LSM Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, Rain said: Are WB *not* worshippers of Chaos Undivided anymore? When was this changed? Do you just mean that under current rules each squad can take a Chaos mark to change their Dark Pact bonuses? Because that can be explained as them praying to a specific god before the battle... Fair enough. (I'm just being salty that the Slaves to Darkness/Pactbound Zealots detachment, which I thought fit the Black Legion really well, got hand-me-down'd to the Word Bearers in the 10th edition Codex, instead of a daemon-summoning detachment that I was hoping for.) Quick note: while checking some old sources, I noticed that the Index Astartes articles (which created Dark Apostles) had this to say: "During the Horus Heresy most of the Chaplains of the Traitor Legions resisted the taint of Chaos and were murdered by their brethren. The Chaplains of the Word Bearers Legion embraced Chaos willingly though and as an act of faith ritually desecrated their once sacred weapons." (As explanation for why Dark Apostles - via the Accursed Crozius daemon weapon - were Word Bearer only.) Now obviously that's changed, and in 6th Dark Apostles became a common unit, available to all. But if the idea of Cult Legion codexes is to push them back into their 2nd and 3rd edition shape, it's not too surprising that other 2nd and 3rd edition concepts (and restrictions) start cropping up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Fulgrim is on a 130mm. TheHaplessHeretic, skylerboodie, Dalmyth and 3 others 2 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I'm not doubting it but this means he's on a larger base than his brothers or younger self. Curious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 8 minutes ago, 01RTB01 said: I'm not doubting it but this means he's on a larger base than his brothers or younger self. Curious. The model designers tried to fit him on a 100mm, but he's dummy snekk. ursvamp, Dalmyth, 01RTB01 and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 130mm is slightly annoying from a consistency standpoint, but I will survive. Then again him hogging more space than default is also in character. Dalmyth, TheNicronomicon, 01RTB01 and 3 others 5 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 58 minutes ago, Nephaston said: 130mm is slightly annoying from a consistency standpoint, but I will survive. Then again him hogging more space than default is also in character. The extra 30mm was for his ego. TheNicronomicon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Minicompare was updated accordingly. While I did like the idea that Fulgrim was the shortest of the four (completely disregarding his tail in his complete length of course) this works out nicely. skylerboodie, Borbarad, HolyPestilience and 2 others 3 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenobite Terminator Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Can EC take predators? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 19 minutes ago, Cenobite Terminator said: Can EC take predators? No. Also no Helbrutes, Forgefiends, Cultists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comandante Alexos Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) Guys, this evening I received the box and….prepare to be surprised, cause they are HUGE. Slightly taller than the common Plague Marine and Noise Marines I think are same or even taller than a Primaris. I’m stunned. Edited March 4 by Comandante Alexos Crimson Longinus and Dalmyth 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 13 minutes ago, Comandante Alexos said: Guys, this evening I received the box and….prepare to be surprised, cause they are HUGE. Slightly taller than the common Plague Marine and Noise Marines I think are same or even taller than a Primaris. I’m stunned. Enjoy the minis! Quick question on the combat patrol. Are the infractors one squad of ten and what loadout does the sergeant there and the Lord exultant have please? Thanks in advance and enjoy, such fun! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Praetorian of Inwit Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Are Predators still Legends? I ask because EC are a brand new faction and I don't know if Legends apply to new factions? Maschinenpriester 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessCross Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 16 hours ago, Nephaston said: No. Also no Helbrutes, Forgefiends, Cultists. No Vindicators, Bikers, Terminator Lords/Sorcerers either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 27 minutes ago, Comandante Alexos said: Guys, this evening I received the box and….prepare to be surprised, cause they are HUGE. Slightly taller than the common Plague Marine and Noise Marines I think are same or even taller than a Primaris. I’m stunned. So Primaris become essentially typical marines in all but name, and thats the 'new' scale of Astartes. phandaal and Crimson Longinus 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 6 minutes ago, Scribe said: So Primaris become essentially typical marines in all but name, and thats the 'new' scale of Astartes. Well sort of. They are still making the older Marines shorter than Primaris (Crowe is a recent example of one who is shorter than a Primaris, as is that Black Templar Castellan), it's just that the EC are tall and lean, likely to give them a unique silhouette so they don't blend into the larger CSM line. