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I wouldn't be surprised if EC didn't get their own dedicated Cultist unit just because the current sculpts already pass very easily as Slaanesh-aligned.

 

The 6th edition sculpts had a much more neutral 'rabble' look to them which worked in any God-aligned force, whereas the current ones... not so much.

 

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4 minutes ago, Nephaston said:

I love that he has high heels. Really setting trends with them ceramite stilettos.

They may have changed this for his new model, but if they haven't it's even better because those should be hooves. Slaanesh just gifted him with organic stilettos.

6 minutes ago, DeadFingers said:

They may have changed this for his new model, but if they haven't it's even better because those should be hooves. Slaanesh just gifted him with organic stilettos.

 

What about heeled hooves

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Or rip a page from bayonetta and instead of a heel, have GUN

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6 minutes ago, Lord Marshal said:

I wouldn't be surprised if EC didn't get their own dedicated Cultist unit just because the current sculpts already pass very easily as Slaanesh-aligned.

 

The 6th edition sculpts had a much more neutral 'rabble' look to them which worked in any God-aligned force, whereas the current ones... not so much.

 

 

Not entirely agreeing there.. but a little bit.
Looking at the models and design choices ( not the studio paintjob )

Current cultists work visually good with Slaanesh and Tzeentch imho, especially when also including the accursed cultists.

On the other hand the 6th edition ones fit Khorne and Nurgle better, whereas I dont feel the current cultists fit those two at all. ( and seemingly.. so does GW.)

 

however, I feel the traitor guard kind of add to the previous cultist vibe, and as such feel right for Khorne and nurgle.

When taking that to EC, TS, WE and DG* I would spread it as such ( in this wishlist only including whats available) human followers representation :

Emperors Children & Thousand Sons : Cultists + Accursed cultists

World eaters : Traitor guard + Jakhals
Deathguard : Traitor guard + Poxwalkers

 

Interestingly when including leader options for those I would switch it around a bit, to create some interesting twists
Emperors children & World eaters : Enforcer&Ogryn ( so those can lead the cultists & accursed cultists in Emperors children, and Jakhals & Traitorguard in WE )
Thousand Sons & Deathguard : Dark commune
( so those can lead the poxwalkers and traitorguard in Deathguard, and Cultists&Accursed cultists in TS )
But bespoke human leaders work better, though following the principle of those slightly; Physical dominant for EC and WE, Spiritual dominant for TS and DG.

 

 

* Do we actually know if there will be a namechange associated with the combined codex ? I assume not and it will be a similar case to codex : custodes never having changed to Talons of the Emperor, or Chaos Spacemarines not having become Traitor legions.

 

 

 

7 hours ago, LSM said:

(Unless he is still a southpaw, and the pose is "open" to us with left leg and arm forward, and right leg and arm back. Instead of the left leg forward and right arm forward, back to us.)

 

Hopefully I can play with it more a little later.

 

I'd say it seems a bit frolicky even. And If I judge it correctly his sword is absolutely mahoosive.

 

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4 hours ago, Lord Marshal said:

I wouldn't be surprised if EC didn't get their own dedicated Cultist unit just because the current sculpts already pass very easily as Slaanesh-aligned.

 

The 6th edition sculpts had a much more neutral 'rabble' look to them which worked in any God-aligned force, whereas the current ones... not so much.

 

I think that they’ll get it eventually, GW seems to be trying to moving away from shared units in their games.

38 minutes ago, -DonCorleone- said:

I think that they’ll get it eventually, GW seems to be trying to moving away from shared units in their games.

 

Are they though ? the only evidence there is for it is GW not sharing units with FW, wich is a very different situation as they are different studios with different designers, management and plans.

But we have had little evidence for it between AoS and 40k even, with the last new kit that was being shared between AoS and 40k being the Daemon prince, but this was also the last kit released where this was even an option.

 

Meanwhile between different factions in 40k they still very clearly have the same policy they had before, last year we saw interfaction sharing to carry on. ( Genestealers, brood brothers still being an upgrade sprue of cadians, Imperial agents codex having duplicate datasheets/miniatures use from other armies. )

And next year we will see a confirmed addition ( Ynnari-drukhari units.)

This isnt even talking about the sharing between Setting subgames ( however unpredictable that sharing is.) with even Nemesis claw gotten 40k rules recently.

 

GW is fickle between what they share between CSM and the cult codices. I also pointed out the reluctance earlier in the thread and that I expect few, if any, CSM characters to come in the codex. But thats not because I think there is a general no-sharing policy at play here.

 

The reason for WE's lack of shared CSM characters and units, and the removal of possessed from Deathguard seems to me to have another reason, whatever that reason may be. But I do expect that reason to apply to EC as well.

Sometimes its also possible that things that seem to be the same, arent really the same and different motivations apply, possibilities are ;

 

WE didnt get cultists because they already had Jakhals
WE didnt get the chaos lord because it was about to be a replaced kit, but just not ready yet or there where plans already for a WE lord, either way GW probably wants WE to have axes, the then existing chaos lord only had a hammer, CSM and DG came out at a time their equipment policy wasnt that strict yet, but by the time of the WE codex it was tightened and resin/non existant equipment purges had started heavily.
WE didnt get Terminator lord because its an old kit they might need replacing, and its replacement is different on loadouts etc. ( the issue with DG possessed and cultists and TS cultists.)

