(From Asian chat groups) Titus "Recruit" Edition (10th ed 40k) out September 28

[ThaneOfTas]

 

Can't speak for this one specifically, but a lot of GWs boxed games are actually very good. People should actually give them a try rather than just dismissing them

Can confirm, after almost 6 years I finally gave Renegade a go recently, from the box with the two Knights, and it was honestly good fun. Not deep or complex but an enjoyable way to spend an afternoon playing through a bunch of missions.

[RWJP]

I think this will be of interest. My local GW store posted the following on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerPoole/posts/pfbid0L7G1cnKdoC4CWpXJywxEqf7ZGNEQWN2HZLeECDkR8bfCZULLxW6CJ7EB6zzbJLdZl?__cft__[0]=AZWj-_zBnvqPnoPAPAaPNXy1EHV3Z26uAXJJO-X_PUN-79WF4cr31n9ODZkdegR8Udf80weFyfZiMH7qFtz6YQ61kPhHEhpY1r0R7WHisWLkJlnuwjIyvsir7IGlU5c94zWdjZgt9_Db0kOdjYAyrJzySk0ns01eMcfUhfOhPRgs-1dmaMfFNu3MTL26sW0E5ls&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R

 

"To stave off the already large inundating of questions on the Titus set.

• It is out on Saturday morning- this week the 28th of September. We have 5 sets available on the day.

• It is not a permanent product. We may get a restock if there is still stock available when our stock order generates after the weekend.

• Until price is officially announced I can’t tell you no matter how many times you ask or how you phrase it!

• No we can’t put one aside as have a small allocation so it is first come first served"

I normally try to be positive about GW, but I can't help but feel that they've really dropped the ball here... Only 5 copies, with no guarantee of a restock, no guarantee of being able to order for later delivery...

For context, Warhammer Poole is located in a conurbation with a population of over 400k. We do have two GW stores in the conurbation, but assuming the other store has a similar allocation, we are talking a comically low number of sets available. The 40k hobby is pretty damn successful here as we also have two very successful FLGS with large gaming scenes so it's not like they've allocated based on how many customers there are.

Titus simply should have been sold on his own, available on or just after launch day of SM2 and should be either a permanent addition to the range, or at the very least a Made to Order.

 

[ZeroWolf]

I suspect he may become made to order eventually...a bit like Uriel Ventress (who I still need to get).

 

The stock allocation is a concern but not surprising as GW would have made the order at the beginning of the year, well before they could have seen how the game is currently doing. They could try and do a second wave but by the time they find an opening in the factory (pushing other things back) the hype could have died down.

[Orange Knight]

Sounds like it's more hassle than it's worth to be honest. The model is just ok, I feel some sentimentality towards it due to the games.

 

But GW are making this more difficult than it has to be, and I will not get involved in this rat race.

[Halandaar]

Absolutely comical level of mismanagement here. This is a guaranteed win, a license to print money and they've fumbled it so badly it makes their normal operations look competent!

 

Titus should have been available to buy (not pre-order) literally everywhere that stocks GW kits on the same weekend Space Marine II came out. It should have been a freebie bundled in the physical SMII collector's editions. And this recruit edition box, which is a perfectly fine idea, should have been available not just in GW stores and FLGS, but in every store that carries videogames and videogame merchandise, with paper advertising for it inside the physical SMII game boxes.

 

If you're trying to use it to bait new people into the hobby, they have to be able to BUY IT. Jesus Christ GW, 5 copies per Warhammer store with no prospect of restock, for a product you're pitching at new players which is also the only way veteran players can get the physical model that ties in to you most successful media property in decades? Honestly take a bow because the incompetence on show here is worthy of scientific study.

[Ramell]

Yeah, the SM2 collector's edition physical goodie should've been Titus, Gadriel, and Chairon as 40k models instead of that statue. Proper ones, not ETB. In fact, every Warhammer video game should be like that in my opinion. 

[darkhorse0607]

 

Absolutely comical level of mismanagement here. This is a guaranteed win, a license to print money and they've fumbled it so badly it makes their normal operations look competent!

 

Titus should have been available to buy (not pre-order) literally everywhere that stocks GW kits on the same weekend Space Marine II came out. It should have been a freebie bundled in the physical SMII collector's editions. And this recruit edition box, which is a perfectly fine idea, should have been available not just in GW stores and FLGS, but in every store that carries videogames and videogame merchandise, with paper advertising for it inside the physical SMII game boxes.

 

If you're trying to use it to bait new people into the hobby, they have to be able to BUY IT. Jesus Christ GW, 5 copies per Warhammer store with no prospect of restock, for a product you're pitching at new players which is also the only way veteran players can get the physical model that ties in to you most successful media property in decades? Honestly take a bow because the incompetence on show here is worthy of scientific study.

 

I mean it's a repeat of what happened with Total War. With the popularity of those games, do you know how much they'd rake in if they had launched a commemorative model with the second or third game? If they had done something like a Karl Franz miniature it would've sold like no other (a named one, not general on hippogriff)

 

But no

 

And now they did the same with Space Marine 2. It would've been easy money for them to come out with an actual (not this monstrosity) miniature for Titus, and a bonus would've been Gadriel and Chairon in a box with Titus. They could've gotten new folks with that who just went and tried to find something (like many did with Dawn of War) but didn't, plus all the people who have been asking for Titus model for the last 13 years

 

For a company that loves money above all, they make some really poor decisions that would be easy slam dunks for them

[Jukkiz]

as they mentioned in twitter/x, limited stock product

[ZeroWolf]

It's probably what they could squeeze in the factory's pipeline when they discovered the game was being delayed. Hard to fit in a lot against the oncoming Xmas boxes and the Lord of the Rings new edition.