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Broke out Minicompare to see if I do some line things up a bit more. The baseline EC seem to be the same height as other CSM (as in just a bit shorter than Intercessors) while Noise Marines are about dead one with Primaris and Flawless Blades tower over everyone. Dr_Ruminahui, Daemonic Brother and HolyPestilience 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, BitsHammer said: Broke out Minicompare to see if I do some line things up a bit more. The baseline EC seem to be the same height as other CSM (as in just a bit shorter than Intercessors) while Noise Marines are about dead one with Primaris and Flawless Blades tower over everyone. Hilarious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comandante Alexos Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, 01RTB01 said: Enjoy the minis! Quick question on the combat patrol. Are the infractors one squad of ten and what loadout does the sergeant there and the Lord exultant have please? Thanks in advance and enjoy, such fun! I’m focusing on miniatures but I see the Lord is armed with spear and powerfist, the Champion with whip and plasma pistol. The miniatures are way better when you get them in your hands, GW pics don’t give justice to these sculpts. 1 hour ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said: Are Predators still Legends? I ask because EC are a brand new faction and I don't know if Legends apply to new factions? Predators are gone. Edited March 4 by Comandante Alexos 01RTB01 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbarad Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 23 hours ago, Nephaston said: Minicompare was updated accordingly. While I did like the idea that Fulgrim was the shortest of the four (completely disregarding his tail in his complete length of course) this works out nicely. I never realised how massive Magnus is Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 hours ago, BitsHammer said: Broke out Minicompare to see if I do some line things up a bit more. The baseline EC seem to be the same height as other CSM (as in just a bit shorter than Intercessors) while Noise Marines are about dead one with Primaris and Flawless Blades tower over everyone. "My Lord! The loyalist scum are taller now!" "Curses upon the Corpse Emperor, we can't have that. Apothecary! Stretch my bones!" Iron Father Ferrum, phandaal, Dr_Ruminahui and 6 others 8 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Comandante Alexos said: I’m focusing on miniatures but I see the Lord is armed with spear and powerfist, the Champion with whip and plasma pistol. The miniatures are way better when you get them in your hands, GW pics don’t give justice to these sculpts. Predators are gone. Cheers boss, much appreciated. Honestly, I cannot wait to get my hands on them. My spring break is going to involve a lot of building! I've put together a 1k crusade list that I'll go at from the box(es). Old Christmas noise marine will stand in for the Kakophonist. I'll add things like flawless blades as the crusade goes on (and they get released). Lord Exultant 10 Infractors Lord Kakophonist Noise Marines Rhino Lord Exultant 10 Tormentors Noise Marines Rhino Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 For those also interested in incorporating parts into 30k-era traitor EC forces, a youtuber ('Hellstorm Wargaming') did so in a recent video: skylerboodie, Fire Golem, Aarik and 3 others 3 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 13 minutes ago, Marshal Loss said: For those also interested in incorporating parts into 30k-era traitor EC forces, a youtuber ('Hellstorm Wargaming') did so in a recent video: I saw that, kitbashing mkvi with spares. Works incredibly well. It seemed as though they wondered if GW would cancel their partnership over it. Here's hoping they don't. Marshal Loss 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSM Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 With folks receiving the box, has anyone seen an image of all 17 of the heads in the Noise Marine kit? (I'm curious about the 5 that haven't officially been shown off. All of the sprue images I've come across just showed the backs of the heads.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, LSM said: With folks receiving the box, has anyone seen an image of all 17 of the heads in the Noise Marine kit? (I'm curious about the 5 that haven't officially been shown off. All of the sprue images I've come across just showed the backs of the heads.) Fair shout and seconded :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384251-ec-rumours/page/94/#findComment-6098400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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