Rumour New Paint Range, Dropper Bottles and Rogal Dorn Rumours

[Evil Eye]

I was about to say. I really like the FW Guilliman. He looks properly statesman-like, as he should. I don't really see what a resculpt would actually add to him.

Some Primarchs are better than others for sure; Fulgrim's pose is a little wacky for my tastes. But that aside I actually think they did a superb job on all of them.

As for Dorn, he's definitely one of the really good ones. He's appropriately stoic as befits his character.

[DemonGSides]

 

 

I know opinions are subjective, but I've never understood the hate FW Roboute gets - especially compared to the atrocious 40k model. 

 

Believe it or not, but I have enough hate in my heart to hate both of them.

Crazy!

[DemonGSides]

 

I was about to say. I really like the FW Guilliman. He looks properly statesman-like, as he should. I don't really see what a resculpt would actually add to him.

Some Primarchs are better than others for sure; Fulgrim's pose is a little wacky for my tastes. But that aside I actually think they did a superb job on all of them.

As for Dorn, he's definitely one of the really good ones. He's appropriately stoic as befits his character.

 

I'm glad you posted both pictures so you can see the obvious differences between them.

G-man's scale is all out of whack; Weird head position, small quads, his powerfist makes very little sense gripping the sword sheath and also causes the entire left side of his upper torso to kind've devolve into a visual mess.  I like the greaves.  A very stumpy feeling sculpt, magnified by the gigantic base they include with him.

I think the G-Man's concept is great, the execution is bad.

Meanwhile, beautiful Rogal, great proportions, looking damn near exactly as you would expect him to.  Regal, Defiant, Strong.  A face that's only sort of meh compared to Gman's absolute weirdness of looking down his nose while also trying to look straight forward.  A small base that lets the character of the model breathe and make the statement, as opposed to Gman's literal staircase he's standing on (I think this is a problem with some of the FW Primarchs in general, which is why when they started including two different types of bases that the whole thing started to work a lot better).

Either way, tastes are subjective.

Edited September 17 by DemonGSides

[SkimaskMohawk]

He's on his full scenic base; the primarchs come with a gaming 40mm that slots into their huge scenic one. 

[Marshal Rohr]

Guilliman is not out of scale. The constituent parts of both models match. What you’re calling out of scale is the picture. Buy them and build them and you’ll see. 

[Borbarad]

 

HAHAHAHAHA

 

GW really is taking advantage of the fact people will pay for rules every few years. 

GW has changed … now you also need to pay for new models because your old ones were invalidated by the new rules 

[Orange Knight]

 

 

I'm glad you posted both pictures so you can see the obvious differences between them.

G-man's scale is all out of whack; Weird head position, small quads, his powerfist makes very little sense gripping the sword sheath and also causes the entire left side of his upper torso to kind've devolve into a visual mess.  I like the greaves.  A very stumpy feeling sculpt, magnified by the gigantic base they include with him.

I think the G-Man's concept is great, the execution is bad.

Meanwhile, beautiful Rogal, great proportions, looking damn near exactly as you would expect him to.  Regal, Defiant, Strong.  A face that's only sort of meh compared to Gman's absolute weirdness of looking down his nose while also trying to look straight forward.  A small base that lets the character of the model breathe and make the statement, as opposed to Gman's literal staircase he's standing on (I think this is a problem with some of the FW Primarchs in general, which is why when they started including two different types of bases that the whole thing started to work a lot better).

Either way, tastes are subjective.

 

The Guilliman showcased on the official site is very poor.

 

Something about the paint and angle. I can happily confirm that the model looks better in person and with a different paint job.

 

Here is my example:

 

 

 

[infyrana]

I would rather they finished releasing plastic heresy kits than a new set of rules.  Where are the plastic breachers and destroyers?  Will they remove them from the main rules like they did with the caestus ram if they fail to release the kits by then?  Just curious, as heresy is absolutely on hold for me until those kits come out.

[Joe]

Breachers and Destroyers have existing resin kits, so they aren't really at risk. The Caestus I'm pretty certain was due to the mould breaking, and not having a viable master to replace it with.

[DemonGSides]

 

 

The Guilliman showcased on the official site is very poor.

 

Something about the paint and angle. I can happily confirm that the model looks better in person and with a different paint job.

 

Here is my example:

 

 

 

 

Lacking that nightmare base definitely helps, but his face is still pretty bad.

Edited September 17 by DemonGSides

[Corswain]

Dorn desperately needs a resculpt - they forgot the moustache!

 

[Stitch5000]

 

I would rather they finished releasing plastic heresy kits than a new set of rules.  Where are the plastic breachers and destroyers?  Will they remove them from the main rules like they did with the caestus ram if they fail to release the kits by then?  Just curious, as heresy is absolutely on hold for me until those kits come out.

The release of kits and the release of rules aren't mutually exclusive... In fact new rules usually are accompanied by a spate of new models. 

