EC Rumours

[Hathor42]

Super blurry sorry but in the cover art for the army box there's another marine with a spear or glaive that's not the Lord Exultant and doesn't really look like a flawless blade on the bottom left of the mark of Slaanesh. Maybe the Infractors might have a sprinkling of CC special weapons?

[Macidious]

Well a day has gone by, congratulations to all, we’ve won the battle… but the war isn’t over, with the power of the leaks and the warp we must get are hands on datasheets lol 

 

I mean I feel like it’s now tradition now for every range refresh to have a leak, let’s see what happens in the next 2 months

[DeadFingers]

8 hours ago, Marshal Loss said:

The EC community is fortunate to have you LSM. The above largely tracks for me. I don't think we'll see a sonic weapon on the Infractors/Tormentors, but a screamer pistol option would be a nice touch.

 

A fellow hedonist pointed this out on reddit, but there's a really neat horned Noise Marine helmet in the background of the army shot (apologies if this has already been pointed out here). I keep finding more things I like the more I stare at the pictures!

 

Yeah there's a buncha heads and other bits all over that pic and in others that they haven't really shown off properly. This one and a handful of others were only visible for a few seconds while they talked about the army box and its contents, and the horned head in particular was out of frame for most of it as the picture slowly zoomed out and doesn't even get to be fully visible. Can even get a blurry look at yet another head if you zoom in on the army box picture on the article, since the sixth member of the squad doesn't get to be seen in the video.

 

Also, the faces on the sonic weapons for hornhead and the guy on the very left here are different too, so either there are more sonic weapons in the box than just exactly what you need to build the unit as shown on WarCom (3 blasters, 2 blastmasters, 1 pistol), or the faces are modular to some degree, which would be cool as well. Probably the former though.

 

 

 

I really don't know why they're so reluctant to show extra options and such at preview shows, but it's been happening for a good long while and it's always just as puzzling. Even more so when in this very preview they showed off three different builds for the Lord Exultant, but didn't even mention the dual wielding builds for the Flawless Blades, which were only seen for all of about four seconds total despite looking amazing.

 

Edited January 18 by DeadFingers

[Macidious]

12 minutes ago, DeadFingers said:

Yeah there's a buncha heads and other bits all over that pic and in others that they haven't really shown off properly. This one and a handful of others were only visible for a few seconds while they talked about the army box and its contents, and the horned head in particular was out of frame for most of it as the picture slowly zoomed out and doesn't even get to be fully visible. Can even get a blurry look at yet another head if you zoom in on the army box picture on the article, since the sixth member of the squad doesn't get to be seen in the video.

 

Also, the faces on the sonic weapons for hornhead and the guy on the very left here are different too, so either there are more sonic weapons in the box than just exactly what you need to build the unit, or the faces are modular to some degree, which would be cool as well. Probably the former though.

 

 

 

I really don't know why they're so reluctant to show extra options and such at preview shows, but it's been happening for a good long while and it's always just as puzzling. Even more so when in this very preview they showed off three different builds for the Lord Exultant, but didn't even mention the dual wielding builds for the Flawless Blades, which were only seen for all of about four seconds total despite looking amazing.

 

I’m definitely doing all non helmets for noise marines, just feels right.

[Orange Knight]

I've been looking over the range. I think it's such a massive win that the standard infantry has two builds and looks so distinctive. 

 

The sabre and bolt pistol look is just fantastic. It calls back to the kind of weapons they have access to in the Horus Heresy range.

 

The regular bolter build isn't as exciting in terms of wargear but they have the Infiltrate rule, if I'm not mistaken - and that makes them instantly usable. 

 

We just need to start seeing some rules now. This range is very exciting and a big win.

I recall there used to be some pushback at the idea of dividing the Chaos Marines into what we have now, but I think that the distinct armies can be really great once they've been sufficiently expanded. I think the Death Guard and EC ranges at this moment probably feel the most complete (not counting the generic Chaos marines). Hopefully GW can throw an extra themed unit at the World Eaters and Thousand Sons.

