EC Rumours

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11 minutes ago, Hathor42 said:

I don't know. i just don't want copy paste special rules of a normal chaoslord. 

They have already said that he has a unique rule but they didn't detail exactly what it does.

[INKS]

I think it's just that there are new models but I keep coming back to these guys. lol

that are pretty small for me so painting any sort of good standard will be difficult I think but the models look cool. they did a good job overall

 

[HeadlessCross]

2 hours ago, Hathor42 said:

I don't know. i just don't want copy paste special rules of a normal chaoslord. 

 

I also hope he can get infiltrate or scout when he joins a unit or he'll hurt his troops a little. 

Remember when GW did that for Death Guard in 8th and those units lacked the extra stats that would've been present for a Nurgle unit? Good times. 

Edited January 29 by HeadlessCross

[Hathor42]

i'm guessing not too many influencers have gotten the dex yet as tabletop tactics just came out with a video trying to guess what will happen with the demons in the codex. 

[Vassakov]

21 minutes ago, Hathor42 said:

i'm guessing not too many influencers have gotten the dex yet as tabletop tactics just came out with a video trying to guess what will happen with the demons in the codex. 

 

1. Their podcasts are usually a week or two behind recordings wise - they put one up after Christmas with them speculating whether Fulgrim would be shown off at Christmas (he was).

 

2. Even if they knew, they'd be under an NDA. 

[Indy Techwisp]

24 minutes ago, Hathor42 said:

i'm guessing not too many influencers have gotten the dex yet as tabletop tactics just came out with a video trying to guess what will happen with the demons in the codex. 

 

Stuff usually comes put around the time they go up for pre-order.
So it's possible they've pre-recorded their videos already and just can't put them out yet.

[Macidious]

7 hours ago, Hathor42 said:

i'm guessing not too many influencers have gotten the dex yet as tabletop tactics just came out with a video trying to guess what will happen with the demons in the codex. 

Things don’t really get set in motion until gw announce on their Sunday preview that the ec box will be on pre order the weekend after 

 

cause after that people may get boxes early and leak it and even if they don’t, gw do community posts most days that week showing rules 

[Nephaston]

3 minutes ago, Macidious said:

cause after that people may get boxes early and leak it and even if they don’t, gw do community posts most days that week showing rules 

And typically the review embargos are lifted on the day of the pre-order.

[Macidious]

24 minutes ago, Nephaston said:

And typically the review embargos are lifted on the day of the pre-order.

Well I’ve heard apparently that pre order announcements won’t be this weekend as some might’ve hoped including me , but I hope it’s wrong 

[ZeroWolf]

39 minutes ago, Macidious said:

Things don’t really get set in motion until gw announce on their Sunday preview that the ec box will be on pre order the weekend after 

 

cause after that people may get boxes early and leak it and even if they don’t, gw do community posts most days that week showing rules 

Influencers are already rumoured to have the box (they normally get two-three week lead up time to make sure things are ready for pre-order day)

[Macidious]

54 minutes ago, ZeroWolf said:

Influencers are already rumoured to have the box (they normally get two-three week lead up time to make sure things are ready for pre-order day)

Yeah a fair amount of people probably have their hands on it , but they won’t show anything until gw put it on pre order, so we just have to wait till gw says go which we have no idea when that will be 

[Antarius]

I get being eager for this, but I’d advise against too much impatience, as that just leads to frustration and feeling bad - we know it’s going to come around eventually and (probably) sooner rather than later. But since we have absolutely no way of impacting GW’s release schedule, it’s probably best to just concentrate on having fun with something else until it goes up for preorder. Me, I’m painting up my second set of enemies for Blackstone Fortress and trying to get some other games in while I wait. I am guessing most of you probably have an unpainted mini or two lying around - maybe even something you’ll eventually be able to use in your EC army 

[Hathor42]

Although I hope I'm wrong I'm going to guess the first of second week of March as that would be around the same timeframe as the guard reveal to guard release. 

