EC Rumours

[Macidious]

7 minutes ago, jimbo1701 said:

it’s a shame they have steered away from vs boxed sets in recent years. Corsairs vs EC would have made for an absolute stunner of a set. 

I was just thinking that I miss the vs box sets I think the last one was vashtorr and chaos vs dark angels 

[ZeroWolf]

It seems to be a thing that died off with the end of 9th. Guess they weren't performing as well as GW wanted or feedback wasn't grand.

[Doctor Perils]

3 hours ago, Redcomet said:

I can see where this could go. He does, and wins. In order to get revenge. And extra angry Bjorn demands a better body, gets a Redemptor chassis, and turns Lucius to paste

And then Bjorn turns into Lucius, and the Wolves go berserk at the indignity...

[Mogger351]

1 hour ago, ZeroWolf said:

It seems to be a thing that died off with the end of 9th. Guess they weren't performing as well as GW wanted or feedback wasn't grand.

There was a constant undertone of complaints for people who only wanted one half, or didn't want the old minis, or didn't like the content being soft locked for months. So I can see why they moved away from them.

[ZeroWolf]

21 minutes ago, Doctor Perils said:

And then Bjorn turns into Lucius, and the Wolves go berserk at the indignity...

Unless he does what the other Space Wolf did with the grenade trick

[siegfriedfr]

1 hour ago, Mogger351 said:

There was a constant undertone of complaints for people who only wanted one half, or didn't want the old minis, or didn't like the content being soft locked for months. So I can see why they moved away from them.

Yep, terrible products forcing you to buy clutter you didn't need. Glad they focus on faction army sets, which make more sense and are solely focused on new minitaures.

[Dark Shepherd]

39 minutes ago, siegfriedfr said:

Yep, terrible products forcing you to buy clutter you didn't need. Glad they focus on faction army sets, which make more sense and are solely focused on new minitaures.

They also get a more accurate barrometer of sales for each faction

[Jukkiz]

Fulgrim's corruption to Slaanesh started by him picking up a daemon possessed sword on the planet Laer, right?

The planet is aquatic, and its inhabitants were eel-like creatures with multiple limbs and some with wings. It's also strongly implied that that's not their natural state and they altered themselves into this form. They were devouts of Slaanesh, if i remember right?

So that´s why, i think Fulgrim looks like that now

[Forté]

18 hours ago, Grimtooth said:

As for anything else to come; it seems that GW isn’t just catering to making EC the “Noise Marines Army”. The EC are slaves to perfection and excess in everything, not just making loud noises with modified instruments from a concert 10k years ago. 

100% this.

 

If there aren't some form of stimulated close combat perfectionists, and some bolter welding sharpshooters who could take the wings off a fly while blindfolded, then I'll be highly disappointed.

[soviet1337]

Fulgrim looks spectacular. All the demon primarchs look great. I prefer the plastic Fulgrim to the resin one both in design and practicality. Although the resin one is also very nice. 

[Grimtooth]

15 minutes ago, Forté said:

100% this.

 

If there aren't some form of stimulated close combat perfectionists, and some bolter welding sharpshooters who could take the wings off a fly while blindfolded, then I'll be highly disappointed.

Yup. 
 

A “balanced” EC theme would have anything and everything that is pleasurable in combat represented. That is why I think the rumors of mutated swordsman all hyped up on Mt Dew and whippets is a strong indicator of GW’s intent because it highlights another aspect of combat other than loud noises. When you add the rumor of EC Legionaires into the mix, that means another non-noisy aspect of combat they want to exhibit with Slaanesh flair. It could be combat related, drug related, modifications to implant related, etc, etc. 

 

Fabius made many enhancements to EC far beyond the implant of the Laer vocal cord thing. 

 

[LSM]

4 hours ago, Grimtooth said:

Yup. 
 

A “balanced” EC theme would have anything and everything that is pleasurable in combat represented. That is why I think the rumors of mutated swordsman all hyped up on Mt Dew and whippets is a strong indicator of GW’s intent because it highlights another aspect of combat other than loud noises. When you add the rumor of EC Legionaires into the mix, that means another non-noisy aspect of combat they want to exhibit with Slaanesh flair. It could be combat related, drug related, modifications to implant related, etc, etc. 

 

Fabius made many enhancements to EC far beyond the implant of the Laer vocal cord thing. 

 

 

Counter point: "combat related, drug related, modifications to implant related", and likes things (visually and audibly) loud.

 

Noise Marines do drugs. Noise Marines love the melee. Noise Marines fire their Bolters, chuck their grenades, stab and explode and flense... to a beat. They whirl through opponents, their swords singing as the tongues on their armour lap at the blood spilled. They grind their chainswords against the bones of fearful adversaries. One might roar out a deafening bellows before charging in with their Thunder Mauls to drum their opponents into screaming paste.

 

Like take Lucius. A "perfect swordsman" (for an insane definition of perfect) who stomps around with a daemon-whip growing out of his one arm, a massive combat drug dispenser on his back, and... clothed in The Armour of Shrieking Souls, which screams enemies to death.

 

//

 

Fabius did make other enhancements than Sonic Lances. (He even fell behind the Legion before they were vastly improved into Doom Sirens.)

 

Fabius was not the only fleshcrafter in the Legion, and not all modifications are undertaken via the knife - Slaanesh gives their gifts to the worthy. A Noise Marine's bizarre appearance is as often mutated as it is installed.

 

//

 

(Until the codex comes out and puts a stop to me, I will continue to be a proponent of Noise Marines as a diverse concept.)

Edited December 27, 2024 by LSM

[Orange Knight]

I think there was a missed opportunity when it comes to the face options...

