Brother Monty Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 I love painting Templars and want to do a custom crusade icon but I can’t get my hands to stop shaking to get details, I can only do a black/green checkerboard but I want more, any tips from pros? Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf and Antarius 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 Not a pro by any means, but my hands do shake. The key is to position your hands so that they are resting on something while you paint. Think of it like when you rest your hand on paper when writing with a pen and pencil. This video has a great quick example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6la8xtHkCE Antarius, MithrilForge, Firedrake Cordova and 4 others 2 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6068592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madao Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 Both hands should touch each other during the painting. They should start shaking together in sync - effectively not moving relative to themselves. It works for me at least. And limit caffeine if possible MithrilForge, Dr. Clock and Ramell 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6068593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 I recommend bracing the inside of your wrists together; and if possible, touching pinky tips together. Dr. Clock and Ramell 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6068596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Monty Posted October 4 Author Share Posted October 4 And limit caffeine if possible I don’t drink caffeine I just have ADHD. Monstra Sumus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6068601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Potato Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 I recommend bracing the inside of your wrists together; and if possible, touching pinky tips together. This. Wrists together. Massively, massively stabilises the hands. If you can, once your wrists are touching, try rotate your wrists into each other as well. Also works if you ever shoot a belt fed machine off a bipod, for what it’s worth… Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6068604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Zeal Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 I'm no pro, but I shall humbly offer up the old dog biscuit that my advice equates to! If you don't already do so, I'd recommended using a painting handle. A comfortable, relaxed grip on something with an ergonomic shape will ease the tension in your hand and wrist, granting you greater dexterity and control over objects in your hand. Aside from professionally designed handles by GW and other hobby manufacturers, there's all sorts of ways you can create your own handle at home. No doubt some of our cunning brethren here can share some wisdom involving blu tack or adhesive tape. In a similar vein, the shape and thickness of your brush handle is also something to consider - brushes with handles that are excessively thick or drastically thin will put a lot of strain on your fingers while you paint. It's always worth trying brushes from different manufacturers when you get the chance, as you might find the slightest difference in design that translates to greater comfort and control. And finally, a skill that has taken me years to develop - don't overthink! Sometimes when you're so deep in the zone and full to the brim with determination and intent, the intensity of your focus can cause the very errors you are trying so hard to avoid. Calm breathing, a relaxed posture and a good point on your brush = victory! Mysterion, jaxom, Antarius and 4 others 3 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6068605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 several options 1. brace your hands together in a cup shape to hold the brush and mini and rest your elbows on the desk 2. Breath lots of people hold their breath when painting details 3. Look at a hobby vice to hold your minis and then attach it to a angle poise mount Firedrake Cordova 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6068606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 (edited) There's some good advice above, but I'll add another: use a magnifier (I find this helps with precision and visibly reduces shakiness). If you do anchor your elbows on a surface, it can lead to your arms/hands moving with your pulse (if you notice this, just move them slightly, or anchor your forearms on the table edge instead). There's a few videos on YouTube, which includes dealing with tremors. Edited October 4 by Firedrake Cordova Antarius 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6068630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 My hands are bad. they shake badly. the best advice I can give it to try and brace your hands close to the model and with your desk. rest them a lot. it's annoying but if you just can't get the detail right now, then come back to it later. try to paint earlier in the day. the later in the day it gets, the worse my hands get. have patience with yourself. Firedrake Cordova and Antarius 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6068641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nathan Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 I currently paint standing but a few things that made it easier. Elbows... either against belly or on a surface. Wrists hands. I painst with palm heals together pinky side. Grip. If fingers bothersome get a holder/paint pot. If grip struggling look at brush aids/thickening handle to give control. Posture. Take out shake points. Comfort helps sure but office position if supposed yo be in place to help body over time (feet flat parallel. Butt flat. Back straight etc) Firedrake Cordova 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6068656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 I drink caffeine like it’s going out of style and I smoke like a chimney. My technique is to have one of my fingers resting on my other hand or arm, acting as sort of an anchor, though if I concentrate on it, I can usually limit any shake I naturally have to an