[Macidious]

44 minutes ago, Antarius said:

I get being eager for this, but I’d advise against too much impatience, as that just leads to frustration and feeling bad - we know it’s going to come around eventually and (probably) sooner rather than later. But since we have absolutely no way of impacting GW’s release schedule, it’s probably best to just concentrate on having fun with something else until it goes up for preorder. Me, I’m painting up my second set of enemies for Blackstone Fortress and trying to get some other games in while I wait. I am guessing most of you probably have an unpainted mini or two lying around - maybe even something you’ll eventually be able to use in your EC army 

Sadly I’m stuck in warhammer purgatory right now haha , where I’ve built everything in preparation for the release but I can’t paint anything cause I’m waiting for tutorials or paint recipes for box art style so not much I can do right now haha

[HeadlessCross]

15 hours ago, Antarius said:

I get being eager for this, but I’d advise against too much impatience, as that just leads to frustration and feeling bad - we know it’s going to come around eventually and (probably) sooner rather than later. But since we have absolutely no way of impacting GW’s release schedule, it’s probably best to just concentrate on having fun with something else until it goes up for preorder. Me, I’m painting up my second set of enemies for Blackstone Fortress and trying to get some other games in while I wait. I am guessing most of you probably have an unpainted mini or two lying around - maybe even something you’ll eventually be able to use in your EC army 

I just want the rules. I essentially never do the official thing and my Marines will be ran as whatever Power Armor I feel like. Even just a few leaks will satiate my lust for Theoryhammer

Edited January 31 by HeadlessCross

[LSM]

2 hours ago, HeadlessCross said:

I just want the rules. I essentially never do the official thing and my Marines will be ran as whatever Power Armor I feel like. Even just a few leaks will satiate my lust for Theoryhammer

 

I do really want to see the loadout options for Noise Marines (mainly the Disharmonist), so I can finally decided on whether I should rebase by current Sonic Blaster guys or run them as Tormentors.

[Macidious]

5 hours ago, LSM said:

 

I do really want to see the loadout options for Noise Marines (mainly the Disharmonist), so I can finally decided on whether I should rebase by current Sonic Blaster guys or run them as Tormentors.

Yeah I was talking to someone about what I think they might do , I think that sonic blasters will become heavy bolter tier type weapons so increase their range to 36 , then idk maybe increase strength and damage but keep them ap 0 which a strat to give them ap ?

 

and then the blast master varied frequency will be similar to the sonic blaster and then the single frequency will be something similar to a lascannon with more range. But those are just my ideas 

[LSM]

If I were changing Sonic Blasters, I think I'd like to see them go for lower strength and higher AP. (A lot of the lore mentions people being vibrated to death inside their armour, with it providing no protection.)

 

There's a lot you could do with keywords: I could see [Torrent], [Sustained Hits] or [Ignores Cover]. (The latter which they have had in the past, from 6th through 8th.) Or [Psychic], though that's mostly just a debuff...

 

You could also give them [Assault, Heavy] to represent how they used to be Assault 3/Heavy 2 and then Salvo 2/3.

 

Or [Anti-Vehicle ~] on the Blastmaster's single frequency (to represent how in 2nd they always rolled 3d6+8 for Armour Penetration). 

 

They've had a Pinning effect in the past too, though that sort of an effect tends to be a unit Ability in 10th.

 

//

 

To quickly type out Sonic Weapons as they are now (sans Doom Sirens, RIPish, and plus the Screamer Pistol with [Pistol]:

 

Blastmaster - single frequency [Heavy]

Blastmaster - varied frequency

Sonic Blaster [Assault]

Screamer Pistol [Pistol]

 

What's interesting is that if you zoom in on the wee image of the Noise Marine's new datacard we can see that the Blastmaster's two profiles are the same length now, so they're definitely not the exact same as in the Index.

 

Also, while we can't be sure which order the Screamer Pistol and Sonic Blaster are listed in, whichever one is third down is significantly longer than the one fourth down. (Which would not be the case if the one just had [Assault] and the other just had [Pistol].) 

 

So changes have been made to their keywords.

