EC Rumours

[01RTB01]

7 minutes ago, Ming the Merciless said:

 

Looks like the 40k EC colours will be pink (and black).

Where's the pic from please?

[ZeroWolf]

I really like this, great job to the sculptors here. Also happy to see my hunch that it might be Fulgrim was right.

 

Also great that the cheaper option is better (in my opinion). Breaking a £95 plastic model hurts but not as bad as breaking a £182 resin model would hurt a hell of a lot more.

 

I'll admit, the urge is there to do EC but then I'll have to get all the Demon Primarchs...and I definitely don’t have room for that!

[The Imperial Fist]

11 minutes ago, Borbarad said:

So Fulgrim still wields the fireblade? Interesting how it looks still normal and unaffected by the warp. 

 

7 minutes ago, Redcomet said:

He probably chose not to alter it. I assume he has a lot of control over his form

I thought Ferrus destroyed Fireblade though in their final duel. 

[ThaneOfTas]

Unfortunately it doesn't look like he's carrying a Crone Sword, which is a majorly wasted opportunity. I am pleasantly surprised by the pose though.

[Preliminary Bombardment]

The exposed flesh is very Hellraiser

 

we have such sights to show you…

[Timberley]

It looks decent enough, but I prefer the 'Fulgrim Transfigured' model from the HH range.  Transfigured looks like a serene master bladesman, taking a moment whilst he contemplates his next strike, whereas the 40K one looks like a jump scare going 'ooga booga' at you.

[DeadFingers]

13 minutes ago, 01RTB01 said:

Where's the pic from please?

Facebook

 

Better resolution

[Nephaston]

43 minutes ago, lansalt said:

Also, why a deamon prince needs a helmet?

 

With someone like fulgrim he'd probably wear a helmet to keep his face from being seen by the "undeserving"

 

I also presume his face will look smoother withoutall the wrinkles the eavy metal team painted on

[ThePenitentOne]

24 minutes ago, Timberley said:

It looks decent enough, but I prefer the 'Fulgrim Transfigured' model from the HH range.  Transfigured looks like a serene master bladesman, taking a moment whilst he contemplates his next strike, whereas the 40K one looks like a jump scare going 'ooga booga' at you.

 

Perhaps, but the 40k also looks like I will be able to easily glue it together because plastic, and I won't have to take out a loan to buy it.

 

Do I like the FW sculpt better? Maybe- those giant wings! The Irony is those giant wings would be so much less a nightmare on a plastic model- the FW sculpt is the one that SHOULD have been plastic.

 

But at $345 CAD for resin, no matter how much better the FW sculpt is, the 40k version is the better product.

[TheMawr]

31 minutes ago, ThaneOfTas said:

Unfortunately it doesn't look like he's carrying a Crone Sword, which is a majorly wasted opportunity. I am pleasantly surprised by the pose though.

 

That black one doesnt look like the laerian blade though ? I could see that one being a cronesword, though Ofcourse slaaneshi designs and eldar ones have a lot of overlap... But the only thing cronesword have in common is a big gem with curly decoration, wich the black blade has. ( or am i missing another token fulgrim sword wich it is ? ) 

[EmprahsStrongestGuardsman]

Underwhelming.

[Ming the Merciless]

1 hour ago, 01RTB01 said:

Where's the pic from please?

 

Official 40k Facebook page

[LSM]

I really like that they went with a more "sea serpenty" look for the body - I've been mentioning for awhile that Slaanesh was viewed as such in some oldhammer lore, and Steeds of Slaanesh have (and have had) more aquatic fins, so that jumped out at me. (Yay, a change from Transfigured I proposed!)

 

I was also in favour of there being some non-pretty face options... I like the helmet, and like the expressions. Would have liked to still have had at least one "pretty" take for those who enjoy it, and would have gone for one with sick shades myself. I was hoping more for "age'd rocker" than "movie possessed" though... mid-feelings.

 

I like a lot of the basic details, but not overtly more so than as they're present on Transfigured. I do wish the Legion Icon was more ragged, violent, fiery, or what have you. I mentioned this with the shoulder pads too, but my conception was that in 30k it was a pristine wing, and by 40k it should be wild and chaotic.

 

The peeled skin... I'm not sure why, but it passes a line for me, and I don't like it. (And I paint my Khornate Iron Warriors with flayed skin; as well as not having any problem with any of the rest of the often quite gruesome Slaanesh models, like the Infernal Enrapturous.) For some reason though, I just don't like looking at this.

 

I would have liked some more "sonic cult" bits. I assume that if the line overall was going in that direction they would have made an effort to include them on Fulgrim, so my expectations are adjusted somewhat to the EC being "30k-ified". I'll make peace now with not getting them as the classic "Noise Marine army" - looks like I get to keep heavily converting my force, I suppose...

 

I also wonder if there's an "armour off" version, like you can do with Magnus and Angron. It doesn't appear so - he seems to have black piping under his armour, neck-to-tail. It would have been nice though, if it were an option.

 

It's a little strange that the art is clearly in a purple and gold colour scheme, but the model is just gold. I wonder if there was an internal battle about what the scheme should be?