 

 

[01RTB01]

2 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

I think there was a missed opportunity when it comes to the face options...

 

 

Honestly, if I could 3d print it, I'd take it over the options we've been given lol

[Macidious]

I need leaaakkkkssss 

[Hathor42]

10 hours ago, Orange Knight said:

I think there was a missed opportunity when it comes to the face options...

 

 

But it's the same look. Does no one see that? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills! 

[Macidious]

I hope we might see a teaser on new years of what’s to come this year , maybe a noise marine silhouette or Lucius 

[phandaal]

Spoiler

On 12/26/2024 at 9:28 PM, Orange Knight said:

I think there was a missed opportunity when it comes to the face options...

 

 

 

 

Life, uh, finds a way:

 

https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-zoolander-marine-head-447101

[01RTB01]

56 minutes ago, phandaal said:

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

 

Life, uh, finds a way:

 

https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-zoolander-marine-head-447101

Thank you, the best dollar I've ever spent lol.

[Hathor42]

I'm hoping for a 2v1 with fulgrim and his two brothers. They did it with night haunter, and it was a fun fight. They have a nice pre-battle chat before his brothers put on their helmets , hen Fulrim raises his hands , is weapons appearing right before his own helmet forms over his head , and the fight begins. 

[Orange Knight]

56 minutes ago, Hathor42 said:

I'm hoping for a 2v1 with fulgrim and his two brothers. They did it with night haunter, and it was a fun fight. They have a nice pre-battle chat before his brothers put on their helmets , hen Fulrim raises his hands , is weapons appearing right before his own helmet forms over his head , and the fight begins. 

 

This would be pretty cool imo.

 

Guilliman and the Lion reunited, and together they battle Fulgrim.

It would make sense that Fulgrim is so skilled he could take both on in a duel.

[darkseren1ty]

Honestly, I wonder what fulgrims profile will be like.

 

he’ll probably have a smash/slash melee profile, possibly extra attacks with one of his other weapons/tail. 
maybe the whip will be ranged 12”?

 

but the BIG thing for me will be his abilities. He’ll typically have the: pick 1 of 3 options that all the BBEGs have gotten in 10th, canonically, he shouldn’t have auras buffing his troops unless you count the thing where they want to impress him by killing better. 
 

That being said, I expect him to have 3 options like:

1. Friendly EC in 6” range can reroll hit rolls or add +1 to hit rolls.

2. Friendly EC in 6” range get fights first

3. friendly EC in 6” range can reroll battle shocks (because GW insists on doing this)

 

his statline:

 

M 16” T11 save 2+ (4++) W 16 Ld 5+ OC 6

weapon profile:

smash A 10 WS 2+ S 16 AP -3 D 3+D3

slash A 18 WS 2+ S 8 AP -1 D 2

 

range A D6 BS 2+ S 8 AP -2 D 2

 

and if they wanted to be really fluffy, when you kill fulgrim- you can’t claim bring it down or slay the warlord coz he scoots off to the warp before that happens. But I doubt they’ll do that.

 

hopefully there’ll be a nice army rule for him to synergize with too.

[Macidious]

36 minutes ago, darkseren1ty said:

Honestly, I wonder what fulgrims profile will be like.

 

he’ll probably have a smash/slash melee profile, possibly extra attacks with one of his other weapons/tail. 
maybe the whip will be ranged 12”?

 

but the BIG thing for me will be his abilities. He’ll typically have the: pick 1 of 3 options that all the BBEGs have gotten in 10th, canonically, he shouldn’t have auras buffing his troops unless you count the thing where they want to impress him by killing better. 
 

That being said, I expect him to have 3 options like:

1. Friendly EC in 6” range can reroll hit rolls or add +1 to hit rolls.

2. Friendly EC in 6” range get fights first

3. friendly EC in 6” range can reroll battle shocks (because GW insists on doing this)

 

his statline:

 

M 16” T11 save 2+ (4++) W 16 Ld 5+ OC 6

weapon profile:

smash A 10 WS 2+ S 16 AP -3 D 3+D3

slash A 18 WS 2+ S 8 AP -1 D 2

 

range A D6 BS 2+ S 8 AP -2 D 2

 

and if they wanted to be really fluffy, when you kill fulgrim- you can’t claim bring it down or slay the warlord coz he scoots off to the warp before that happens. But I doubt they’ll do that.

 

hopefully there’ll be a nice army rule for him to synergize with too.

I don’t think he will move 16 , probably like 14 just to be a bit faster than his brothers but yeah I’m excited to see what he can do 

[ZeroWolf]

9 hours ago, Hathor42 said:

I'm hoping for a 2v1 with fulgrim and his two brothers. They did it with night haunter, and it was a fun fight. They have a nice pre-battle chat before his brothers put on their helmets , hen Fulrim raises his hands , is weapons appearing right before his own helmet forms over his head , and the fight begins. 

It definitely could happen though if other rumours are true, it won't be 2 v 1 for long as once Fulgrim loses a moment’s to the joyous rapture of the thought of killing Roboute a second time, Leman Russ will drop down and spear him through the head. Turning it into a 3 v 1 and quickly banishing snake boy as that's how things go now. The demon Primarchs are now distractions.

[Macidious]

16 minutes ago, ZeroWolf said:

It definitely could happen though if other rumours are true, it won't be 2 v 1 for long as once Fulgrim loses a moment’s to the joyous rapture of the thought of killing Roboute a second time, Leman Russ will drop down and spear him through the head. Turning it into a 3 v 1 and quickly banishing snake boy as that's how things go now. The demon Primarchs are now distractions.

I think it would make it more interesting than just a plot armour heavy 1v1 , like having 2 loyal primarchs fighting 1 demon primarch you can understand the definite loss of the demon one