 

Edited January 31 by LSM

[Ahzek451]

On 1/30/2025 at 2:13 AM, Antarius said:

I get being eager for this, but I’d advise against too much impatience, as that just leads to frustration and feeling bad - we know it’s going to come around eventually and (probably) sooner rather than later. But since we have absolutely no way of impacting GW’s release schedule, it’s probably best to just concentrate on having fun with something else until it goes up for preorder. Me, I’m painting up my second set of enemies for Blackstone Fortress and trying to get some other games in while I wait. I am guessing most of you probably have an unpainted mini or two lying around - maybe even something you’ll eventually be able to use in your EC army 

It's just a fact too that for every non new rumor/leak/new info post on this thread extends the release date by a day. They have guy at GW just for this. 

[LSM]

To give my eyes a rest from staring at the tiny datacards, I decided to stare at the tiny box art for the Champions of Slaanesh box. Deep thoughts:

• The right side of the box is mostly taken up by a Lord Exultant, armed with a Rupture Lash and Phoenix Power Spear. He matches the model (~98%, bits are more detailed, etc)... except for the head. The models seen have either MkVII with a topknot, or an unhelmeted conehead/crescent vox-mouth. Art has similar topknot to the one head, but unhelmeted and with apparent modifications to his ears, eyes, and mouth. Probably artistic license, but maybe third head option?
• There is a Noise Marine, and we can see a glow emanating from the mouths of his Sonic Blaster and Doom Siren (?). But it quickly transitions from a glow into a waveform distortion. So for those wondering how to conceptualise Sonic Weapons firing: energy around the mouth, and then visible energy waves as it travels.
• The Noise Marine art also depicts stretched skin over his left pauldron, which none of the models seem to have (instead just having boring pristine 30k-ish EC iconography). There are also a lot of tubes/feeds running into his head, which are not present on the models.
• To the right of the Noise Marine is what appears to be a "basic marine" wielding a Phoenix Power Spear. Possibly a Champion option in the Tormentor/Infractor kit we haven't seen yet? I can't imagine them passing up an opportunity to show it off, so probably not, but... maybe...
• Aside: now that "Noise Marines" isn't the catch-all term for Slaanesh's devoted, we really need something new so that I don't have to keep writing Tormentors/Infractors.
• Between the Noise Marine and the Spear wielder is what looks like a WHFB Slaanesh Marauder. (Dude not in power armour, crab claw.)
• Left of the Noise Marine is an Infractor Champion with dinky Combat Drug vial and daemon-face chestplate/studded left shoulder pad (not in kit).
• Above the Champion is a Flawless Blade, but he's too blurry for there to be anything of note.
• Top left is Fulgrim, and we see his one sword fully lit up (for anyone doubting that it's Firebrand). It does make one wonder why they haven't made the model's be aflame as well.
• Colour scheme: while the whole piece is tinted purple for effect... that colour scheme really does look purple and gold to me. If one looks at the Lord Exultant, on the model the icon is gold, the spear's blade is silver, and his trim is silver. In the art, the trim is the same colour as the icon, not the blade - it's gold, not silver. The left leg could be pink and black, and the topknot could be pink. I'd love to get the story of why the art is predominantly purple and gold while the models are pink, black, and silver - there must have been some kind of clash internally. 

[Marshal Loss]

By way of update, Valrak said in his latest video that he has heard the EC launch box will be announced next week and go up for preorder on 15 Feb with the release date being 1 March. I'd expected a week or two of non-40k releases following the IG wave but fingers crossed!

[Hathor42]

Curse the Eldar and whatever diamond box they put the EC in so we couldn't get any leaks! 

[HeadlessCross]

Coolio, so WHERE ARE MY GODDAMN LEAKS

[LSM]

Important breaking news:

 

While going over the video again (trying to look at the Flawless Blades) I noticed a vital piece of information.

 

The body of the Tormentor/Infractor with the speaker-face on the right grieve?

 

Studded codpiece.

[Fire Golem]

1 hour ago, LSM said:

Important breaking news:

 

While going over the video again (trying to look at the Flawless Blades) I noticed a vital piece of information.

 

The body of the Tormentor/Infractor with the speaker-face on the right grieve?

 

Studded codpiece.

Who needs rules leaks when we’ve got this? :P