Rumour New Paint Range, Dropper Bottles and Rogal Dorn Rumours

[Mana]

 

I'm hoping that 30k new edition is more of a 2.5 and isn't going to invalidate all my books I've bought. 

 

 

They better be really careful with any new edition/rules for 30k. If they use it as a FAQ pass, that’s be great. If they use it as a reboot, that would be me tapping out most likely.

 

Yeah I don't want a new edition I want faqs and fixes for the existing edition, if GW has to do it with updated core rules so be it, but the 3 year release cycle is cancerous greed.

[Ahzek451]

 

 

That's not really a new thing though as it's been the same way with most editions, but I think some people are hopefully growing weary of it.

 

 

Oh definitely.  

[LameBeard]

HH 3.0 must be true, I have 3 fat books and have played almost no games because I paint so slowly.  I was hoping for more than a 3 -year cycle on HH. It’s kind of why I chose it. I guess I’m a sucker. I’ll finish my models and play Squad Hammer with them I guess.

[Valkyrion]

Rogal Dorn with a shield? Has he ever been described in the books as using a shield? Part of Dorn's limited charm is that he uses, basically, a bolt pistol and chainsword as his weapons. He is fundamentally awesome enough that he needs no awesome weapons, kinda thing. He certainly doesn't need a shield based on his rules, anyway. 

[Lord Marshal]

Heresy 3.0 was probably always inevitable just because the beancounters will have seen how the green line spikes whenever there's a new edition of something and mandated that a mainline game needs to fill that slot every year.

 

I think what'll be interesting is if, in 2028, we end up getting The Old World 2.0 instead, with the two of them alternating.

[HolyPestilience]

 

Rogal Dorn with a shield? Has he ever been described in the books as using a shield? Part of Dorn's limited charm is that he uses, basically, a bolt pistol and chainsword as his weapons. He is fundamentally awesome enough that he needs no awesome weapons, kinda thing. He certainly doesn't need a shield based on his rules, anyway. 

In one of the siege of Terra books (Saturnine) Dorn uses a shield and a greatsword. Iirc the greatsword did belong to a normal space marine but Dorn uses it single-handedly.

[SkimaskMohawk]

If you get burned by edition change driven churn, id honestly say just play 1st HH with the 6th edition BRB instead. You get all the fun of blast weapons with a ton of ways to get around them. You get artificer armour tanking with a lot of counter play. Durable vehicles that can be killed a variety of ways. Special characters actually feel special and change up list building. Units have more output in their turn than their opponents. 

 

I frankly don't trust this team on rules, especially if it turns into a 3 year cycle. For as terrible as 10ths release was, they've made efforts to fix things where they can; you can't have a team too busy writing expansions to bandaid the core rules on a 3 year rotation lol. 

[Evil Eye]

...Huh.

 

Do we really need new models of the Primarchs? The existing ones are pretty fantastic as is. Horus at least is a separate model based on his latter-day apppearance when the power of Chaos bloated him to monstrous proportions. I'd rather we didn't have the Primarchs all be redone. Especially Dorn, his model is pretty fantastic as is.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

 

New paints could be very interesting, though I am happy with my current selection. 

 

Iron Warriors is still around as far as I can tell. I hope it doesn't go away, I love it.

Yeah, I didn’t see an iron warriors slot at all just the iron hands

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

 

 

GW doesn't have a dropper bottle range, yet.

 

Army Painter is all 18 ml per bottle, same as GW's contrast paint flip-tops. The regular paint flip-tops from GW are 12 ml, I think.

So you’re getting more for less making it even cheaper lol

[Gorgoff]

 

 

They'd be foolish; their paint is one of the few things that actually feels worth the money spent, though with dropper bottles I would probably be willing to break the $5 a pot barrier, if only to save myself the time of transferring it to a dropper bottle on my own.

Currently do that and it's great, relatively easy, and very little paint is loss in the transition if you do it right.  Not having that loss would save money on two sides, so I'm definitely interested, just not at an egregious price point.

Their paints are already 6,30€ 

and at least their us price is 7.80$

 

New Dorn sounds like a 40k thing.

New edition sounds like cash grab but not unlikely. There had been nil FAQ lately. They started nicely by adding some but for quite some time now they did nothing in this direction. 

If they bring another one I dearly hope that it is just a tweaking of the core rules. Ironing out the big mistakes and bad writing but similar to @SkimaskMohawk I am unsure if that team is capable of succeeding in that regards. 

They made some really questionable decisions in the past and obviously corporate involvement had an impact as well. We will see I guess.

 

[Lexington]

Wouldn’t mind an HH refresh/revamp, honestly - the core’s nice, but there’s a lot of little changes that could improve it notably (nerfdreadsnerfdreadsnerfdreads), and the balance between the Legions was fairly out-of-whack out of the gate and hasn’t notably improved. If they can fix that sort of stuff while leaving the base, it’d be worth the price of a new rulebook or two, IMO.

 

“Pro” paints would be cool in the abstract, but it does run into the same problem that the current P3 paint line re-release does, which is that there are already ten hundred thousand gadjillion fantastic lines of model paint out there today. GW can probably get by with it in the same way they do now - ie. being the ubiquitous default - but it doesn’t really perk my ears up to hear about.

[Redcomet]

 

...Huh.

 

Do we really need new models of the Primarchs? The existing ones are pretty fantastic as is. Horus at least is a separate model based on his latter-day apppearance when the power of Chaos bloated him to monstrous proportions. I'd rather we didn't have the Primarchs all be redone. Especially Dorn, his model is pretty fantastic as is.

