Brother Monty Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 I've been wanting to get i to another army [I'm a Templar] and I wanted to know what the space dwarves are like? What's it like to paint them? What's the community like? What are the jokes? How do they play? And any fun charecters I should look into. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384151-what-are-the-votann-like/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 I am only just getting into it myself @Brother Monty but the community is awesome. You had quite a sizeable 'space dwarf' group which from what I can gather had never really gone away from the 90s (waiting for the GW hivemind to pass above them, not knowing some Squats still hid deep and undetectable in the earth ) and those have picked up to include the new Votann background fluff and releases. I love painting them (the dwarf in space concept fits so well, and the new GW minis are just awesome). The Squat jokes just write themselves really.. and I think anyone that plays them, like Orks, can't take themselves too seriously so the community generally seems quite relaxed and fun. Rules-wise I can't help I'm afraid as I don't play the latest 40k editions (just One Page Rules and old 2nd edition) so will let someone else answer there! apologist and phandaal 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384151-what-are-the-votann-like/#findComment-6068532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Monty Posted October 4 Author Share Posted October 4 .. and I think anyone that plays them, like Orks, can't take themselves too seriously so the community generally seems quite relaxed and fun. I was a bit worried people would actually take the “that’s going in the book” a bit too serious… Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384151-what-are-the-votann-like/#findComment-6068553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Clock Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 Painting - kinda like oldmarines? Look great with a limited pallete, but lots of space to get fancy when you want. Sub-assemblies will be your friend on vehicles and heavy infantry, but the fits are so precise that final assembly is usually a breeze, and you can skate on painting heads separately due to dome helmets in most cases. Community is... odd, but amazing? There seems to be an equal mix of vintage grognards wanting RT Squats and Deep Rock Galactic refugees, leavened by a slid number who are both lol. This is the sub-forum I've found with the most liberal attitudes as to what 'counts' as Votann/Squats. Jokes are usually based on pining for Rogue Trader; exalting the Men of Gold and Men of Iron; Land Trains; Grudging and grumbling in equal measure; still being used as a verb for 'heedless faction destruction'; threats of resetting clocks. They play pretty straightforward and 'fair' 40k. Nothing is that flashy, but everything is pretty flashy and the combos honestly feel good. It's all buoyed by everything kinda being tougher than one would expect. Basic archetypes will have redundancy in at least: reinforced Pioneers, Sagitaurs, Zerkforts, Hearthguard. Characters: Einhyr Champion w/ hammer - 1 is mandatory, 2 if you can. Cheers, The Good Doctor. N1SB, SvenIronhand, Brother Monty and 3 others 2 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384151-what-are-the-votann-like/#findComment-6068642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 This is the sub-forum I've found with the most liberal attitudes as to what 'counts' as Votann/Squats. This may be due to just how many proxies have sprung up over the years, and how well the Space Dwarf aesthetic translates to all kinds of different settings. Speaking of which, Treadhead Rad's Supermassive Kickstarter just wrapped up! Looking forward to some new infantry with breacher shields being delivered to my hard drive. Printer is about to go Brrrrrr. Pacific81 and Dr. Clock 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384151-what-are-the-votann-like/#findComment-6069128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Clock Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 This may be due to just how many proxies have sprung up over the years, and how well the Space Dwarf aesthetic translates to all kinds of different settings. For sure! It was definitely derelict design space as far as GW was concerned, but in that space people just kept on keeping on - like longbeards should. Cheers, The Good Doctor. Pacific81 and phandaal 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384151-what-are-the-votann-like/#findComment-6069365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karak Norn Clansman Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 (edited) @Brother Monty A teaser as to our flora of Squat jokes: Edited November 13 by Karak Norn Clansman Dr. Clock, phandaal and Pacific81 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384151-what-are-the-votann-like/#findComment-6075566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tychobi Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 Squats cosplaying as space marines? Some fun models but kinda split oddly between space Viking and cosmonaut vibes. With a dash of fantasy dwarf sprinkled awkwardly on top in token form. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384151-what-are-the-votann-like/#findComment-6075634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exius Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 Would love to hear more on how they play! I absolutely love the dwarf aesthetic and throwing in their armour just makes then look even more awesome Firedrake Cordova 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384151-what-are-the-votann-like/#findComment-6079802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Clock Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 On 11/13/2024 at 3:47 PM, tychobi said: kinda split oddly between space Viking and cosmonaut vibes Once I realized that the vibe is basically New Gods by way of space Lego, I was completely sold. I know it's a little awkward to some, but I really dang on the fact that they are actually fully technically superior to basic longshanks, and as a clone-soldier society basically Groundhogs to the Wolves of the Astartes. They have a certain nostalgic sci-fi alternate history thing going of course, but the fact of its focal point is apparently more 80s-90s make me want to coin a word like 'Shuttlepunk' for stuff based around the later periods of space exploration and NASA ascendancy rather than WWII Dieselpunk or Victorian Steampunk. I also love the extent to which the cyborg and AI vibes bring them forward into Cyberpunk as well. I think of them as a logical cosmic extension of Appleseed's Bioroids, or even Bladerunner Replicants in a way that the Imperium doesn't. Before the Emperor, Chaos was a problem for humanity. So the android-clones said 'okay we won't be human - we'll be better'. And they were! This is quite a broad swathe of historical sci-fi vibes that I think didn't really show up in 40k enough before we got Leagues... I really appreciate that it IS so broad and distinct from the other offerings even though it's clearly continuous with and in reference to the rest of established styles. So you say 'cosplaying space marines', I say 'Astartes precedent'. Cheers, The Good Doctor. phandaal and Pacific81 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384151-what-are-the-votann-like/#findComment-6079830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 22 hours ago, Dr. Clock said: snip I would Agree, Thumbs-up, and Support this all at once if I could. Agreed on everything. Also, for the folks who wish Votann were more traditionally "dwarf-themed," there are in fact fully-fledged proxy ranges that lean heavily into that blocky, angular aesthetic, and they look really good too! Anyone would like to see some examples can browse my Norse Votann thread. Here is a post comparing infantry from 4 different ranges, including GW: https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376468-norse-votann/page/5/#findComment-6075119 Dr. Clock and Pacific81 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384151-what-are-the-votann-like/#findComment-6080066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenIronhand Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 23 hours ago, Dr. Clock said: Once I realized that the vibe is basically New Gods by way of space Lego, I was completely sold. You have my attention. Dr. Clock 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384151-what-are-the-votann-like/#findComment-6080067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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