Heresy Thursday Heresy Thursday - Mechanicum Battle Group

[Daylight]

Man, those look awesome. I hope LI gets a lot of support - haven’t been able to play a game yet, but working on putting together a legiones astartes battlegroup and I absolutely love the scale and models. 

[Burni]

This looks amazing. Exactly what I want! LI is the only GW game I’m following and buying for over in the last year, but I have been glancing longingly at the Heresy AM releases, so this is just a perfect release for me. 
 

I’m just worried that this is a HH 2nd ed style leak and we won’t see it for a long time, based on what they said during the roadmap (focusing SM & SA for the first couple of years).

 

Hopefully see them soon though, bring it on! My wallet is ready…

[Redcomet]

Lovely looking minis. I could see myself painting some of these to go with my AM tank army

[Valkyrion]

 

Battlegroups for Astartes and Solar Auxilia have 70 models/stands whereas I count 56 models here (52 stands + 4 Triaros).

 

My guess is that this will be a smaller format than the battlegroup boxes, with the equivalent of 4 individual boxes.

 

Infantry equivalent, 26 stands:

• Tech-Priest Auxilia (2)
• Adsecularis Tech-Thrall Covenant (10)
• Thallax Cohort (8)
• Myrmidon Secutor Host (2)
• Myrmidon Destructor Host (4)

Support equivalent, combining all battle-automata models, 18 stands (just 2  Vorax and 2 Vultarax seem quite low for one single sprue of fast attack alone imho)

• Archmagos Prime on Abeyant (2)
• Domitar Battle-Automata Maniple (2)
• Castellax Battle-Automata Maniple (4)
• Ursarax Cohort (4)
• Arlatax Battle-Automata Maniple (2)
• Vorax Battle-Automata Maniple (2)
• Vultarax Stratos-Automata Squadron (2)

Tank equivalent, 8 stands:

• Thanatar Siege-Automata Maniple (8)

Heavy tank equivalent, 4 models:

• Triaros (4)

That is pure speculation of course. Wait & see ...

 

Edit: In view of the number of actual models per stand, this might even be 3 boxes, Infantry, Battle-Automata (combining "Support" and "Tank" equivalents here above together), and Triaros.

 

 

I'm unlikely to play this set, but if I did the first changes I'd make would be for the Thallax and Castellax to be 2 to a base, increasing Thallax to 12 and Castellax to 6.

I'd need to see them in real life to be certain, but I'd probably extend the Ursarax and Vorax th same way; 2 to a base so 6 and 3. 

I can't tell if there are 4 or 5 tech thralls to a base - if there's 5 then it would definitely be reduced to 4, and might yet be reduced to 3. Would have to see it in real life. 

[Lord Marshal]

 

I’m just worried that this is a HH 2nd ed style leak and we won’t see it for a long time, based on what they said during the roadmap (focusing SM & SA for the first couple of years).

 

They mentioned a big reveal for LI 'soon' with the NOVA stuff right? So it may not be too far away, at least from an official reveal. I'd still bet on it being early 2025 though.

[Zoatibix]

There’s some impressive detail on those tiny people. 
 

I’m surprised by the range of different sorts of models in the box.

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

My wallet is already weeping!

[skylerboodie]

 

My wallet is already weeping!

With such a huge variety in one box though, it actual feels like you can buy 'one and done',  which I'm happy about. 

[vadersson]

Seriously!?!  Is this confirmed?  I had quit spending on LI based on lack of rules adjustments, but I would be all over this.  I almost can’t believe it.

[Interrogator Stobz]

Lolz, I've literally just finished spending on LI too.

Got about 4k of unpainted Astartes and the same of fully painted Solar, now this is on the horizon...

 

...Better get the Astartes painted up sooner rather than later.

 

Be rude not to have far too many of these delicious critters.

[Corswain]

I don't collect at this scale but it's exciting for those who do and I am impressed with the models. 

Fingers crossed it's an indicator of plastic kits to come for the larger scale.

[DuskRaider]

 

Seriously!?!  Is this confirmed?  I had quit spending on LI based on lack of rules adjustments, but I would be all over this.  I almost can’t believe it.

I don’t think it’s officially confirmed as of yet since it’s a leak, but I would expect to hear something soon since the cat is now out of the bag and running rampant. 
 

The bad news is that the rules still aren’t adjusted, though I have a feeling they’ll finally release a FAQ / Errata / fix for the release of Ad Mech. 

[Matrindur]

 

 

They mentioned a big reveal for LI 'soon' with the NOVA stuff right? So it may not be too far away, at least from an official reveal. I'd still bet on it being early 2025 though.

 

It is a finished box but without the contents otherwise they would have taken pics of those too. So this likely leaked somewhere between the printers for the boxes and the GW warehouse were they would be filled. Since its this and not finished boxes sitting in the warehouse getting sent out by mistake (which happened before) the box shouldn't be coming very soon but it could still be coming at the end of this year since the rest of 2024 is pretty empty from the few of the big games as they showed with their "roadmaps" at Nova.

 

Its also possible that the individual boxes are released earlier so October/November and this is a Christmas box thats coming in December. Would be a pretty fast turnaround but then again 40k Tyranids and SM also got Battleforces in 2023 only 10/6 weeks after the individual releases respectively

Edited September 22 by Matrindur

[DuskRaider]

They really got us good though with that “reveal” interview stating that any other factions for LI were years out. I don’t think many actually believed that, but it’s still pretty funny. 

