Macidious Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, Vardus said: Ok, so 22 Datasheets cards not including the army rule or Combat Patrol. Prince with Wings and Spawn to make 20. Oof this is actually bad…. LSM 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardus Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 minutes ago, Macidious said: Oof this is actually bad…. Oh... and Termies to make 21! LSM 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macidious Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Just now, Vardus said: Oh... and Termies to make 21! Yep…. Ok their rules better be BUSTED to counteract not being able to kill a guard army or tau army Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) Well something somewhere has to be wrong, because the book wouldn't have Shalaxi but not the Masque, or Daemonettes but not Seekers. Datasheet count suggests not all the Daemon units made it in so either none of them are in and there's more generic CSM vehicles than expected, or it's just the most generic ones (Herald, Daemonettes, Seekers, Fiends, Chariots) Edit - This in turn should lay to rest the rumours that Daemons are no longer a faction in their own right, because not being able to take the named Slaaneshi Daemons in an EC army means they need to live somewhere. Edited February 23 by Halandaar LSM 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaplessHeretic Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 7 minutes ago, Vardus said: Oh... and Termies to make 21! The slaanesh chariot should bring it to 22 no? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marspeople Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) What about the other Daemon units? The Masque and the Infernal Enrapturess? And Syll Esske? If the Deamon characters aren't in there, then there has to be a Daemon codex coming. Edited February 23 by marspeople Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardus Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 6 minutes ago, Halandaar said: Well something somewhere has to be wrong, because the book wouldn't have Shalaxi but not the Masque, or Daemonettes but not Seekers. Datasheet count suggests not all the Daemon units made it in so either none of them are in and there's more generic CSM vehicles than expected, or it's just the most generic ones (Herald, Daemonettes, Seekers, Fiends, Chariots) Edit - This in turn should lay to rest the rumours that Daemons are no longer a faction in their own right, because not being able to take the named Slaaneshi Daemons in an EC army means they need to live somewhere. Unless the Daemons stay as an Index for the rest of 10th and 11th brings a culling of Daemons from 40k, but who knows? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macidious Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Vardus said: Unless the Daemons stay as an Index for the rest of 10th and 11th brings a culling of Daemons from 40k, but who knows? I just checked the LVO preview video and they say “the slaaneshi demons are included in the book as well” Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardus Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On a happier note, the pre-order is on my Saturday off, so I will stand a chance of getting a box! No relying on my phones internet connection! skylerboodie 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpossumStrong Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 I'm hoping it's 1 box per customer, on the other hand I would like to get 2 boxes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardus Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Macidious said: I just checked the LVO preview video and they say “the slaaneshi demons are included in the book as well” I was meaning the Daemons we get in the Codex will be the only ones (including the similar daemons for the other mono gods) that survive in 11th, with the Daemon index being away to play Daemons in 10th and going away in 11th. <---- this is just speculation and not a belief! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macidious Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 minutes ago, Vardus said: I was meaning the Daemons we get in the Codex will be the only ones (including the similar daemons for the other mono gods) that survive in 11th, with the Daemon index being away to play Daemons in 10th and going away in 11th. <---- this is just speculation and not a belief! I think maybe there could I be a chance that they are included in the codex in a sense of they give us rules to summon them or include them in games , but they official rules will be in a demons codex in the future , but we will have to wait and see Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 YES! Finally. So so excited! Planning on grabbing two boxes. 22 minutes ago, Halandaar said: Well something somewhere has to be wrong, because the book wouldn't have Shalaxi but not the Masque, or Daemonettes but not Seekers. You'd think not, but this is GW we're talking about. Seemingly arbitrary decisions are their bread and butter so I honestly wouldn't be surprised. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Glad it’s payday Friday! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 A nice higher quality shot of the Lord Exultant found on the Champions of Slaanesh box, courtesy of the GW instagram: HolyPestilience, Fire Golem and LSM 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macidious Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 6 minutes ago, Marshal Loss said: A nice higher quality shot of the Lord Exultant found on the Champions of Slaanesh box, courtesy of the GW instagram: Hide contents He looks awesome But either way, next week community posts AND LET THE LEAKS FLOW, we can see the rules and start theory rolling and making lists , such exciting times Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 27 minutes ago, Macidious said: I think maybe there could I be a chance that they are included in the codex in a sense of they give us rules to summon them or include them in games , but they official rules will be in a demons codex in the future , but we will have to wait and see That sounds too reasonable. GW will obviously kill off daemons and send assassins out to anyone still owning any daemons outside of the officially sanctioned ones found in the cult legion codices. