Rumour Possibly new rumor info from valrak regarding eldar / SM / Krieg / CSM

[Dark Shepherd]

 

First I've heard of the idea of DE and Eldar sharing a book. Was this just talk from concerned fans over how Harlequins were merged with eldar into 9th edition?

Concerned fans; merging codexes is the new rock n roll :)

 

FWIW Aeldari have 60 datasheets, Drukhari 24, laughs in marine codex

Edited September 12 by Dark Shepherd

[INKS]

 

First I've heard of the idea of DE and Eldar sharing a book. Was this just talk from concerned fans over how Harlequins were merged with eldar into 9th edition?

Probably my mistake. I think I confused that you can take them with Ynarri. 

[Mogger351]

 

Probably my mistake. I think I confused that you can take them with Ynarri. 

Which is pain in some ways as Ynnari being the aborted army/agents of the aledari role with corsairs aren't printed in the dark aeldari rules/book. But are in the other book with harlequins and craftworld aeldari.

[Naryn]

Hmm, interesting. The Armiger rumour from Valrak says he doesn't know what it's armed with, just that a new Armiger is potentially coming soon. Whereas the video from a month or so ago is pretty specific about a knight with lots of shield generators and a tesla style cannon. Hopefully two releases for Knights then! Unless someone's confused the Magaera for a brand new design, since Mechanicum plastic knights are also on the table apparently.

Edited September 12 by Naryn

[ZeroWolf]

So good times for those who love giant robots then 

 

...just wish I had space for them!

[INKS]

Even if knights only get a kit that goes from resin to plastic that is still a win.

Heck that is all I want for custodes. Make them all plastic. 

[Mogger351]

My chaos knights purchases are partially in hold whilst I see if the HH knights end up in the codex, if not I don't trust the cerastus minis to not become invalid.

[Dr. Clock]

 

Concerned fans; merging codexes is the new rock n roll :)

 

FWIW Aeldari have 60 datasheets, Drukhari 24, laughs in marine codex

I, for one, welcome the idea of Craftworlds 'losing' Harlequins, Corsairs and Ynnari if that means we get a third Aeldari book that includes proper detachments for Harlies, Corsairs and (hopefully) Exodites. An 'assigned agents' kind of ally structure as the army rule could work pretty dang well as long as they make the data-sheet rules strong enough on their own merits.

 

We'll definitely be able to tell what the plan is a bit better once we find out if Harlequins are in the Craftworld codex...

 

Cheers,

 

The Good Doctor.

[HeadlessCross]

 

I, for one, welcome the idea of Craftworlds 'losing' Harlequins, Corsairs and Ynnari if that means we get a third Aeldari book that includes proper detachments for Harlies, Corsairs and (hopefully) Exodites. An 'assigned agents' kind of ally structure as the army rule could work pretty dang well as long as they make the data-sheet rules strong enough on their own merits.

 

We'll definitely be able to tell what the plan is a bit better once we find out if Harlequins are in the Craftworld codex...

 

Cheers,

 

The Good Doctor.

You say that until you get your Imperial Agents equivalent and see what a mess it is LMAO

[Dr. Clock]

I... do play Deathwatch. It was mishandled for sure mostly because they didn't leave deathwatch enough room to be a sizeable part of a basic marines list in my opinion (literally I just wish I could take my Corvus alongside 2 Retinue units w/ Inquisitors as allies - Corvus could be Requisition instead of Retinue IMO and at that point I'd probably... buy the book). Plus just generally lacking ranged anti-tank.

 

Harlequins on their own are in a much better state than the nonbo-combo of Navy, Arbites and Inquisition though... So I think it'd be quite a bit easier to make a book that stands well enough on its own and sets up 'alliance' forces without it ending up being the competitive default like Ynnari has been at times.

 

Anyway - neither route will particularly surprise me, but up to now Ynnari implementation has been pretty weird and hamfisted IMO, so I'm looking forward to some change.

 

Cheers,

 

The Good Doctor.

 

[Cenobite Terminator]

What are Marines going to be getting down the road? I take to mean general new units since we know which factions are still awaiting their new codices.

[DemonGSides]

Obvious answers are Assault Terminators and an expansion of the Outrider based units, as well as all the various types of leadership in various armor types.

 

SM have a lot to release that isn't even really "new", just updated versions. I can't imagine what a new SM unit even looks like right now, after the relatively wet fart that was Infernus Marines. 

[jimbo1701]

 

Obvious answers are Assault Terminators and an expansion of the Outrider based units, as well as all the various types of leadership in various armor types.

 

SM have a lot to release that isn't even really "new", just updated versions. I can't imagine what a new SM unit even looks like right now, after the relatively wet fart that was Infernus Marines. 