 

I'm also a big fan of modifying the base stats. Death Guard gain extra toughness and less movement. We know that many of these units have extra movement over standard Marines - I hope they really lean into the idea of fast, fighty and elegant, but perhaps at the cost of some durability? But maybe not as they're all high on drugs lol.

[DeadFingers]

Did a thing, think I got the base sizes right. Tried 50mm on the Flawless Blades and nah, that'd make them massive, so 40mm it is. Lined them up by their lowest foot instead of the base.

 

 

Ironically enough, looking at them all side by side, I think the Legion of Excess might be one of the more painter-friendly of them all. At least without taking into account the fact that you can paint Death Guard all grimy and they'll look on point. The boys in pink have considerably less trim and assorted gubbins, instead opting for a cleaner look with sleeker and finer details on the armour.

 

Just compare the Havoc and Noise Marine leaders. The studs are probably the most tedious part of the process, but besides that, you can really get away with a simple and clean paintjob quite easily and without much hassle. Anything more complex is entirely optional.

 

Edited January 18 by DeadFingers

[Macidious]

16 minutes ago, DeadFingers said:

Did a thing, think I got the base sizes right. Tried 50mm on the Flawless Blades and nah, that'd make them massive, so 40mm it is. Lined them up by their lowest foot instead of the base.

 

 

Ironically enough, looking at them all side by side, I think the Legion of Excess might be one of the more painter-friendly of them all. At least without taking into account the fact that you can paint Death Guard all grimy and they'll look on point. The boys in pink have considerably less trim and assorted gubbins, instead opting for a cleaner look with sleeker and finer details on the armour.

 

Just compare the Havoc and Noise Marine leaders. The studs are probably the most tedious part of the process, but besides that, you can really get away with a simple and clean paintjob quite easily and without much hassle. Anything more complex is entirely optional.

 

It’s crazy cause the flawless blades were the unit I was the most worried and least excited for but I think model wise are my favourites of the bunch, love how slender they are and that they’re descendant of palatine blades and aren’t just “sixbound” , the noise marines are so nice too glad I waited 

[Hathor42]

yay good trim can go to hell lol.

[Macidious]

Has anyone been able to get an accurate base scale of fulgrim yet with the new photos?? , is the debate for 130mm and 100mm still not decided yet? 

[DeadFingers]

I'm fairly convinced he's on a 130mm now after doing the science a few pages back. Someone on the Emperor's Children subreddit also did this:

 

 

Also, completely unrelated, but since I already put together the comparison between the various cult units in my previous post, I decided to put together a quick Introductory Guide to the Cult Legions™ for any and all newcomers. You're welcome.

 

 

Edited January 18 by DeadFingers

[Macidious]

44 minutes ago, DeadFingers said:

I'm fairly convinced he's on a 130mm now after doing the science a few pages back. Someone on the Emperor's Children subreddit also did this:

 

 

Also, completely unrelated, but since I already put together the comparison between the various cult units in my previous post, I decided to put together a quick Introductory Guide to the Cult Legions™ for any and all newcomers. You're welcome.

 

 

Id love him to be on 130mm , don’t suppose you’d be able to do an image of all the primarchs if he is on 130mm??

[DeadFingers]

8 minutes ago, Macidious said:

Id love him to be on 130mm , don’t suppose you’d be able to do an image of all the primarchs if he is on 130mm??

I did that a couple weeks ago in this very thread, I think you even reacted to it. Here it is again though.

 

[Macidious]

3 minutes ago, DeadFingers said:

I did that a couple weeks ago in this very thread, I think you even reacted to it. Here it is again though.

 

My brain is still in spiral mode from all the reveals , apologies 

[Gree]

The conehead look doesn't work well for the Flawless Blades. I get what they were going for, a corrupted parody of Eldar helmets, but it just looks goofy.