Plus, you (we) really need to get over the Caestus. It has been unavailable and discontinued for something like a decade now yet STILL has relatively recently updated, current edition legacy (free) rules. 

[Orange Knight]

 

 

Lacking that nightmare base definitely helps, but his face is still pretty bad.

 

I think they were trying to make him look like Ceasar. It's not the best face, and he looks significantly different in 40k.

 

It fits him in the way he's described in the Heresy setting.

 

[DemonGSides]

 

 

I think they were trying to make him look like Ceasar. It's not the best face, and he looks significantly different in 40k.

 

It fits him in the way he's described in the Heresy setting.

 

 

It doesn't, it's pretty bad. The 40k sculpt of the face is also terrible though, so maybe it's just the Gman is just ugly as hell.  

[Orion]

I much prefer the 30k one to the goofy buzzlightyear guy in 40k.

 

But I still think the 30k one has issues.

The proportions  I think are causing more problems than the face sculpt.

 

His head is too big and legs a bit stumpy.

 

 

 

[Dark Shepherd]

 

 

Yeah, the miniature-hobby paint space is pretty full at the moment. It is not unreasonable to assume that someone who buys a new "specialist" GW paint does so because they want to buy a GW product.

 

To be fair though, I thought the paint space was already fine until Army Painter released their new Fanatic and Speedpaint 2.0 lines. Then the quality blew me away, and now those are the main paints I use. Maybe GW will come out with another big hit like contrast paint.

 

GW must be feeling a hit on their existing paint sales from all of these alternatives. GW set the bar high with their contrast paints, then other companies followed them there and ate into that market, and now the regular paint space has been filled up with a ton of legitimately good alternatives for a lower price.

GW reported for 2020 paint sales were flat even while everything else boomed

 

Losing Duncan/Peachy/Louise from GW (and erasing them) cant have helped, but then them all having very successful indie painting channels had to have hurt. And then 2 thin coats

[phandaal]

 

GW reported for 2020 paint sales were flat even while everything else boomed

 

Losing Duncan/Peachy/Louise from GW (and erasing them) cant have helped, but then them all having very successful indie painting channels had to have hurt. And then 2 thin coats

 

Did not know that about 2020 paint sales, but it does make sense. Thank you!

 

Will be interesting to see how a line of specialist GW paints in dropper bottles pans out. If they do for 12 ml like their regular paints, it will be 33.3% (repeating, of course) smaller than their competitors using 18 ml bottles, and the difference will be obvious. If they go for 18 ml like their Contrast line, and in line with their competitors, how do they price that?

[sarabando]

i just want twin power fist and very angry guilliman :D 

[aura_enchanted]

all im seeing here is halo tier products for tournament goers or for big whales

 

 

[Marshal Rohr]

The heads for all the resin primarchs are the same size. They made one single head and then modified each one. 

[TheMalius]

Ugh. Am I the only person who really dislikes dropper bottles? 

[Ahzek451]

 

Ugh. Am I the only person who really dislikes dropper bottles? 

Maybe, just curious however, what about them do you dislike?

[TheMalius]

 

Maybe, just curious however, what about them do you dislike?

 

I hate having to put a whole bunch of paint on a palette just to touch up a bit of paint work (I've always liked the little shelves citadel paints have), dropper bottles I've used drop inconsistent amounts of paint. I don't like not being able to see the paint when I'm working with it. And working from a pot just feels more natural to me.

[phandaal]

 

 

I hate having to put a whole bunch of paint on a palette just to touch up a bit of paint work (I've always liked the little shelves citadel paints have), dropper bottles I've used drop inconsistent amounts of paint. I don't like not being able to see the paint when I'm working with it. And working from a pot just feels more natural to me.

 

Something that helped for me was taking extra caps from water bottles and keeping those as quick, cheap holders for whatever amount of paint I want to use at a time. Even works for contrast/speedpaint. Almost always end up using everything in the cap without waste.

 

If I am using less than a single drop of paint, I will just put the brush right up on the dropper and squeeze out that way. Rare, but it does happen with touch-up work.

 

To be fair, pots are usually fine too. Only paints I have trouble with are Citadel metallics, which for some reason flow in such a way that a ton of it gets squished out around the cap whenever I close the lid. Feels like a lot gets wasted because of that.

[Lord Marshal]

 

 

I hate having to put a whole bunch of paint on a palette just to touch up a bit of paint work (I've always liked the little shelves citadel paints have), dropper bottles I've used drop inconsistent amounts of paint. I don't like not being able to see the paint when I'm working with it. And working from a pot just feels more natural to me.

 

I've found if I need a teeny tiny amount I can just screw off the lid and carefully get what I need - admittedly it's somewhat brand dependent.  Otherwise, I much prefer working with droppers 99% of the time, especially when doing mixes. 

 

Edited September 19 by Lord Marshal