About Emperor's Children and Librarians

[Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf]

I'm reading back about Librarians,the Librarius Project and pre-Heresy legions, and I found something peculiar and, in my opinion, a bit a contradiction 

The Legion III, the Emperor's Children employed no Librarians and had no Librarius("Reticent in employing" exact words), because as been psyker is a  genetic mutation, it was considered a flaw, and nothing considered a flaw would be allowed by Fulgrim in his Legion. This is stated in the novella The Reflection Crack'd.

 

But I saw this in Lexicanum: "Magnus and his fellow pro-psyker Primarchs such as Sanguinius, Jaghatai Khan, and Fulgrim then asked the Emperor to allow recruitment of psychic individuals into the ranks of the legions. The Emperor accepted, and the Librarians became some of the most loyal troops to the Emperor." This appears in the Horus Heresy novel A Thousand Sons. And in Inferno (FW's 7th book of the Heresy), said Fulgrim was "proponent of their use"

 

This not a bit contradictory?Fulgrim not allowing Librarians in his own Legion but encouraging to develop the Librarium Project in the Legions?

 

I need enlightenment 

Edited September 1 by Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf

[Xin Ceithan]

While  I’d chalk it down to the drift in the narrative/ lore over the years, there are in-universe explanations that’d  allow for that discrepancy.

 

On the one hand, Fulgrim and the EC might have been obsessed with genetic purity within their own ranks, but, in a mix of arrogance and an attitude of noble Larissa-faire, might not have a problem and even support it in other, more bourgeoise, Legions.

”We are all pro-Psy… as long as you do it over there….” 
 

on the other, Primarch were supposed to be extremely capable and adaptive beings.

It’d be entirely possible that - especially with their initial geneseed deficiencies the EC / Fulgrim  started out seeing psykers as flawed and would not allow any of them inside the Legion but overcome this trait as they come into contact and fight along the other Legions and Primarchs? It seems entirely possible that given how universal respected and beloved someone like Sanguinius is described , for example, that Fulgrim might have changed his mind over the time ? 

[lansalt]

 

This not a bit contradictory?Fulgrim not allowing Librarians in his own Legion but encouraging to develop the Librarium Project in the Legions?

It's indeed contradictory. In narrative terms it's convenient that the EC didn't have librarians that could have warned Fulgrim about the Laer and their sword or what came later. They avoiding psyker related stuff due to its perceived imperfection and taint given what happened to their geneseed is a good excuse for it.

 

But why Fulgrim is not against their use by the legions, or just neutral? He even supports Magnus in public during Nikaea... Looking back at it, we can only speculate since we aren't told, but my impression after rereading that part of A Thousand Sons is that Fulgrim was both playing politics (for himself and maybe for Horus, a similar case) and he was also genuinelly worried about Magnus and the TS being censured for reasons related to their geneseed, which was also part of Sanguinius motivation.

Edited September 1 by lansalt

[Noserenda]

This was before Laurie Golding was desperately trying to keep things consistent in the era so unfortunately stuff like this cropped up, one could argue Fulgrim supported the librarius in general, just not for his Legion, the big nimby :D 

[Marshal Rohr]

If you told me Fulgrim got up and supported the Librarius but banned it in his own legion I would say that’s pretty on par for what I consider Fulgrim to behave like. He was one of the older brothers and a senior commander of the Primarchs. Politicking and policy would be a major role he performed.  

Edited September 1 by Marshal Rohr

[Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf]

 

If you told me Fulgrim got up and supported the Librarius but banned it in his own legion I would say that’s pretty on par for what I consider Fulgrim to behave like. He was one of the older brothers and a senior commander of the Primarchs. Politicking and policy would be a major role he performed.  

Hummm "older brother"...? What do you mean?literally or metaphorically?

[Marshal Rohr]

Fulgrim was found fifth that’s why he was so close with Ferrus and Horus. The early years of the great crusade were commanded by Horus, Russ, Ferrus, Fulgrim, and a lost Primarch. 

Edited September 1 by Marshal Rohr

[Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf]

True,the Lord of the Second, according to The Palatine Phoenix novel. 

Nice touch.

 

Fulgrim was found fifth that’s why he was so close with Ferrus and Horus. The early years of the great crusade were commanded by Horus, Russ, Ferrus, Fulgrim, and a lost Primarch. 

 

[Jareddm]

I would say it's perfectly on par for Fulgrim and makes a nice contrast to Rogal Dorn's view.

Dorn did not approve of the librarium and fought against its implementation. But once it was approved, he wasn't going to deny himself the use of any weapon. Fulgrim vs Dorn on this matter is policy vs practicality.

[Nova_Dew]

 

If you told me Fulgrim got up and supported the Librarius but banned it in his own legion I would say that’s pretty on par for what I consider Fulgrim to behave like. He was one of the older brothers and a senior commander of the Primarchs. Politicking and policy would be a major role he performed.  

This but add in "An older brother supporting a younger brothers pet project" while being genetic constructs they acted human-ish and had human-like emotions, some turned up to 100/10.

It could be something as human as "I'm not interested in it and don't want anything to do with it, but some of my younger brothers are and it's important to them, so it's important to me", add in the loss of two brothers for "reasons" on the grand scheme of things not that long ago, Mortarion being Mortarion about psykers, Russ being a hypocrite about it, I can see Fulgrim being all for it just to annoy Russ and Mortarion, because family gonna family.