[Domhnall]

 

Absolutely comical level of mismanagement here. This is a guaranteed win, a license to print money and they've fumbled it so badly it makes their normal operations look competent!

 

Titus should have been available to buy (not pre-order) literally everywhere that stocks GW kits on the same weekend Space Marine II came out. It should have been a freebie bundled in the physical SMII collector's editions. And this recruit edition box, which is a perfectly fine idea, should have been available not just in GW stores and FLGS, but in every store that carries videogames and videogame merchandise, with paper advertising for it inside the physical SMII game boxes.

 

If you're trying to use it to bait new people into the hobby, they have to be able to BUY IT. Jesus Christ GW, 5 copies per Warhammer store with no prospect of restock, for a product you're pitching at new players which is also the only way veteran players can get the physical model that ties in to you most successful media property in decades? Honestly take a bow because the incompetence on show here is worthy of scientific study.

 

So you're saying I shouldn't be contacting them when I'm putting together a party at the local beer maker? 

 

Does it say anywhere how much this is going to be? If it's in store only and limited quantity I'm sure people would be wanting to know if it's going to be worth the trip on for the chance to get one? 

Unfortunately, I'll not be able to make the trip into town for this one, but others might be swayed depending on price. 

[crimsondave]

If you're in the US just buy the Target box. It's still available from Target.  If you already have paints and stuff, it's a better deal anyway with double the  Nids.  It's $40 and you can sell the Nids if you want for $20.

 

https://www.target.com/p/games-workshop-space-marine-the-board-game/-/A-87877079#lnk=sametab

[DemonGSides]

Yep, and I've seen people online saying their local stores even have that version on clearance, so a really good deal. 

Edited September 25 by DemonGSides

[Craig]

This box is named the 'recruit edition'. It's not out of the realm of possibility that when this sells out GW will announce other editions as they have with other starter boxes that contain the Titus model also.

[Focslain]

 

Yep, and I've seen people online saying their local stores even have that version on clearance, so a really good deal. 

Yeah, my housemate grabbed me one on clearance. Not going to turn down 20 guants for 20 bucks. 

[Halandaar]

 

It's probably what they could squeeze in the factory's pipeline when they discovered the game was being delayed. Hard to fit in a lot against the oncoming Xmas boxes and the Lord of the Rings new edition.

 

Not having it. Space Marine 2 was announced in 2021. GW had an absolute minimum of 2 years to have been ready with this stuff for the original release date of Q4 2023. Delay to the release of the game should have given them more time to get their ducks in a row, not less. 

 

 

I mean it's a repeat of what happened with Total War. With the popularity of those games, do you know how much they'd rake in if they had launched a commemorative model with the second or third game? If they had done something like a Karl Franz miniature it would've sold like no other (a named one, not general on hippogriff)

 

To an extent I understand this more, as I think they were still pretty committed to Fantasy Battle not being part of their range while development of TW:W2 was happening. For 3 though, no excuses. GW had already announced they were working on The Old World by the time TW:W3 was announced. You're right that it is a pattern though; their Gabriel Angelos mini missed the release date of Dawn of War 3 by 3 months, by which point the game was already dead and buried.

[Focslain]

They might not have planned for SM2 to be as big of a hit as it was. Successful? Sure, but it has been really good. 

The recruit edition they're releasing was already planned for a worldwide release of Titus if the game did well, which it did. Now the production is on the next quarter releases. they could see about slotting another print later and release another limited run in January to hit after the premier of Secret Level.

 

Or just in general if the demand is there. 

[ZeroWolf]

 

They might not have planned for SM2 to be as big of a hit as it was. Successful? Sure, but it has been really good. 

The recruit edition they're releasing was already planned for a worldwide release of Titus if the game did well, which it did. Now the production is on the next quarter releases. they could see about slotting another print later and release another limited run in January to hit after the premier of Secret Level.

 

Or just in general if the demand is there. 

Especially since they work in three year cycles, they can't slam the brakes that easy to put in orders. They have releases planned out to 2027 by now. We talk of big guns not tiring? There factories certainly aren't!

[Tokugawa]

GW and its authors have their own pride(or arrogance): You pay us money, and we agree you to make video games with warhammer contents. That's all. We won't release any unique model or rules which designed by you, we won't mention stories from your game in our main canon storyline, and we can't plan any market campaign to hype your game.

 

In this way GW make less possible profits from successful video games, but also lose less to unsuccessful ones.

 

SM2 is different. It's aiming the best selling warhammer authorized game of all times. And it's about marine, marine is the most important. It's crucial to the promotion of the whole warhammer IP. GW is probably more active during the production of the game. e.g. the developers said that GW clearly disagree an in-game skin of "Khorne berzerker with sniper rifle". So Titus received a model.

[Indy Techwisp]

 

GW and its authors have their own pride(or arrogance): You pay us money, and we agree you to make video games with warhammer contents. That's all. We won't release any unique model or rules which designed by you, we won't mention stories from your game in our main canon storyline, and we can't plan any market campaign to hype your game.

 

In this way GW make less possible profits from successful video games, but also lose less to unsuccessful ones.

 

SM2 is different. It's aiming the best selling warhammer authorized game of all times. And it's about marine, marine is the most important. It's crucial to the promotion of the whole warhammer IP. GW is probably more active during the production of the game. e.g. the developers said that GW clearly disagree an in-game skin of "Khorne berzerker with sniper rifle". So Titus received a model.

 

He received a model that is not legal to field.

Edited September 26 by Indy Techwisp
attempting to manually add the italics formating didn't work.