EC Rumours

[Marshal Loss]

There is still an army box for Age of Sigmar (Gitmob) that was previewed at the World Championships back in November to come before they've ticked off everything from that preview. 8/15/22 Feb as potential preorder dates seems far more likely.

[Macidious]

11 minutes ago, Marshal Loss said:

There is still an army box for Age of Sigmar (Gitmob) that was previewed at the World Championships back in November to come before they've ticked off everything from that preview. 8/15/22 Feb as potential preorder dates seems far more likely.

I mean in the timeline I was thinking yeah the 8th of feb pre order for the 22nd release , gw seem to be in the mood to pump releases like no tomorrow this year with krieg and aeldari overlapping so hopefully they keep it up , and then maybe end of march ec singles models release for world Easter in April , death guard in May and thousand sons in June 

[DemonGSides]

18 minutes ago, Macidious said:

I mean in the timeline I was thinking yeah the 8th of feb pre order for the 22nd release , gw seem to be in the mood to pump releases like no tomorrow this year with krieg and aeldari overlapping so hopefully they keep it up , and then maybe end of march ec singles models release for world Easter in April , death guard in May and thousand sons in June 

 

I'm hesitant to expect EVEN MORE 40kreleases for this end of winter time strictly due to the fact that not even all the IG stuff has been up for order yet.

They also said Knights are prior to any of the Chaos stuff, so that seems like another release to push EC stuff back.

If we see EC stuff up for preorder before end of February I would be very surprised.

[Marshal Loss]

5 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

They also said Knights are prior to any of the Chaos stuff, so that seems like another release to push EC stuff back.

 

They 180'd on that at the preview, Knights have been heavily knocked back (presumably by the majesty of the Third Legion):

 

[Indy Techwisp]

2 minutes ago, Marshal Loss said:

 

They 180'd on that at the preview, Knights have been heavily knocked back (presumably by the majesty of the Third Legion):

 

 

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Knights and Chaos Knights may have remerged into one "Knight Households" codex...

[Macidious]

14 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

 

I'm hesitant to expect EVEN MORE 40kreleases for this end of winter time strictly due to the fact that not even all the IG stuff has been up for order yet.

They also said Knights are prior to any of the Chaos stuff, so that seems like another release to push EC stuff back.

If we see EC stuff up for preorder before end of February I would be very surprised.

I also feel they’re trying to push 40K stuff this side of summer time cause summer is gonna be a heresy new edition so that’ll be getting the most attention 

[Macidious]

I’m also on the highest tier of copium because I have no models to build and I can’t paint cause I want to paint them box art style but can’t find proper recipes for the army cause it isn’t out yet , so I’m just in purgatory lol 

[Dr_Ruminahui]

That would make a certain sense, given they are each kind of mini-codexes at the moment.  Still, a bit annoying to have to buy all that imperial stuff (and vice versa for non chaos knighters), especially if it causes the price to rise.  Its also in line with how they bundled the Imperial and Chaos knight datasheets and released them as one package.

[Indy Techwisp]

Just now, Dr_Ruminahui said:

That would make a certain sense, given they are each kind of mini-codexes at the moment.  Still, a bit annoying to have to buy all that imperial stuff (and vice versa for non chaos knighters), especially if it causes the price to rise.  Its also in line with how they bundled the Imperial and Chaos knight datasheets and released them as one package.

 

It essentially makes Knights work like Orruk Warclans in AoS (2 seperate armies sharing one book)

[Macidious]

17 hours ago, TheArtilleryman said:

The pink and black are ok but maybe the cloak and shield need to be darker? He seems a bit too “nice” at the moment.

yeah I’ll figure something out 

 

Edited Friday at 07:51 AM by Macidious

[Marshal Loss]

Appreciate you're excited for the new release as we all are, but could we save the model recolour posts for actual EC models coming in this release rather than Age of Sigmar models that have been out for ~4 years?

 

Anyway, circling back to an earlier post:

 

On 1/21/2025 at 9:55 AM, Elazar The Glorified said:

What do we reckon the 6 Detachment themes are likely to be, my guess is something like:

 

- Choir of Noise Marines where we see the return of some classic enhancements and stratagem names like Remnant of the Maraviglia and Endless Cacophony.

- The Maru Skara because how could they not, plays with Strategic Reserves with bonuses for the Hidden Blade element of the army when they arrive.

- A Daemonkin-esque detachment with boons for Daemon and Astartes units that are near eachother to help us celebrate the inclusion of our Daemonic allies. Honour the Prince and Loathsome Grace to return in name if not in rules here.

- The Faultless Blades / Cohoes Nasicae to represent Lucius' warband with boons for Flawless Blades (and maybe Terminators too). Distortion and Incessant Disdain in here.

