Golden Demon Golden Demon SPIEL (2024) to ban AI-generated content / further revisions

[Toxichobbit]

 

Yep ban AI

 

we all know what happens if we dont!

 

It leads to a burly man in a leather jacket and shades accepting a slayer sword while saying "I know now why you lick brushes. But it's something I can never do" in a monotone Austrian accent. 

[grailkeeper]

 

 

It leads to a burly man in a leather jacket and shades accepting a slayer sword while saying "I know now why you lick brushes. But it's something I can never do" in a monotone Austrian accent. 

 

Two thin leather jackets?

[Brother Carpenter]

 

 

Two thin leather jackets?

I’ll be back next year.

[Wispy]

 

 

Are there problems with AI art? Abso-:cuss:ing-lutely. But putting up a few trees which also could've been rendered by taking a photograph and printing it isn't that big a deal imho.

Photography is an art form that involves a great deal of time of effort starting with scouting a location, framing and composing your shot, and tuning your focal&exposures for best results. There's a whole post-production element in treating the captured images in photo editing software which could mean as little as re-balancing and reframing the captured imagery for use in the miniature to as far significant changes like creating a matte painting to really customize the desired effect.

[alfred_the_great]

 

I’ll be back next year.

With your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle?

[Matcap86]

 

Photography is an art form that involves a great deal of time of effort starting with scouting a location, framing and composing your shot, and tuning your focal&exposures for best results. There's a whole post-production element in treating the captured images in photo editing software which could mean as little as re-balancing and reframing the captured imagery for use in the miniature to as far significant changes like creating a matte painting to really customize the desired effect.

 

Sure, photography can be an art form. But it doesn't need to be the process you described. It can also be a snapshot on my phone, quickly edited in photoshop in half an hour. 

 

Edit: just to be sure: I'm not equating all photography to be equal to an AI prompt of some trees. 

Edited August 21 by Matcap86

[MithrilForge]

@Orion- ha I remember that baneblade, I was there at the 99’ golden demon in Sydney… good memories , those were the days I remember fondest of GW things in general 

 

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[INKS]

while I don't disagree with their assessment, does the background matter? you are judging the mini. not the background..

[Magos Takatus]

 

 

I guess?

I don't really care much about Golden Demon, or competitions in general, but when I was young I fondly remember a scratchbuilt Baneblade by Paul Cairncross.

You can make it a competition about putting perfect gradients on every muscle on skink, but I'll remember the scratchbuilt Baneblade 25 years later.
Will people remember the same of the skink?

 

 

Zero sympathy for the AI backdrops though. 

Yes, and I fondly remember a scratch-built model of an Eldar Falcon Tank that predates the current (ancient) plastic kit. I'm pretty sure neither that or the Baneblade you used as your example fit into the single miniature category though. There's a good reason for having different categories in painting competitions and the open competition is a great place for more ambitious conversions and dioramas. I imagine that Baneblade dominated the 40k vehicle category that year but I imagine they have to put restrictions on how much conversion and modification is permitted for some categories like single miniature. Otherwise you could enter a 40k scale Imperial Lunar Cruiser as an entry in the 40k vehicle category and the judges would secretly hate you as you forklift your entry into place. 

Edited August 21 by Magos Takatus

[Indy Techwisp]

 

while I don't disagree with their assessment, does the background matter? you are judging the mini. not the background..

 

To quote me, from the previous page:

 

A thought.

 

What if this ban isn't to ensure fair competition, or GW taking a side in the ongoing AI Stans vs AI Haters conflict or whatever, but instead GW taking steps necessary to protect Brand IP?

 

Like, consider this:
If the AI Generated backgrounds are allowed, where's that line drawn regarding what's in them?

Could someone Generate a Parade of Space Marines for a background and that be allowed?

If they did, can they ensure those Generated Marines match up to GW's IP standards?

What if a generated element includes something recognisably from another IP, say, generating Stormtroopers in the background of an Imperial Guard entry?

 

You'd need to write so many edge case rules and regulations to allow AI Generated content while also conforming to the standards GW hold the Golden Demon competition and the IP at large to.

Or alternatively, you could just write one line saying "No AI" and not need to worry about any of the above happening.

 

[Marshal Rohr]

Even crazier about the backdrop thing, the judges remove it to view the miniature in 360. It isn’t even part of the judgement for painting. 

[INKS]

 

 

To quote me, from the previous page:

 

yeah it makes sense to just blanket ban it

 

Even crazier about the backdrop thing, the judges remove it to view the miniature in 360. It isn’t even part of the judgement for painting. 

yeah, I didn't think so