Redcomet Posted September 11, 2024 Share Posted September 11, 2024 Stuff is coming out. Groundbreaking painting.for.my.sanity, Toxichobbit, Cenobite Terminator and 3 others 1 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted September 11, 2024 Share Posted September 11, 2024 On 9/11/2024 at 11:37 AM, The_Worker said: I'd lean more towards Ynnari than Exodites myself, honestly. Expand Hope not. Ynnari are a branch that's going to wither. Exodites and Pirates make way more sense. Marshal Rohr, TheMawr, CrusaderXIII and 2 others 2 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerOrders Posted September 11, 2024 Share Posted September 11, 2024 (edited) On 9/11/2024 at 3:40 PM, ThePenitentOne said: Were Blood Angels and Dark Angels enough for Marine players? Until Eldar have four Craftworld codex supplements, an entire game devoted to them and an Epic scale game, no. And hint: if you ask the same of any non-marine faction, my answer will always be the same. Expand I feel like this could be taken as a 'cull the marines' argument by some, I do not. Because I remember loving the Iyanden supplement back in that day with all its fluff and will forever feel robbed that we didn't get a model for their giga-Spiritseer heroine or more sapient Wraith characters. Faction consolidation is imo, always a mistake. I will prefer some White Scar character driven by an awesome concept over some new redundant unit. I will prefer an Iyanden caped Wraithlord over making a new 5 unit army that needs to be crammed into the setting (which is rich with potential). So what if some craftworlds, chapters or septs play suspiciously alike? Every edition since GW got on the 'simplify' train has ended in a progressively more eldritch mess that caters to the competitive crowd. I am going to paraphrase a Highlord that got canned for her opinion. "Give us the Exodites, Give us the Craftworlds. Burn the limitation to detachments and let us muster forth unique characters from random Successor chapters! Hear me my lords, why must we content ourselves with mere colour gradiants for different Hive Fleets! Give the Mechanicum more than Skitarrii and let the Farsight Tau have the katanas they pretend to not crave!" *cough* or something like that *cough* Edited September 11, 2024 by StrangerOrders Arkangilos, SvenIronhand, Boytoy and 9 others 2 1 9 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenIronhand Posted September 11, 2024 Share Posted September 11, 2024 On 9/11/2024 at 5:18 PM, StrangerOrders said: I feel like this could be taken as a 'cull the marines' argument by some, I do not. Because I remember loving the Iyanden supplement back in that day with all its fluff and will forever feel robbed that we didn't get a model for their giga-Spiritseer heroine or more sapient Wraith characters. Faction consolidation is imo, always a mistake. I will prefer some White Scar character driven by an awesome concept over some new redundant unit. I will prefer an Iyanden caped Wraithlord over making a new 5 unit army. So what if some craftworlds, chapters or septs play suspiciously alike? Every edition since GW got on the 'simplify' train has ended in a progressively more eldritch mess that caters to the competitive crowd. I am going to paraphrase a Highlord that got canned for her opinion. "Give us the Exodites, Give us the Craftworlds. Burn the limitation to detachments and let us muster forth unique characters from random Successor chapters! Hear me my lords, why must we content ourselves with mere colour gradiants for different Hive Fleets! Give the Mechanicum more than Skitarrii and let the Farsight Tau have the katanas they pretend to not crave!" *cough* or something like that *cough* Expand Exactly how I read Petitioner's City post myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focslain Posted September 11, 2024 Share Posted September 11, 2024 On 9/11/2024 at 4:54 PM, CL_Mission said: Ah, I didn't realise Chaos Knights still use the Helverins and Armigers kits as well as their own. In that case, yeah, they could do with new something on a larger frame. I wonder if a proper chaosy Tyrant kit could be on the table. Expand Yeah, it's the Huntsmen (warglaive) and Executioner(helverin), honestly I hope Imperials get something like the chaos Stalker which is a character so chaos can have an all wardog force. I want to go back to fielding my all armigar army from 8th/9th Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentOne Posted September 11, 2024 Share Posted September 11, 2024 On 9/11/2024 at 4:24 PM, Robbienw said: Marines don’t have an entire game devoted to them. Expand Yeah, I know- the game also has Solar Auxiliary and Admech. Perhaps I should have said, "Until Eldar get a game that is mostly about them fighting each other, but includes two other factions