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macidious Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Nephaston said: That sounds too reasonable. GW will obviously kill off daemons and send assassins out to anyone still owning any daemons outside of the officially sanctioned ones found in the cult legion codices. It does sound right now that they’ve gone look at all your ec armies pre codex…. Well you better sell them haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSM Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) "This ostentatious champion comes with a choice of weapon options including phoenix power spear and rapture lash, as well as four different power packs and two head options." Exsqueeze me? Baking powder? Part of me assumes that has to be a mistake but - I really hope it isn't. // Also, apparently it's rapture lash and not rupture lash. // Cope: maybe the 22 datasheets cards don't include the daemons, as they already have datacards? Otherwise, currently (ie without Daemons): WE have 23, TS 28, and DG 32. If EC only have 22 datasheets including daemons then we'd have one of the smallest armies in the game. // Known datasheets: Fulgrim Lucius Shalaxi Helbane Lord Exultant Lord Kakophonist EC Sorcerer EC Daemon Prince EC Daemon Prince with Wings Keeper of Secrets Tormentors Infractors Daemonettes Flawless Blades EC Terminators Fiends of Slaanesh EC Chaos Spawn Noise Marines EC Rhino EC Land Raider EC Maulerfiend EC Heldrake Oh god, the leaks were true... unless it's not including the four bolded daemons. But even if that's so, then only five of: Cultists, Helbrute, Forgefiend, Defiler, Predator Annihilator, Predator Destructor, Terminator Lord, Terminator Sorcerer. Eight things that I'd have wanted (and expected) in the book, and potentially only one of them. And then if it is 22 including daemons, then no Masque, no Seekers, no Chariots, no Tranceweaver, etc, etc. I had assumed Seekers would be our answer to Bikers/Raptors - will we just have no fast attack? Edited February 23 by LSM skylerboodie 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Would be weird for them to have used the same power pack 3 times if there’s 4 options… I’d also rather there were more heads and less power pack options if it is true, but hey ho. skylerboodie and LSM 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macidious Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 10 minutes ago, Fire Golem said: Would be weird for them to have used the same power pack 3 times if there’s 4 options… I’d also rather there were more heads and less power pack options if it is true, but hey ho. I think what they’re referring to is the symbol on the power pack could be different options, I know that in the army photo there’s new symbols on the rhinos which looks like it may come from the Lord or the infractors Aarik 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSM Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Marshal Loss said: A nice higher quality shot of the Lord Exultant found on the Champions of Slaanesh box, courtesy of the GW instagram: From the video we can also get a better look at the piece's Tormentor/Infractor Champion with Phoenix Power Spear (fingers crossed it's actually in the kit) and folks with a variety of cooler shoulder pads, as well as Cultists. // 27 minutes ago, Fire Golem said: Would be weird for them to have used the same power pack 3 times if there’s 4 options… I’d also rather there were more heads and less power pack options if it is true, but hey ho. The only way it would make sense (to me) is if there were options for Icon(s), Combat Drug Dispenser, and Doom Siren. (But I doubt it.) Edited February 23 by LSM Marshal Loss 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Vardus said: I was meaning the Daemons we get in the Codex will be the only ones (including the similar daemons for the other mono gods) that survive in 11th, with the Daemon index being away to play Daemons in 10th and going away in 11th. <---- this is just speculation and not a belief! Seems likely, it's not beyond GW to squat stuff and they're very clearly against cross-range stuff, which daemons are the poster boy for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Praetorian of Inwit Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) At long last it is here. That seems like a very small roster though. I can't understand the point in taking away Predators for example. It does make sense to not include every single Daemon unit though. Especially all the characters. The Infernal Rapturess or Contorted Epitome are great in AoS but really don't fit in 40k. I would not be surprised if long term GW has a plan that current Daemon models go AoS only and they'll do 40k Daemons as separate things. They really seem to have issues with models being available for more than one system (which is is stupid but GW loves being stupid a lot). Edited February 23 by The Praetorian of Inwit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waaagh? Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Rest of the Daemons might just go Index/AOS exclusive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/79/#findComment-6096529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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