Grav weapons went out of vogue in the era indomitus it seems so I wonder if they will make a return? Primaris seem to have several mono squads packing armament somewhere between the old special and heavy weapons, with grav notably absent. 
 

I would welcome a third aeldari book to give the ynaari, corsairs, harlequins and exodites their own home. 

[Dr. Clock]

I would go for either/both assault terminators and melee / elite outriders. As a Scars successor I've found Outriders decent cheap screen/blockers but they are mostly useless as damage dealers. I want mounted bladeguard basically so that codex chapters have something to compare to thunderwolves and ravenwing knights. They don't even need the 4++ - maybe just give an Outrider a 5++ and a master-crafted power weapon and I'd use like 2x3 up to about 130 pts per unit.

 

I've got enough storm speeders and inceptors to make my list feel pretty speedy, but I'd love to add ~6 more bikes if the elite/spendy ones can actually fight.

 

Cheers,

 

The Good Doctor.

[Ming the Merciless]

Assault Terminators, Vanguard Vets, maybe a Jump Pack Chaplain?

[DemonGSides]

 

I would go for either/both assault terminators and melee / elite outriders. As a Scars successor I've found Outriders decent cheap screen/blockers but they are mostly useless as damage dealers. I want mounted bladeguard basically so that codex chapters have something to compare to thunderwolves and ravenwing knights. They don't even need the 4++ - maybe just give an Outrider a 5++ and a master-crafted power weapon and I'd use like 2x3 up to about 130 pts per unit.

 

I've got enough storm speeders and inceptors to make my list feel pretty speedy, but I'd love to add ~6 more bikes if the elite/spendy ones can actually fight.

 

Cheers,

 

The Good Doctor.

 

I'm leaning towards Assault Terminators just since they already did one half of the terminator equation, and then maybe they can add a Terminator Lt equivalent around the same time.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing more bike stuff. It's not my jam but I think outriders look cool and they shouldn't STILL be a Ez2Build kit at this point. Give em options and give em an actual useful niche to occupy. 

[Cenobite Terminator]

I would love to see Vanguard Vets updated like Sternguard.

[DemonGSides]

Same!  There's some argument to be made they could also show up; last year's release of the Jump Int's is them leaning that direction as well.

It's just GW's MO to not give us the entirety of any one section of SM at one time; We got Aggressorsand Inceptors in 2017, then the next Pure Gravis was Eradicators in 2020, and then HINTS the next year.

They just do things so weird.  I'm sure it's a production or economics or psychology thing, but good god is it annoying.

Edited September 12 by DemonGSides

[Dark Shepherd]

I think the Armiger rumour was for a melee variant

[01RTB01]

 

There are not enough Eldar players out there to sell this to. I have myself an Ulthwé army from 3rd 40K consisting almost exclusively of Guardians and Warlocks. Although playing them felt weird as shuriken catapults had only a pitiful range 12 inches thus putting valuable Eldar lives at risk. They would be more attractive to players, if their basic gun wouldn´t suck.

Good job then that in 2nd Ed and 10th Ed their basic guns are great then isn't it ;) 

 

3rd Ed just wasn't attractive full stop. It wasn't limited to the range of shuricats.

[crimsondave]

 

 

I'm leaning towards Assault Terminators just since they already did one half of the terminator equation, and then maybe they can add a Terminator Lt equivalent around the same time.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing more bike stuff. It's not my jam but I think outriders look cool and they shouldn't STILL be a Ez2Build kit at this point. Give em options and give em an actual useful niche to occupy. 

It would be an interesting decision to come out with a Lt. in TDA when they just squatted the Strikemaster.  I agree with everything you said though.  I’d love to get the Strikemaster back and some more units to use as Ravenwing even if they’re not bespoke.

[Focslain]

 

I think the Armiger rumour was for a melee variant

That would give the Imperials a Karnivore variant which I'm not opposed to, those things are nasty as it's a speedier wargliave armed with a siege claw and +2A. 

[HeadlessCross]

 

I would love to see Vanguard Vets updated like Sternguard.

You say that until you get current GW's "build only the kit" rules and your Vanguard once again can't kill vehicles. The current Sternguard rules are a sham. 

[Xirix]

Being not a fan of the Jump Assault Intercessors, and seeing how they dumbed down the Sternguard compared to the old kit, I'm very much inclined to not want a Vanguard update either.

[Wispy]

can't imagine anything happening with eldar besides crushing the rest of the ancient, finecast'd range. 

 

Warp Spiders, Dire Avengers, Fire Dragons, Swooping Hawks, Beharroth, Fuegan, Karandras, and Asuryan are all waiting for new models. 4 infantry kits and 4 character kits remain.

 

That's more kits than some armies have. 

 

(nevermind ancient vehicle kits like vypers, warwalkers, falcons)

 

Edited September 13 by Wispy