as well." More cumbersome to write, but yes, I concede it would have been more accurate. SteveAntilles and The_Worker 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoriyaSchism Posted September 11, 2024 Share Posted September 11, 2024 The plastic Deathriders have really big shoes to fill and I hope GW won't disappoint. I really want to see plastic Warp Spiders and a new Phoenix Lord. If they absolutely need to release new Space Marines I would prefer that release wave be reserved for the Grey Knights and the new models have to be on par with the current Castellan Crowe model. Cenobite Terminator 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted September 11, 2024 Share Posted September 11, 2024 I have never subscribed to the notion that marines need take a back seat just because their catalogue is already big. It is big for a reason. They're the biggest faction, the largest group of players are catered to with their releases. However i draw a line with questioning the need for more xenos or other human factions. I mean c'mon brother. I feel we could do without bemoaning the luck of either Zoatibix, LSM, DemonGSides and 12 others 15 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted September 11, 2024 Share Posted September 11, 2024 On 9/11/2024 at 6:08 PM, ThePenitentOne said: Yeah, I know- the game also has Solar Auxiliary and Admech. Perhaps I should have said, "Until Eldar get a game that is mostly about them fighting each other, but includes two other factions as well." More cumbersome to write, but yes, I concede it would have been more accurate. Expand 4, you forgot the Talons of the Emperor and Questoris Knights. Kind of 5 actually considering the daemons of the ruinstorm, although they don’t have much of a model range. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenobite Terminator Posted September 11, 2024 Share Posted September 11, 2024 (edited) This is getting pretty wishlisty with some Space Marine angst thrown in for good measure. Edited September 11, 2024 by Cenobite Terminator Bouargh 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farson Posted September 11, 2024 Share Posted September 11, 2024 Is there even anything new here? Save your money if you pay these factions is hardly news Cenobite Terminator and Toxichobbit 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted September 11, 2024 Share Posted September 11, 2024 (edited) On 9/11/2024 at 8:17 PM, Mr Farson said: Is there even anything new here? Save your money if you pay these factions is hardly news Expand Still more info than Nova Open Edited September 11, 2024 by Toxichobbit Magos Takatus, Arendious, skylerboodie and 16 others 1 18 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naryn Posted September 11, 2024 Share Posted September 11, 2024 I saw Valrak's video from a while back about the new knight, and I interpreted it as a Questoris or Dominus chassis--a big boy-- rather than another Armiger variant. Is there a separate source for the Armiger claim? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted September 11, 2024 Share Posted September 11, 2024 On 9/11/2024 at 4:24 PM, Robbienw said: Marines don’t have an entire game devoted to them. Expand Spaces Marines do have a game named after them tho. 2, in fact. In terms if the actual Rumour(s) tho I have some opinions: Aeldari and Drukhari do have a ton of models that need updating, but some new units like an Exodite squad or anything new for Harlequins would be appreciated. For Guard, I'm surprised Valrak didn't say anything else about the supposed Ogryn+Ratling Killteam release, but I guess there's just not any new news about it yet. I'm not surprised there's more Marines coming, what with Black Templars, Space Wolves and Grey Knights yet to get their 10th ed Codex, but if there's more releases for Generic LSM that would be very nice. As for Chaos, if Emperor's Children are supposed to be the Summer release and, according to WarCom and the roadmap, we're due for so-called "Chaos Treats", it adds fuel to my burning concern that all the Cult Marine Factions are releasing at the same time and Daemons are getting rolled in with their Cult Faction. (Personally, I'd prefer if Daemons just gained the Keyword of the faction they're souped into and got IA style "soup points" rather than being fully integrated, but that's besides the point of this thread.) Orion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted September 11, 2024 Share Posted September 11, 2024 On 9/11/2024 at 8:57 PM, Naryn said: I saw Valrak's video from a while back about the new knight, and I interpreted it as a Questoris or Dominus chassis--a big boy-- rather than another Armiger variant. Is there a separate source for the Armiger claim? Expand His most recent rumour video from a week or so