[Chronotonic]

 

Hello Arlatax design

These things look a bit smaller than a thanatar and you only get two it looks like to the 8 Thanatars it says are in the box...

 

-Guess this means Ill have 11 Thanatars soon enough

[Dark Shepherd]

amazing how good LI models look when painted in non drab colours

 

LI badly needs an app or consolodated rulebook (in lieu of rules not being dripfed)

 

[ZeroWolf]

Might be worth mentioning here but Hersey Thursday is back this week. Might not reveal this but you never know.

[Xirix]

Considering they said they'd reveal the melee weapons first, I hope they do that.

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

It would be nice if GW remembered actual HH existed and released anything for Space Marines. The faction that bankrolls everyone else. Sick of all this crap. 

[DuskRaider]

 

It would be nice if GW remembered actual HH existed and released anything for Space Marines. The faction that bankrolls everyone else. Sick of all this crap. 

I do agree that they are stretching themselves a bit thin, but I don’t think LI is interfering with HH all that much. Do they still consider HH a specialist game or has it been changed to GW main? 
 

Even then, this technically is HH and is meant to be played alongside the 28mm game for campaign purposes. It doesn’t hurt or help that Ad Mech was recently released for the 28mm version and I’m sure most of these models are simply scaled down versions of the bigger ones. It makes sense to release these close to the bigger game, both to capitalize on recent popularity and to use the models for both scales in quick succession in order to focus on something else down the line. 

[01RTB01]

 

It would be nice if GW remembered actual HH existed and released anything for Space Marines. The faction that bankrolls everyone else. Sick of all this crap. 

 

Well, apart from breachers and cc weapons, we're pretty set. The pace of release has slowed but there are other things to be released. Honestly, the entitlement from your post is deafening. I don't play LI but I'm glad for those that waited for mechanicum to play. If it means I wait for plastic cc weapons a bit longer, I'll go paint something else.

 

I've been waiting since 1995/6 for plastic noise marines so maybe my patience is just inbuilt?

 

 

 

[Mandragola]

It’s certainly interesting how much they’re investing in LI, given that, from what I’ve seen, it hasn’t picked up all that much. People do play it but not in vast numbers, yet. 
 

For what it’s worth this looks like four boxes worth of stuff to me. Infantry, robots, thanatara and transports. 
 

I hope the domitar and arlatax are posable like contemptors kind of are. There’s clearly just one on whatever sprue they’re on and it would be a shame to have them all looking like a chorus line. Making units of them will be annoying enough if you need a sprue per robot. I’d have preferred it if they’d done something like a big and small robot split - maybe two than stars per sprue instead of four, with a few of each of these. The layout they’ve gone for limits build choice a lot. 

[Dark Shepherd]

 

It’s certainly interesting how much they’re investing in LI, given that, from what I’ve seen, it hasn’t picked up all that much. People do play it but not in vast numbers, yet. 
 

For what it’s worth this looks like four boxes worth of stuff to me. Infantry, robots, thanatara and transports. 
 

I hope the domitar and arlatax are posable like contemptors kind of are. There’s clearly just one on whatever sprue they’re on and it would be a shame to have them all looking like a chorus line. Making units of them will be annoying enough if you need a sprue per robot. I’d have preferred it if they’d done something like a big and small robot split - maybe two than stars per sprue instead of four, with a few of each of these. The layout they’ve gone for limits build choice a lot. 

Going by whats in or out of stock LI seems to be selling very well or beyond GW expectations at least

 

Like with Aeronautica Thunderhawks though Id say theres a big proportion of people buying models just for display/painting etc

[Petitioner's City]

 

It’s certainly interesting how much they’re investing in LI, given that, from what I’ve seen, it hasn’t picked up all that much. People do play it but not in vast numbers, yet. 
 

For what it’s worth this looks like four boxes worth of stuff to me. Infantry, robots, thanatara and transports. 
 

I hope the domitar and arlatax are posable like contemptors kind of are. There’s clearly just one on whatever sprue they’re on and it would be a shame to have them all looking like a chorus line. Making units of them will be annoying enough if you need a sprue per robot. I’d have preferred it if they’d done something like a big and small robot split - maybe two than stars per sprue instead of four, with a few of each of these. The layout they’ve gone for limits build choice a lot. 

 

Anything we are seeing now was likely decided to be made before the eventual launch - the multi-year lead in times. It will be interesting to see what happens in one to two years!

[Redcomet]

 

It’s certainly interesting how much they’re investing in LI, given that, from what I’ve seen, it hasn’t picked up all that much. People do play it but not in vast numbers, yet. 
 

For what it’s worth this looks like four boxes worth of stuff to me. Infantry, robots, thanatara and transports. 
 

I hope the domitar and arlatax are posable like contemptors kind of are. There’s clearly just one on whatever sprue they’re on and it would be a shame to have them all looking like a chorus line. Making units of them will be annoying enough if you need a sprue per robot. I’d have preferred it if they’d done something like a big and small robot split - maybe two than stars per sprue instead of four, with a few of each of these. The layout they’ve gone for limits build choice a lot. 

The first couple years of products was already in the production pipeline when the game released.