 

typing this out I now actually do think its possible that EC likewise get access to generic Terminators if they dont get their own, as it fits the above behavior.

 

Anyway all of that is guessing and spitballing.

9 hours ago, Nephaston said:

I love that he has high heels. Really setting trends with them ceramite stilettos.

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure if he does or doesn't? - it may be the heel of his boot is raised and its something next to the leg - there's some base decoration there that it could be.

 

Big chonking heels would be awesome though!

1 hour ago, Cyrox said:

I'm not sure if he does or doesn't? - it may be the heel of his boot is raised and its something next to the leg - there's some base decoration there that it could be.

 

Big chonking heels would be awesome though!

Both feet have them, they're just not visible on the silhouette at the same time.

 

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17 hours ago, DeadFingers said:

I'm afraid your info is rather outdated. The initial rumours of a cultist type unit and terminators were superseded by the rumours at the very start of this thread, which instead talk about a 10 model unit of slaaneshi marines, with Noise Marines as a more elite choice in a unit of 6, and then some sort of top tier elite unit of 3 duellist types. Plus two allegedly different generic HQ choices, one being a "Cacophonist" that appears to be a direct update of the old EC Lord with the doom siren, and another HQ armed with a spear.

Oooooh, but i want my dosis of Slaanesh losers! Alexa, play "sad"

20 hours ago, Macidious said:

also the reason I feel he may not have faces on his shins is just on this angle his right shin has some light shining off it with a smooth edge 

 

There's a "lumpiness" to his calves that makes me confident he's got souls trapped down there. There is smoothness too, but I'm thinking that's caused by vertical (studded) trim. (It's definitely different from the current model, where the souls are just on the front.)

 

Also, in the profile shot, at the beginning the forward leg has quite a huge lip (into the 'L' in "REVEALS"), so I think the vertical bit is down the shin.

 

Just focussing on the legs (as he does his little turn on the catwalk):

 

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Though my understanding could be completely off. I think the model is turning to the left (as all the other four are), but honestly by brain is flipping back and forth in how I see it.

 

But I think he is holding his sabre in his left hand, his lash in his right, and the below pic is actually looking at him from behind:

 

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But then I look at it for a minute and my brain flips it all around.

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32 minutes ago, LSM said:

 

There's a "lumpiness" to his calves that makes me confident he's got souls trapped down there. There is smoothness too, but I'm thinking that's caused by vertical (studded) trim. (It's definitely different from the current model, where the souls are just on the front.)

 

Also, in the profile shot, at the beginning the forward leg has quite a huge lip (into the 'L' in "REVEALS"), so I think the vertical bit is down the shin.

 

Just focussing on the legs (as he does his little turn on the catwalk):

 

Lucius3.thumb.jpg.5be0672eef8f085568bfddc1ae8536a5.jpg

 

 

Though my understanding could be completely off. I think the model is turning to the left (as all the other four are), but honestly by brain is flipping back and forth in how I see it.

 

But I think he is holding his sabre in his left hand, his lash in his right, and the below pic is actually looking at him from behind:

 

IMG_0957.jpeg

 

But then I look at it for a minute and my brain flips it all around.

I know what you mean , loads of people are flipping it , but from the video where he’s slightly turning I can tell he has his sword in his right hand and the whip wrapped in his left.

 

i also asked valrak on his stream last night about Lucius’s legs and he just said “if Valrak from an alternate timeline were to be asked about that, he’d say to go watch Lucius in his hammer and bolter episode” so I’m confident that he is gonna be very accurate minus the improvements on the whip , sword and power pack 

No more Ecstatic Epistle, it seems. That... might be good, actually. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but if they're really not doing it anymore (or it isn't on hold until after LVO or something like that) it might be because the reveals really are close at hand and there's no more need to keep teasing any further.

24 minutes ago, DeadFingers said:

No more Ecstatic Epistle, it seems. That... might be good, actually. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but if they're really not doing it anymore (or it isn't on hold until after LVO or something like that) it might be because the reveals really are close at hand and there's no more need to keep teasing any further.

I think it’s cause LVO is literally next Friday so no point showing another 3d render with something we may see in a weeks time 

Just now, Macidious said:

I think it’s cause LVO is literally next Friday so no point showing another 3d render with something we may see in a weeks time 

But that's exactly my point, I was keeping my expectations low, thinking the reveal could just be Lucius. But if they're not doing teasers anymore, there's at least some substance behind thinking they'll show us more.

13 minutes ago, DeadFingers said:

But that's exactly my point, I was keeping my expectations low, thinking the reveal could just be Lucius. But if they're not doing teasers anymore, there's at least some substance behind thinking they'll show us more.

I am hoping that too , just cause there’s not much left to Yanno tease and I’m sick and tired of 1 line of teasing at the end of community posts , grey renders and silhouettes, it’s time for the real deal 

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