ago, where he collected everything he'd heard about what was revealed to be coming at Nova Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 On 9/11/2024 at 6:55 PM, Marshal Reinhard said: I have never subscribed to the notion that marines need take a back seat just because their catalogue is already big. It is big for a reason. They're the biggest faction, the largest group of players are catered to with their releases. However i draw a line with questioning the need for more xenos or other human factions. I mean c'mon brother. I feel we could do without bemoaning the luck of either Expand It’s too bad they won’t release rules without models. Then they could do more and do it more quickly. The_Worker and ThaneOfTas 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 jimbo1701 and Brother Borgia 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximusTL Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 i do think that we will get an Aeldari vs Slaanesh theming next year, it fits too well. I don't know if we'll get a versus box, we haven't had one in a long time, but the concept sounds wonderful. i blew alot of hobby budget on the Blood Angels release this year, and now with the Aedari next year and hints of world eaters . . . oh my. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magos Takatus Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 On 9/11/2024 at 8:57 PM, Naryn said: I saw Valrak's video from a while back about the new knight, and I interpreted it as a Questoris or Dominus chassis--a big boy-- rather than another Armiger variant. Is there a separate source for the Armiger claim? Expand I certainly hope so. I bought into a codex called IMPERIAL KNIGHTS, not imperial squires. The_Worker and Dark Shepherd 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 Am a bit surprised theyre not merging knights and chaos knights into one codex BUT I think it lines up with other CMV rumours of Vashtor getting minions....so Vashtor, Chaos Knights, Belakor, in one book (?) A fair few viewer questions on last nights stream about Drukhari getting merged into one giant Eldar codex He had another rumour of Grey Knights getting a Kill Team in 2026 All in all the lesser played armies are a bit nervous right now Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 Moneys paw moment: there are too many Aeldari units to have 1 book for them all. The_Worker 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 On 9/12/2024 at 10:10 AM, Mogger351 said: Moneys paw moment: there are too many Aeldari units to have 1 book for them all. Expand Well we have Craftworlds, Dark Eldar, Clown Eldar, and Rebel Eldar -- super apologize, it's early and I can't remember their actual names. Seems like DE should be their own thing, but in more recent years, they are all sort of just mashed together. It's sort of become an odd faction hasn't it? Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 On 9/12/2024 at 10:40 AM, INKS said: Well we have Craftworlds, Dark Eldar, Clown Eldar, and Rebel Eldar -- super apologize, it's early and I can't remember their actual names. Seems like DE should be their own thing, but in more recent years, they are all sort of just mashed together. It's sort of become an odd faction hasn't it? Expand Dakaris and Ynnarri can team up but Ynnari and all other Eldar can team up sic, its probably too much of a headfeth for GW doctrine to have Ynarri printed in 2 books but they could do it design wise if they came out at the same time Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 First I've heard of the idea of DE and Eldar sharing a book. Was this just talk from concerned fans over how Harlequins were merged with eldar into 9th edition? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Ex_Machina Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 On 9/11/2024 at 3:40 PM, ThePenitentOne said: Were Blood Angels and Dark Angels enough for Marine players? Until Eldar have four Craftworld codex supplements, an entire game devoted to them and an Epic scale game, no. And hint: if you ask the same of any non-marine faction, my answer will always be the same. Expand There are not enough Eldar players out there to sell this to. I have myself an Ulthwé army from 3rd 40K consisting almost exclusively of Guardians and Warlocks. Although playing them felt weird as shuriken catapults had only a pitiful range 12 inches thus putting valuable Eldar lives at risk. They would be more attractive to players, if their basic gun wouldn´t suck. TrawlingCleaner, Magos Takatus and CrusaderXIII 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383966-possibly-new-rumor-info-from-valrak-regarding-eldar-sm-krieg-csm/page/2/#findComment-6064185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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