- The aforementioned Combat Stimms Detachment  would imagine this would be a good home for Death Ecstacy and Stimulated by Pain in here. Maybe the option to include Fabius seeing as the Death Guard have stolen all the Apothecaries seemingly lol

- Stumped on a 6th, maybe something like the Phoenix Conclave or some such to tie in to Fulgrim and other Characters

 

Some solid guesses! I'm currently speculating:

1. Kakophoni/Noise Marine themed
2. Brotherhood of the Phoenix/Fulgrim & Champions vying for his attention theme
3. Mixed Daemons/EC
4. Flawless Blades themed (might be duplicative with #2?)
5. Combined arms tactics, focusing heavily on the Infractors/Tormentors - maybe with the tactical geniuses that are the Lords Exultant handing out buffs
6. I would absolutely love to see one focused heavily on combat drugs, complete with major downsides

[ZeroWolf]

1 hour ago, Marshal Loss said:

Appreciate you're excited for the new release as we all are, but could we save the model recolour posts for actual EC models coming in this release rather than Age of Sigmar models that have been out for ~4 years?

 

Anyway, circling back to an earlier post:

 

 

Some solid guesses! I'm currently speculating:

1. Kakophoni/Noise Marine themed
2. Brotherhood of the Phoenix/Fulgrim & Champions vying for his attention theme
3. Mixed Daemons/EC
4. Flawless Blades themed (might be duplicative with #2?)
5. Combined arms tactics, focusing heavily on the Infractors/Tormentors - maybe with the tactical geniuses that are the Lords Exultant handing out buffs
6. I would absolutely love to see one focused heavily on combat drugs, complete with major downsides

What downsides would you envision for number 6? Only one I can think of is that as the game progresses they start taking penalties to hit and wound to show the drugs wearing off (this would be turn 6 stuff)

[01RTB01]

1 minute ago, ZeroWolf said:

What downsides would you envision for number 6? Only one I can think of is that as the game progresses they start taking penalties to hit and wound to show the drugs wearing off (this would be turn 6 stuff)

 

Too many buffs generating mortal sounds - similar to "press it" for dread mob.

[Macidious]

2 hours ago, Marshal Loss said:

Appreciate you're excited for the new release as we all are, but could we save the model recolour posts for actual EC models coming in this release rather than Age of Sigmar models that have been out for ~4 years?

 

Anyway, circling back to an earlier post:

 

 

Some solid guesses! I'm currently speculating:

1. Kakophoni/Noise Marine themed
2. Brotherhood of the Phoenix/Fulgrim & Champions vying for his attention theme
3. Mixed Daemons/EC
4. Flawless Blades themed (might be duplicative with #2?)
5. Combined arms tactics, focusing heavily on the Infractors/Tormentors - maybe with the tactical geniuses that are the Lords Exultant handing out buffs
6. I would absolutely love to see one focused heavily on combat drugs, complete with major downsides

What do you think the restriction on the army rule will be , cause they said it was advance , fall back and still charge with a few restrictions, I’m worried it’ll be something ridiculously unreasonable for its power like space marines veteran detachment where everything is once per battle 

[Mandragola]

Must say I'm quite tempted by these guys for Heresy. The basic infantry would work perfectly for most units and should be compatible with heresy weapon upgrades. Ideally I'd run Fulgrim Transfigured, but he's very expensive, fragile and useless.

[Marshal Loss]

1 hour ago, ZeroWolf said:

What downsides would you envision for number 6? Only one I can think of is that as the game progresses they start taking penalties to hit and wound to show the drugs wearing off (this would be turn 6 stuff)

 

That could be really interesting, and I think narratively the EC dosing themselves up and then going through withdrawal afterwards would be pretty cool. Sort of like the Lords of Profligacy/Stupefied effect in 30k but a little more interesting (and less garbage!).

 

Personally I'd like something like 3.5 where units can take their combat drugs and choose to take one or more benefits - but the greedier they get and the more benefits they choose, the more chance of something going badly wrong (in 3.5 it was possible for a character with combat drugs to roll a triple and drop dead instantly, which was hilarious). I'm not sure how it would work in practice though as the 3.5 version was designed as expensive wargear for characters, would cause a lot of book keeping across an army. Maybe something like the Creations of Bile where you can roll for benefits or select a few, but if you select your bonuses/select too many then your units take mortal wounds, could work (too many buffs generating mortal wounds as RTB01 says above).