 

 

( @Ming the Merciless showed that other image and sees pink and black, but I just see purple in it too.)

 

Edited 10 hours ago by LSM

[crimsondave]

I’m not a EC fan so have I no dog in the hunt.  I’m just honestly curious as to what those of you who don’t like it wanted out of a Fulgrim model.  I guess I understand the face criticism even if I don’t agree.

 

Edit:  Of course, as I typed this someone posted a detailed answer to what I hadn’t asked yet.

Edited 10 hours ago by crimsondave

[Macidious]

I am so happy with the new fulgrim he feels like it’s been 10k years of corruption and his interpretation of beauty is skewed too , and from the artwork and colour scheme looks like there’s multiple options still , it’s everything I dreamed of and if the rest of the range is as good we are winning 

[Wispy]

2 hours ago, lansalt said:

The model is technically great and for sure more practical for games than the shelf queen of his 30k resin version, but I don't like that it only comes with ugly head options. He should be beatiful in an daemonic way, like his 30k mini (or AoS Sigvald).

We're told again and again about the disturbing but alluring beauty and temptations of Slaanesh daemons, only to get ugly daemonettes (RIP Diazmonettes) and now a 40k Fulgrim with generic ugly evil dude faces. Also, why a deamon prince needs a helmet?

 

 

 

I think it's utterly appropriate that his alluring beauty has become twisted by centuries of sinking into depravity. The other side of the coin of Slaanesh has flipped for him, the manic excess and twisted exploration of pain and depravity. 

 

Alternatively, he's still alluringly beautiful, your pedestrian mortal tastes just can't appreciate his serpentine beauty.

Edited 10 hours ago by Wispy
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[Marshal Reinhard]

His faces are the faces of a traitor. I approve.

[chapter master 454]

Looks good. The helmet option is a nice touch too alongside the head options (almost feels like a joke with him being slannesh's primarch) and the pose isn't overbearing for use on the table it seems.

Question is now, will Pert get a chance to onto the tabletop or will models only be for god aligned primarchs?

[Nephaston]

19 minutes ago, LSM said:

It's a little strange that the art is clearly in a purple and gold colour scheme, but the model is just gold. I wonder if there was an internal battle about what the scheme should be?

Article does mention that his panoply shifts, and his form is rarely fixed. Probably a handwave/permission to go hogwild with colour schemes.

[LSM]

Two things that I do think Transfigured just flatly does better, regardless of taste: the hair, and his back.

 

Transfigured's back has these weird orifices that are reminiscent of power pack exhausts (as well as corset bindings in the skin). Which is fitting, as Fulgrim's pre-Heresy armour doesn't have a power pack.

 

Nu-grim has his wings/drapery coming out of what looks pretty power-armour-y. (Actually, his shoulder pads too are far more pauldron-y than he's ever had before.)

 

//

 

I can see what Valrak meant when he said it'd cause debates!

 

Edited 9 hours ago by LSM

[Orion]

I don't care for primarchs, but I still think there is a bit of a missed opportunity in the face options. Like, there are options, but they all seem very similar cartoony vampire aesthetic. (And the helmet is very meh.)

 

Love the exposed flesh in the snake part though.

[EmprahsStrongestGuardsman]

I am just more interested in the marine models. I prefer creating my own characters so I was never interested in Fulgrim in any of his forms. Bit disappointed they haven't shown much of the EC/NMs yet.

 

This is just a bit too generic for me. Would be an okay slaanesh daemon prince with a headswap... but it's probably too big for even that so I'll never buy this.

 

Honestly, the 30k daemon primarch version is better, even with the oversized wings.

[TheMawr]

4 minutes ago, Orion said:

I don't care for primarchs, but I still think there is a bit of a missed opportunity in the face options. Like, there are options, but they all seem very similar cartoony vampire aesthetic. (And the helmet is very meh.)

 

Love the exposed flesh in the snake part though.

 

That i agree with, the 4 bare options are rather close, though Ofcourse its unique to have that many options to begin with, i feel it would be an addition if one had the face jewelry the art has and another a maybe more warped visage ( or even better, half the face more warped and other half closer to transfigured. )

 

Another thing i just notice, the random rhino and landraider in the bg of the fb image, nothing of it, but its just so incredibly random  

[RedFox]

I really like him, maybe not as much as the 30k one but very very close...and it's plastic and cheaper so I'd probably go with this version.

 

My only grip is the snake body, the scales are weird and the pose could be more interesting than just curled up...

 

I also really like the art with purple armour and blue skin (is that just light reflection?)

 

Also, where are my legionaries Valrak !?

[lansalt]

16 minutes ago, Wispy said:

I think it's utterly appropriate that his alluring beauty has become twisted by centuries of sinking into depravity. The other side of the coin of Slaanesh has flipped for him, the manic excess and twisted exploration of pain and depravity. 

We're talking about a shape shifting Slaanesh daemon prince here, as the WHC article recognizes. Having snarling vampire-like face options for him is okay, but the absence of his iconic beautiful smug face is not, IMO. Makes me think it has been done on purpose to keep the 30k version relevant.

Or maybe not. GW designers also though giving Angron a red ork face was a good idea.