cause problems

Edited August 29 by Matrindur

[Indy Techwisp]

 

Stu made it seem like Chaos is the third big release, after Eldar. I think Imperial Knights are a gap-codex to come out while AoS is getting a major release; then major 40k release of Chaos.

We'd be on the """""roadmap""""" if that was the case.

Instead we've just got "chaos treats" in tiny text.

There's no confirmation what that actually is and honestly all the cageyness around it plus the fact that some Chaos stuff has missed expected release by a lot already makes me fear that GW have taken those occasional "Xenos should be the main 40k villains, not Chaos" complainers to seriously and all our Cult factions are gonna get turned into Supplements for base CSM again.

[The Yncarne]

 

This is the behavior of a company in a managerial tailspin. Zero concrete plan for the immediate future, everything is up in the air, no product schedule, and no transparency with clients. 

 

Hard to tell if managerial incompetence or just a fear of not saying anything at all. I wonder if the company is just spread too thin and rather than admit it, just say they have little coming.

It feels like Psychic Awakening redux to me.

[INKS]

well knights are generally gap codices. 

[The Yncarne]

 

We'd be on the """""roadmap""""" if that was the case.

Instead we've just got "chaos treats" in tiny text.

There's no confirmation what that actually is and honestly all the cageyness around it plus the fact that some Chaos stuff has missed expected release by a lot already makes me fear that GW have taken those occasional "Xenos should be the main 40k villains, not Chaos" complainers to seriously and all our Cult factions are gonna get turned into Supplements for base CSM again.

Don't get too down yet. Eldar still have half their range old enough to drink; Drukhari models are pushing 15 years. I can't speak to Neuron's, but only Orks seems to have a large part of their range updated in the past few years.

I suspect it more likely that the lack of Chaos will mean a big refocus in 11th. That doesn't help players now (I have a ton of 1K Sons) but maybe bigger things will happen in 2025-2026. By then its possible mono chaos factions will be more developed with new unique units and the daemon direction solidified.

just guessing.

[Indy Techwisp]

 

well knights are generally gap codices. 

 

Maybe if we're incredibly lucky they'll put out Chaos Knights very close to it!

Then Chaos can finally have another codex this edition!

It's not like we're currently sat at 1/7 Codexs announced by the end of this roadmap vs the Imperium being at 6/7, Loyalist Space Marines being at 3/5 and Xenos being at 6/8.

 

We've still got Drukhari and Leagues of Votann unannounced for Xenos, Black Templars and Space Wolves unannounced for Loyalist Space Marines, Grey Knights unannounced for Imperium and Chaos Knights, Daemons, Thousand Sons, World Eaters, Deathguard and (maybe) Emperor's Children unannounced for Chaos.

Edited August 29 by Indy Techwisp

[Nephaston]

Guess we'll have to fill the rest of the year playing Space Marine 2. That one even got an actual roadmap.

[Magos Takatus]

Wow, that was certainly a thing. I was suitably impressed by the Blood Bowl offering but by the end I was laughing. Necromunda, Kill Team, Underworlds and Warcry are getting "stuff" at some point in the future? Magnificent.

 

I am pleased to see a development of Death Korps as well as more Aspect Warriors on the horizon, and personally I need a lull in the release schedule to catch up a bit, but I can well understand people's disappointment with such an undefined and relatively barren roadmap.

[RedFox]

I haven't read any comments, I just came here to say how this is probably one of the worst exercise in communication I have seen displayed by GW. If you say you're gonna share a roadmap, share a real roadmap. They really should hire real marketing people.

[RedFox]

It's worst than that, it's condescending and infantilizing. Who makes those decisions? 

 

No I did not have any expectations...they were already cautiously low

 

Edit: it sounds like someone was forced to do a roadmap and came up with this out of spite 

Edited August 29 by RedFox

[Indy Techwisp]

To further compound issues, consider the outstanding "rumour" that Daemons are getting folded into their respective Cult Marine faction.