 

26 minutes ago, Macidious said:

What do you think the restriction on the army rule will be , cause they said it was advance , fall back and still charge with a few restrictions, I’m worried it’ll be something ridiculously unreasonable for its power like space marines veteran detachment where everything is once per battle 

 

To be honest I have no idea - at a guess I don't think it will be once per battle though. It might be restricted to infantry/not vehicles, only work on a certain number of units a turn, who knows. But I wouldn't worry yet as advance & change/fall back and charge can be extremely powerful, speed wins games, and the last couple of times the GW studio has written rules for EC in 8th and 9th edition we were quite potent, and the recent Slaaneshi Daemons detachment is also very strong, so my hunch is we'll do just fine.

[Macidious]

I’m curious to see what the doom siren has become , because of the pixelated datasheet it looks like noise marines don’t have a weapon for the doom siren, maybe it’s an ability now like when you choose to shoot you can choose an ability to power them up like lethal hits or devastating wounds 

[01RTB01]

2 hours ago, Mandragola said:

Must say I'm quite tempted by these guys for Heresy. The basic infantry would work perfectly for most units and should be compatible with heresy weapon upgrades. Ideally I'd run Fulgrim Transfigured, but he's very expensive, fragile and useless.

I'm there. That's what my plans are. I'm not overly likely to play them in 40k but certainly in 30k.

 

However, I will be giving fulgrim transfigured a run out as it'd be rude not to. I don't think he's that fragile, certainly feels solid. He may be useless but he'll look good being useless!

[Elazar The Glorified]

I wondered if the "with some restrictions" on the army rule was going to be for Daemons. Just Legion of Excess does some of that for them - although it depends how they intend the Daemon Detachments from Grotmas to interact with the Daemons in our book (if at all - the Grotmas ones might just continue to point to the Index and we just have different keyworded Daemons).

 

So free use of the rule but some units just can't access it. E.g. Spawn, Daemons, Vehicles maybe

Edited Friday at 01:54 PM by Elazar The Glorified

[Chapter Master Valrak]

I am hearing the EC codex may be due in Feb...

 

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[ZeroWolf]

25 minutes ago, Chapter Master Valrak said:

I am hearing the EC codex may be due in Feb...

 

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Honestly that would fit the timescale GW are seemingly using. Means spring belongs to the other chaos legions (technically if they put them out at the same pace they'll be done by late April!)

[01RTB01]

1 hour ago, Chapter Master Valrak said:

I am hearing the EC codex may be due in Feb...

 

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Sunday 2nd of Feb for announcement, pre order 8th, release 22nd?

 

I'd assume this Sunday we'll see gitmob after such a large eldar and other release.

 

Good news for anything but my wallet...

[Macidious]

1 hour ago, Chapter Master Valrak said:

I am hearing the EC codex may be due in Feb...

 

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They called me crazy about the overlap pre orders for eldar and guard for them to overlap with ec, but look what we have here lol 

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

Good. The sooner they are out the sooner the Imperial Fists can show these purple/pink losers what real beauty looks like. Newsflash: It's yellow!

 

I look forward to smacking some EC around like Dorn smacked Fulgrims ego. 

[LSM]

13 minutes ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

Good. The sooner they are out the sooner the Imperial Fists can show these purple/pink losers what real beauty looks like. Newsflash: It's yellow!

 

I look forward to smacking some EC around like Dorn smacked Fulgrims ego. 

 

Imperial Fists: liked fighting honour duels, bore duelling scars on their faces, and are the masochists that created and enjoy utilising the Pain Glove.

 

Just fall to Slaanesh already. ;P

 

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Vis-à-vis detachments, I broadly agree with folks here.

1. Fulgrim centred
2. Lucius/Flawless Blades themed. [Note that while a lot of people will call his warband The Cohors Nasicae, at the end of Lucius: The Faultless Blade Lucius declares that the Cohors Nasicae is dead, and his new, larger warband will be called his Faultless.)
3. NOISE
4. Combat Drugs detachment (please)
5. Daemonkin integration
6. Pure Daemon? (If Codex: Chaos Daemons is going away, a detachment that forbids Mortals and maybe even allows daemon allies from other books? Though the Grotmas detachment makes this unneeded, I suppose...)

I had previously mentioned that I'd like to see a Detachment where Chaos Lords become <Battleline>. Thanks to the Flawless Blades, I'll have somewhere to use some of my old Lords ('cause I'm definitely building three new Lords Exultant), Dark Apostle, and Master of Possession. But I still think that could be neat, maybe in a Fulgrim-y/hero-hammer set-up.

 

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Vis-à-vis the restrictions on Thrill Seekers: excluding vehicles seems the most sensible. (In the IA list, 'Preds, Havocs, and Land Raiders were 0-1 choices because the Emperor's Children disliked the ignobility of being stuck driving a tank or firing guns that weren't Sonic.) Maybe "Vehicles that aren't Walkers", so that Helbrutes, Defilers, and 'Fiends can still benefit.