The current range is very hit and miss

[MithrilForge]

Like Wow GW always ahead err I mean "behind" the curve...  Dropper Bottled Pro paint... I'll leave that for the Fan Boi's and whales when it comes... I can get Two thin coats in my FLGS (Australia) now so I'm slowly transitioning my GW paints to 2 thin coats as they run out... I got annoyed when GW reformulated it's washes to slightly smaller amounts but put the price up... Classic GW 

 

M 

[Magos Takatus]

 

New paints could be very interesting, though I am happy with my current selection. 

 

Iron Warriors is still around as far as I can tell. I hope it doesn't go away, I love it.

 

Fantastic paint. Sadly, I'm out of it and have been on a quest to find a replacement in another range. I've found a whole lot of interesting iron colours with different applications, but not something that's the same.

 

 

I hope it's true, only in part as it'll make all the Space Wolves fans happy, but mainly because if I've got that right, then I should also hopefully be right that Perturabo and Dorn will be brought back during 11th 

 

If they don't release new modular fortress wall terrain at this time then their marketing/planning team would be better off restocking the shelves at Tesco.* 

 

*not that I look down on that, our village shop is franchise-owned by said company and my friends work there, and they are great. 

Edited September 17 by Magos Takatus
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[ThaneOfTas]

 

I think what'll be interesting is if, in 2028, we end up getting The Old World 2.0 instead, with the two of them alternating.

I could stomach six year cycles I think

[LameBeard]

 

I could stomach six year cycles I think

Yeah, and maybe we are getting ahead of ourselves. Maybe “new edition” had scare quotes for a reason, maybe it’s actually the Salamanders vs Iron Warriors boxed set that was a different rumour. Or has that one been debunked? Can’t remember if it was @Chapter Master Valrak or not. But not every rumour ends with Jeff Goldblum.

[Mogger351]

 

Like Wow GW always ahead err I mean "behind" the curve...  Dropper Bottled Pro paint... I'll leave that for the Fan Boi's and whales when it comes... I can get Two thin coats in my FLGS (Australia) now so I'm slowly transitioning my GW paints to 2 thin coats as they run out... I got annoyed when GW reformulated it's washes to slightly smaller amounts but put the price up... Classic GW 

 

M 

Whilst I echo the sentiment I don't think calling people who bought/like GW paints "fanbois and whales" is a good look.

[Orange Knight]

Lol the irony for me is significant. I collect Imperial Fists in 40k and constantly complain about lack of rule and unique model support.

 

I decided to jump on board with the Horus Heresy and started collecting the Ultramarines Legion. The joke is that Ultramarines have almost no model and rule support in this setting when compared to the Imperial Fists, and now I hear that the Fists are getting a new Dorn model? (One I will most certainly buy lol).

 

In all seriousness, I put my Legion together and have around 4-4.5k point of fully painted models. In the last few years I have played exactly 3 games. The games are long, a big commitment that requires the better part of a day, and as I get older I find that my group is less able to commit to such endeavours. I definitely am not interested in another edition for this game. The rule books themselves are monumental tomes with significant weight - I really don't want to think about a new set.

[Zoatibix]

I wouldn’t miss the current GW paint pots if the decide to replace those. 
 

Not a huge fan of droppers but they’re still better.

[MithrilForge]

 

Whilst I echo the sentiment I don't think calling people who bought/like GW paints "fanbois and whales" is a good look.

Apologies, I think you may have misconstrued what I said, 

i meant that when/ if the new dropper bottled super duper “pro painters” paint that will most likely be more expensive than their paint already is released , … I’ll leave that for the fan bois to gobble up .

Not meaning the standard paints which I happily use as well 

 

cheers Mithril 

[DemonGSides]

 

...Huh.

 

Do we really need new models of the Primarchs? The existing ones are pretty fantastic as is. Horus at least is a separate model based on his latter-day apppearance when the power of Chaos bloated him to monstrous proportions. I'd rather we didn't have the Primarchs all be redone. Especially Dorn, his model is pretty fantastic as is.

 

Someone's never looked at Roboute Guilliman from FW.
 

Original Primarch series of models can kind of be considered the "Beginning of the Heresy", whereas a lot of the models that are coming out (See Fulgrim) are more "Towards the end of the Heresy".

[phandaal]

 

Apologies, I think you may have misconstrued what I said, 

i meant that when/ if the new dropper bottled super duper “pro painters” paint that will most likely be more expensive than their paint already is released , … I’ll leave that for the fan bois to gobble up .

Not meaning the standard paints which I happily use as well 

 

cheers Mithril 

 

Yeah, the miniature-hobby paint space is pretty full at the moment. It is not unreasonable to assume that someone who buys a new "specialist" GW paint does so because they want to buy a GW product.

 

To be fair though, I thought the paint space was already fine until Army Painter released their new Fanatic and Speedpaint 2.0 lines. Then the quality blew me away, and now those are the main paints I use. Maybe GW will come out with another big hit like contrast paint.

 

GW must be feeling a hit on their existing paint sales from all of these alternatives. GW set the bar high with their contrast paints, then other companies followed them there and ate into that market, and now the regular paint space has been filled up with a ton of legitimately good alternatives for a lower price.

[Robbienw]

3 years between editions is way too soon.

[Lord Marshal]

 

 

Someone's never looked at Roboute Guilliman from FW.
 

 

I know opinions are subjective, but I've never understood the hate FW Roboute gets - especially compared to the atrocious 40k model. 

 

Edited September 17 by Lord Marshal