extent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6068664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arikel Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 1) brace your arms as mentioned. I like elbows on the table or my forearms on the table edge 2) make sure you aren’t hungry. My shakes are much worse if my tummy is rumbling 3) If you take medication for your adhd, many of them are stimulants, which tend to increase shakiness. You could check with your doctor if it would be ok to skip a day on days you plan to paint in that case. Mine for example told me I could skip my adhd med on the weekends if I wished to, and just take it on working days. 4. Fill in main painting areas after detail painting. For example on my space marines I do my shoulder trim and other armour details first, then fill in with the main armour colour on the plate areas. Easier to paint over than trying to keep the trim colour going everywhere. Firedrake Cordova and MithrilForge 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6069164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenIronhand Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Touch a dry area of the mini with your off hand while you paint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6069332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 If you want to get rid of your hands, you'll have to go to a local surgeon or failing that invest in a good meat cleaver. ...I'll get me coat. In all seriousness: On 10/4/2024 at 5:19 PM, Brother Monty said: I don’t drink caffeine I just have ADHD. Ouch, I can relate hard. It's one of the reasons I never finish anything... Magos Takatus and Monstra Sumus 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6070482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gideon stargreave Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 Check out the youtuber MS Paints. (he swears so I won't link). He often talks about painting techniques to deal with his own chronic illness. Grotsmasha 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6070560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittlePlasticHomies Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 Long distance running - hands are noticeably calmer on days when I get my miles in. zulu.tango 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6070727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu.tango Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 On 10/14/2024 at 12:21 PM, LittlePlasticHomies said: Long distance running - hands are noticeably calmer on days when I get my miles in. Strength/resistance training also helps with tremors/shaking. Its a recommended treatment for people with Essential Tremors (ET), helps build hand/arm strength and conditioning. Can be as simple as resistance bands, and has the double benefit of making you a better painter and a healthier person. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6071488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 On 10/4/2024 at 5:27 PM, Brother Zeal said: I'm no pro, but I shall humbly offer up the old dog biscuit that my advice equates to! If you don't already do so, I'd recommended using a painting handle. A comfortable, relaxed grip on something with an ergonomic shape will ease the tension in your hand and wrist, granting you greater dexterity and control over objects in your hand. Aside from professionally designed handles by GW and other hobby manufacturers, there's all sorts of ways you can create your own handle at home. No doubt some of our cunning brethren here can share some wisdom involving blu tack or adhesive tape. In a similar vein, the shape and thickness of your brush handle is also something to consider - brushes with handles that are excessively thick or drastically thin will put a lot of strain on your fingers while you paint. It's always worth trying brushes from different manufacturers when you get the chance, as you might find the slightest difference in design that translates to greater comfort and control. And finally, a skill that has taken me years to develop - don't overthink! Sometimes when you're so deep in the zone and full to the brim with determination and intent, the intensity of your focus can cause the very errors you are trying so hard to avoid. Calm breathing, a relaxed posture and a good point on your brush = victory! I have to agree with all these points, a good sturdy handle and quality brushes were a game changer for me, I noticed a reduction in hand shake right away. Also finding a comfortable position I can sit in, resting my arms and hands were possible and taking my time helped, taking regular breaks if the shakes get too much, staying hydrated and avoiding energy drinks, coffee or anything caffeine or sugar-related. Firedrake Cordova 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6072168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstra Sumus Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 ADHD shaker here. The trick I use is to not only brace on hand against the other (Outside edge of pinky finger to the outside edge of the opposite middle finger), but to also use a Citadel mini holder (the ugly black thing that clamps to the base and gives my non dominant hand a good grip to hold). Then when I line up for painting something I take a deep breath and then paint after the exhale, I find I'm far less shaky at that moment. Sure it means my painting takes longer but it looks far better than if I rush it with jazz hands. Brother Monty and Firedrake Cordova 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6072755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 I haven't read all the replies and I apologize if this was already mentioned, but I use a Jucoci painting handle that has a metal rod attachment for support that you can rest your hand against when painting. I've found it considerably helpful. I know Amazon has them if you wanted to take a look at one? Brother Monty and Firedrake Cordova 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384160-is-there-a-way-to-get-rid-of-shaking-hands-while-painting/#findComment-6072796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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