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4 hours ago, 01RTB01 said:

They were good books, this is super shiny. Considering the 'collectors' edition codexes are double the normal price, I'm assuming this will be around $200CAD in which case I'd bow out I think

yeah I mean, I very well could see that. Remember the old Khorne one. It was metal! lol haha. thing was heavy.

 

Not going to lie. I have been looking at that codex on and off all day. It really is beautiful. I kinda hope all armies get this sort of treatment.

Random little detail I noticed: the Noise Marine's shoulder pad speakers match their backpack speakers. (ie. the one with two fangs, the one with the ring in the nose, etc.)

 

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(Unfortunately for me, as I was hoping that the Noise Marines kit would come with a bunch of interesting shoulder pads I could distribute amongst my Tormentors/Infractors. But if they are matched, that probably means there's just six in the kit.)

2 minutes ago, Macidious said:

Really hoping we might get some leaks soon, hopefully if this weekend they finally announce the fomo box we can finally see some cracks 

Fulgrims complete rule leak was out yesterday.

 

M16” T10 W16 2+/4++ OC 6

Melee strike: A6 WS2+ S14 AP-3 D6+1 dmg sustained 1

melee sweep: A12 WS2+ S8 AP-2 D2 dmg sustained 1 

extra attacks: A6 WS2+ S6 AP-1 D1 dmg

ranged: A1 BS2+ S8 AP-2 D2 dmg precision

 

abilities:

Choose an enemy unit in engagement and make em suffer d3 mortals on 4+ 

choose 1/3 of the following each command phase:

-fights first

—1 to hit

-battleshock enemies in engagement

 

385pts in the codex

 

translated from French, and I’m a bit rusty, so might have mucked up a few deets

Just now, darkseren1ty said:

Fulgrims complete rule leak was out yesterday.

 

M16” T10 W16 2+/4++ OC 6

Melee strike: A6 WS2+ S14 AP-3 D6+1 dmg sustained 1

melee sweep: A12 WS2+ S8 AP-2 D2 dmg sustained 1 

extra attacks: A6 WS2+ S6 AP-1 D1 dmg

ranged: A1 BS2+ S8 AP-2 D2 dmg precision

 

abilities:

Choose an enemy unit in engagement and make em suffer d3 mortals on 4+ 

choose 1/3 of the following each command phase:

-fights first

—1 to hit

-battleshock enemies in engagement

 

385pts in the codex

 

translated from French, and I’m a bit rusty, so might have mucked up a few deets

Wasn’t that just the “leak” from the guy that said vindicators , predators , hellbrutes and forgefiends aren’t gonna be in the codex?

5 minutes ago, darkseren1ty said:

Well, I hope it’s not true. Coz it seems a bit underwhelming tbh
 

the lack of force multiplying options with fulgrim is thematic, but I’m not sure how that’ll translate in game

Well hopefully next week we will start to see some official stuff 

29 minutes ago, darkseren1ty said:

Well, I hope it’s not true. Coz it seems a bit underwhelming tbh
 

the lack of force multiplying options with fulgrim is thematic, but I’m not sure how that’ll translate in game

 

It's crazy you find him anemic while I'm sitting here wishing Mortarion were half as strong.  Just give me Fulgrims sweep profile and I would be happy with the rest of the anchors he's got.

 

Layer on a fights first ability and boy howdy I find him quite strong. 

26 minutes ago, HeadlessCross said:

Or even this week. There has to be some influencer that doesn't care about getting anything early anymore and will go over the rules for the hell of it. 

Cause if it ever got back to gw that they were the ones that leaked it they’ll never get anything from gw again , not worth the risk 

20 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

 

It's crazy you find him anemic while I'm sitting here wishing Mortarion were half as strong.  Just give me Fulgrims sweep profile and I would be happy with the rest of the anchors he's got.

 

Layer on a fights first ability and boy howdy I find him quite strong. 

This is the kind of talk I've heard. There's some saying that EC are really strong while others are the complete opposite with very few in the middle saying "these look fun to play with/against"

7 minutes ago, ZeroWolf said:

This is the kind of talk I've heard. There's some saying that EC are really strong while others are the complete opposite with very few in the middle saying "these look fun to play with/against"

Well we shall see soon enough 

5 minutes ago, INKS said:

Regardless of leaks or stats, GW themselves said that Fulgrim is more powerful on the table top over Angron... so there is that.

It's a crapshoot. They had Lionel killing Angron in combat in an article when averages determine it's VERY unlikely to happen. 

22 minutes ago, INKS said:

Regardless of leaks or stats, GW themselves said that Fulgrim is more powerful on the table top over Angron... so there is that.

They didn’t really say that, they just said in a fulgrim 1v1 with Angron he went 3/3 and I think it’s mainly cause he can fight first always so has a high chance just killing Angron before he gets a chance, but I do hope they’re on the same combat caliber 

1 hour ago, ZeroWolf said:

This is the kind of talk I've heard. There's some saying that EC are really strong while others are the complete opposite with very few in the middle saying "these look fun to play with/against"

If fulgrim can go 1:1 with Angron and win 3 of 3 then he's not going to be a slouch. With 16" move too he's terrifyingly fast. 

 

However, a primarch a faction doesn't make. Looking forward to seeing the codex but really want the minis in hand. Soon...

18 minutes ago, 01RTB01 said:

If fulgrim can go 1:1 with Angron and win 3 of 3 then he's not going to be a slouch. With 16" move too he's terrifyingly fast. 

 

However, a primarch a faction doesn't make. Looking forward to seeing the codex but really want the minis in hand. Soon...

We all want it as soon as possible , hopefully gw aren’t mean this Sunday and make us wait another week , especially when this is only the fomo box , not even the main attraction.

 

i know they won’t do it , but would be cool if fulgrim came out along side the fomo box 

Well, curtesy of someone on TRP discord. Either the leak is fake or we are missing a key army rule because Fulgrim has a 15.2% chance to kill Angron in an activation. Angron sits at around 49% without BW charge bonus.

 

Even with FF, Angron charges Fulgrim. Fulgrim deals 7 wounds avg. Angron then deals 15 avg. 1cp throw up sustained and Fulgrim turns to dust.

Edited by Kharn13
1 hour ago, ZeroWolf said:

This is the kind of talk I've heard. There's some saying that EC are really strong while others are the complete opposite with very few in the middle saying "these look fun to play with/against"

 

I haven't heard anyone call it bad until the poster above. Everyone, everywhere else I've read has been really positive on the rumored statline.

 

I really don't see how anyone sees flat 16" movement and a sweep profile with 2 damage as anything other than great but hey, it takes all kinds to make the world turn. 

Edited by DemonGSides
5 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

 

I haven't heard anyone call it bad until the poster above. Everyone, everywhere else I've read has been really positive on the rumored statline.

 

I really don't see how anyone sees flat 16" movement and a sweep profile with 2 damage as anything other than great but hey, it takes all kinds to make the world turn. 

I think as a base it’s solid , but there are elements that feel off and a bit lazy, like if it was true, they bigged up “demonic poisons” and it turns out to be that 4+ d3 mortal thing , very lack luster, and also his whip being a 1 attack precision but only does 2 damage , that ain’t a whip it’s a tickling rope

Edited by Macidious

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