Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 I want to preface this with, this was simply a thought I had, and not something I want to actually see show up in lore or in game. we know that FB brothers who were completely overtaken by the red thirst mutate at least somewhat, but has there been any mention of what happens to primaris marines who likewise are overtaken by the thirst and survive for a significant period of time afterwards? if not I can see GW at some point deciding BA need bat-men versions of the wulfen. please GW don’t do this Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383780-primaris-and-the-flaw/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathstrider Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 I think the boat was missed on that front - when I heard about imperium nihilus being cut off I was fully braced for the blood angels to be full on vampires ruling a mini kingdom by the time Robute re established contact. (while I largely hated the thought, it had some virtue in a contrast to the chaos of most of Nihilus - a sort of “order but at what cost” sort of thing) but we’ve really found out GW didn’t want to alter the setting much at all really and although it’s always been the case, it was painfully apparent with the BA primaris that fluff was being bent to serve the needs of miniatures. so I think it would be many editions before the marine range gets so extensive that Gw would consider extending the fluff to make miniatures to support what you’re saying. And if AoS is any guide, they’ll instead just refresh the basic range by that point. So I wouldn’t worry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383780-primaris-and-the-flaw/#findComment-6060625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 I think the boat was missed on that front - when I heard about imperium nihilus being cut off I was fully braced for the blood angels to be full on vampires ruling a mini kingdom by the time Robute re established contact. (while I largely hated the thought, it had some virtue in a contrast to the chaos of most of Nihilus - a sort of “order but at what cost” sort of thing) but we’ve really found out GW didn’t want to alter the setting much at all really and although it’s always been the case, it was painfully apparent with the BA primaris that fluff was being bent to serve the needs of miniatures. so I think it would be many editions before the marine range gets so extensive that Gw would consider extending the fluff to make miniatures to support what you’re saying. And if AoS is any guide, they’ll instead just refresh the basic range by that point. So I wouldn’t worry. Imperium Nihilus was the coolest concept to come out of the Cicatrix Maledictum and they have done literally :cuss: all with it, and it's such a disappointment. Spagunk 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383780-primaris-and-the-flaw/#findComment-6060645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 we need another guy haley book i think DemonGSides and ThaneOfTas 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383780-primaris-and-the-flaw/#findComment-6060652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 and they have done literally all with it, and it's such a disappointment. I take it that you have not read Spears of the Emperor, Darkness in the Blood, or Lion Son of the Forest. but has there been any mention of what happens to primaris marines who likewise are overtaken by the thirst and survive for a significant period of time afterwards? Not that I know of, but I have not read all the latest books if not I can see GW at some point deciding BA need bat-men versions of the wulfen. please GW don’t do this Since they have not already done it do I think that it's unlikely that we will see it. But if anybody wants to create some would I suggest using wulfen kitbashed with AoS' Ghoul Kings. DemonGSides 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383780-primaris-and-the-flaw/#findComment-6060661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 I take it that you have not read Spears of the Emperor, Darkness in the Blood, or Lion Son of the Forest. Not that I know of, but I have not read all the latest books Since they have not already done it do I think that it's unlikely that we will see it. But if anybody wants to create some would I suggest using wulfen kitbashed with AoS' Ghoul Kings. I've read all 3. 3 books over 7 years is a pretty bad rate, in my opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383780-primaris-and-the-flaw/#findComment-6060673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 I've read all 3. 3 books over 7 years is a pretty bad rate, in my opinion. There are more then 3 books out there, they were just the ones that I could name without having to look stuff up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383780-primaris-and-the-flaw/#findComment-6060676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 I think the boat was missed on that front - when I heard about imperium nihilus being cut off I was fully braced for the blood angels to be full on vampires ruling a mini kingdom by the time Robute re established contact. (while I largely hated the thought, it had some virtue in a contrast to the chaos of most of Nihilus - a sort of “order but at what cost” sort of thing) but we’ve really found out GW didn’t want to alter the setting much at all really and although it’s always been the case, it was painfully apparent with the BA primaris that fluff was being bent to serve the needs of miniatures. so I think it would be many editions before the marine range gets so extensive that Gw would consider extending the fluff to make miniatures to support what you’re saying. And if AoS is any guide, they’ll instead just refresh the basic range by that point. So I wouldn’t worry. If they did it I imagine it would be around 14-15th edition Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383780-primaris-and-the-flaw/#findComment-6060686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 I've read all 3. 3 books over 7 years is a pretty bad rate, in my opinion. They’re going to drag things out in the name of prolonging their profits. i don’t foresee the setting stagnating at all again until 2035 at the soonest. not until we have all 18 primarchs or their avatars in model form. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383780-primaris-and-the-flaw/#findComment-6060687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 They can keep dragging it out, I'd just like some, y'know, meat. Spear of the Emperor was a great read, but didn't really give us anything other than a snapshot of a bad time. I want to know more about day to day. I want to see the degredation after 100 years of minimal contact between Imperium halves. The retconning of the Indomitus Crusade's position in the timeline was a good decision, now lets see some of the after effects. The Dawn of Fire stuff has been mega snoresville. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383780-primaris-and-the-flaw/#findComment-6060689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted August 29 Author Share Posted August 29 They can keep dragging it out, I'd just like some, y'know, meat. Spear of the Emperor was a great read, but didn't really give us anything other than a snapshot of a bad time. I want to know more about day to day. I want to see the degredation after 100 years of minimal contact between Imperium halves. The retconning of the Indomitus Crusade's position in the timeline was a good decision, now lets see some of the after effects. The Dawn of Fire stuff has been mega snoresville. Won’t see any of that until they move the timeline forward which means it will be years before anything with any real ‘meat’ shows up in the lord. i think retconning the timeline backwards was a bad choice. they could have just left the timeline there and backfilled stories. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383780-primaris-and-the-flaw/#findComment-6060699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 They’re going to drag things out in the name of prolonging their profits. GW have always been upfront that the lore and even the rules are simply there to drive sales of the models. Inquisitor_Lensoven, Gamiel, Dalmyth and 2 others 3 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383780-primaris-and-the-flaw/#findComment-6060839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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