If, as someone suggested earlier in the thread, they're keeping all the Chaos releases together so Daemon players aren't waiting half an edition to resume using their minis, then that would necessitate all the Chaos factions being released close together.

[Norman Paperman]

They’re going to have to announce the Christmas boxes early to make people happy after this. What a let down, would have been better to say nothing, or even have a “we’re sorry, but we’re slowing down for XYZ reasons” type of stream. Trying to hype up nothing for 4 months? C’mon…

 

Time to work on the pile isn’t a bad thing, so I’m done complaining. 

[01RTB01]

Always happy to set a low bar but that was something else. Sounds like the rest of the year isn't seeing too much. Plastic melee weapons for heresy and we'll call it quits.

 

 

[Urauloth]

The Stormcast reveal was cool. I think they probably shouldn't have advertised roadmaps, though. That was more like a street map of the street you're standing on with a note taped to the edge saying "there's stuff over this way".

[MARK0SIAN]

Well that was a big load of nothing.

 

I mainly focussed on the Age of Darkness bit but that spent most of its time talking about stuff that’s already happened and apparently at some point in 2025 there’ll be some more tanks. Whoah! Slow down down GW, I can barely process such a deluge of detailed information! 
 

Even by their standards this was a poor preview with nothing to show. These roadmaps feel more like the early days of Apple Maps.

[StrangerOrders]

I came in expecting very little but this was so hilariously iffy that it left me initially befuddled and now just amused lol.

[Wispy]

Company focused on their other tabletop game and model line. Not interested in that, declares "This is the behavior of a company in a managerial tailspin."

 

Lol 40k will come back around for you guys again. 

[Naryn]

Excited that Knights are in the next 6ish months, since Valrak rumored that cool shield-and-electricity knight. Maybe this lull will give me the motivation I need to actually paint something?

[Xirix]

Bit of a nothing burger that stream huh? Seems GW have forgotten what a roadmap looks like since the last HH one as well.

 

Although, this at least confirms one of my theories that Legion-specific stuff will be in plastic eventually once enough/all of the core units are available, that's neat.

[Scribe]

 

Chaos is the second biggest faction in 40k, the most "lore relevant" one and GW decided to  us all over seemingly for no reason.

 

This has ever, post 3.5, been the lot of Chaos players. To make do with a fraction of the attention we deserve, worse rules, and taken advantage of at the end of release cycles.

[Joe]

To be honest, I suspect the reason everything else is getting a seemingly quiet end to 2024 is to make room for Middle-earth (big license), Necromunda Secundus and boxed games like Warhammer Quest. 

[Xanthous]

 

Company focused on their other tabletop game and model line.

 

This is probably a big part of it. The Skaven and Stormcast Battletomes are both substantial releases, not to mention Hivestorm and the new edition of Kill Team. It's not that surprising that 40k is taking a back seat for a few months.

[Wispy]

 

 

This is probably a big part of it. The Skaven and Stormcast Battletomes are both substantial releases, not to mention Hivestorm and the new edition of Kill Team. It's not that surprising that 40k is taking a back seat for a few months.

Age of Sigmar is a big blind spot for most people here, so if you're ignoring it you'll have a perspective that GW is doing nothing at all. They're just not doing anything anyone here is interested in.

 

I collect and paint Stormcast on top of my Space Wolves, so I'm good focusing on them until GW gets around to the Space Wolves refresh that's supposed to happen at the end of the edition.

Edited August 29 by Wispy

[01RTB01]

 

Company focused on their other tabletop game and model line. Not interested in that, declares "This is the behavior of a company in a managerial tailspin."

 

Lol 40k will come back around for you guys again. 

Zero issues with what they choose to preview or not but those road maps are like wet toilet paper, chocolate fireguards, most quangos and especially Ofsted. 

 

They'd honestly have been better to sticking with stormcast and blood bowl and ignoring the rest.