 

Overall, the range looks good. I would have liked to see Phoenix Terminators, but I already expected GW to not include them for this release. Like with WE, GW seems to be moving away from porting over 30k units.

[Indy Techwisp]

18 minutes ago, Gree said:

The conehead look doesn't work well for the Flawless Blades. I get what they were going for, a corrupted parody of Eldar helmets, but it just looks goofy.

 

Overall, the range looks good. I would have liked to see Phoenix Terminators, but I already expected GW to not include them for this release. Like with WE, GW seems to be moving away from porting over 30k units.

 

A number of images show that there's non-cone heads for the Flawless Blades.

[Mogger351]

2 hours ago, DeadFingers said:

I did that a couple weeks ago in this very thread, I think you even reacted to it. Here it is again though.

 

I can't tell if I think Fulgrim is too big, or if the others are simply out of scale somehow.

[Ammonius]

1 hour ago, Gree said:

The conehead look doesn't work well for the Flawless Blades. I get what they were going for, a corrupted parody of Eldar helmets, but it just looks goofy.

 

Overall, the range looks good. I would have liked to see Phoenix Terminators, but I already expected GW to not include them for this release. Like with WE, GW seems to be moving away from porting over 30k units.

The cone heads will be excellent on chaos spawn, if those are still a thing.

[Indy Techwisp]

3 minutes ago, Ammonius said:

The cone heads will be excellent on chaos spawn, if those are still a thing.

 

Chaos Spawn were explicitly mentioned as being in the Codex during the stream.

[Macidious]

1 hour ago, Indy Techwisp said:

 

A number of images show that there's non-cone heads for the Flawless Blades.

Yeah the alternate heads are really nice , I like the cone head with horns but not just the egg head. 
 

but I did some research about cranium elongation and its context and found out that historically people used to elongate their heads as a representation of nobility , to show intelligence, and the mayans used to do it because their ancestors supposedly were told by the gods to do it to look more handsome and bear burdens more , and was to show a higher status.

 

so it maybe in context of that , to show off their status as master duelists and above the normal marine 

These are the alternate heads, and they are 3/3 amazing 

[Elazar The Glorified]

Horses for courses and all that but I actually like the unsettling coneheads on these - especially the one with the previous (conehead) Keeper vibes!

 

Edited January 19 by Elazar The Glorified

[Macidious]

2 minutes ago, Elazar The Glorified said:

Horses for courses and all that but I actually like the unsettling coneheads on these - especially the one with the previous (conehead) Keeper vibes!

 

definitely gonna be using the cone head on the Lord 

[Marshal Loss]

The lack of a bondage squidhead option is the only thing I dislike about the otherwise brilliant Keeper of Secrets model.

 

I think the coneheads look great, but they'll definitely benefit from a non-'eavy metal paint job. The alternate heads are probably my favourite though.

[Hathor42]

20 minutes ago, Macidious said:

Yeah the alternate heads are really nice , I like the cone head with horns but not just the egg head. 
 

but I did some research about cranium elongation and its context and found out that historically people used to elongate their heads as a representation of nobility , to show intelligence, and the mayans used to do it because their ancestors supposedly were told by the gods to do it to look more handsome and bear burdens more , and was to show a higher status.

 

so it maybe in context of that , to show off their status as master duelists and above the normal marine 

These are the alternate heads, and they are 3/3 amazing 

I want multiples of that helmet. Sad there's probably only one in the box. 

[01RTB01]

5 hours ago, Gree said:

The conehead look doesn't work well for the Flawless Blades. I get what they were going for, a corrupted parody of Eldar helmets, but it just looks goofy.

 

Overall, the range looks good. I would have liked to see Phoenix Terminators, but I already expected GW to not include them for this release. Like with WE, GW seems to be moving away from porting over 30k units.

In fairness, after he transcended, they were superfluous and largely ceased to be a thing.

[GreaterChickenofTzeentch]

I imagine that people who want to swap out heads on the Faultless Blades could use Painbringer heads from AoS with a minimum of fuss.