What happened with the warhammer TV/Film on Amazon ?

[StraightSilver]

I think it goes without saying that both Amazon and GW will want Astartes front and centre in this. I suspect, for that reason, we will get a brand new, standalone story. If they were going to adapt an existing story though, for me, Dan Abnett's Grey Dawn: Undertaking to Baal Solock (part of the Brothers of the Snake) would make an interesting movie and a good introduction to 40K.

In an ideal world though we'd get Gaunt's Ghosts presented as "Band of Brothers in Space" or Eisenhorn, but I just think Space marines will need to feature heavily in this, which is a shame as there are better stories to be told without them being front and centre.

As for the deal itself, the deadline isn't up yet and it will be a long time before we hear anything.

[Tymell]

On 11/13/2024 at 3:36 AM, Lord Nord in Gravis Armour said:

Short answer: the success of Space Marine 2 is actually an indicator of how much an Amazon Warhammer show would suck. Most of the things people love about that game would have gotten yeeted if Amazon were overseeing development, and all of the divisive modern-day concerns that MUST be a part of any Amazon Studios show would render the property unrecognizable and unwatchable.

 

Exactly, just like happened with the Fallout series-oh wait, that was really good and shows that the quality will depend on who is behind it rather than just "it's Amazon and modern therefore it will suck".

[loginomicon]

On 11/13/2024 at 2:27 AM, Craig said:

What do you mean? The Boys is probably Amazon's most successful show right now and it is as extreme in most ways as it gets. Why would Amazon's involvement make a TV show based on 40k any different than a game based on 40k?

 

While shows like fallout give me hope that they would do justice to the source material. The boys is another mather while de change done to the source material are very good. The later seasons kinda show their color and tend to send the narrative in weird really bad directions.

[Emperor Ming]

30 minutes ago, loginomicon said:

While shows like fallout give me hope

A new hope

 

Fallout was amazing

[Karhedron]

4 hours ago, Emperor Ming said:

Isnt Eishorn alive in the current date anyway?

 

M42.012

 

Spoiler warning for Bequin Trilogy

 

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He is certainly still alive at the end of Bequin: Penitant. He is getting old but between his experience and psychic powers, can still beat up a Word Bearer in HTH. I haven't seen anything about Eisenhorn set after the Fall of Cadia but feel free to let me know if I have missed a story somewhere.

 

Edited November 14 by Karhedron

[phandaal]

33 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said:

A new hope

 

Fallout was amazing

 

They have a better handle on Sci-fi than fantasy apparently.

 

Expanse, Fallout - enjoyed by fans.

LotR, Wheel of Time - desecration.

 

40k is Sci-fi. So... hope? 

[crimsondave]

5 hours ago, Karhedron said:

 

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He is certainly still alive at the end of Bequin: Penitant. He is getting old but between his experience and psychic powers, can still beat up a Word Bearer in HTH. I haven't seen anything about Eisenhorn set after the Fall of Cadia but feel free to let me know if I have missed a story somewhere.

 

Even more Bequin spoilers…
 

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I don’t believe for one second GW will bring back Valdor as a traitor.  Total conjecture, but I could see Valdor, Eisenhorn, Ravenor, and Bequin all exiting the City of Dust with the army of blanks in the current timeline just in time to rescue the Imperium from <pick an enemy>.

 

[HeadlessCross]

14 hours ago, phandaal said:

 

They have a better handle on Sci-fi than fantasy apparently.

 

Expanse, Fallout - enjoyed by fans.

LotR, Wheel of Time - desecration.

 

40k is Sci-fi. So... hope? 

I'd argue 40k is more fantasy in space. Sooooooooo that's a coin flip. 

[SvenIronhand]

On 11/13/2024 at 5:36 PM, Evil Eye said:

Calling it now, the show is actually a serialized retelling of Jingle All The Way, with Arnie playing a Space Marine desperate to buy his favourite chapter serf a Turbomarine toy for Sanguinalia, and goes on a galaxy-spanning adventure to get it all whilst being hounded by a crackpot Administratum clerk.

 

I actually think Sinbad is funny in that. Sue me. The bomb scene, especially.

As for the 40k show, it'll likely happen. That's my 5 cents.

 

Edited November 15 by SvenIronhand

[grailkeeper]

Maybe this is how we find out that Necrons all actually speak with Arnie's voice.

 

" I told you I'd be back".

Edited November 15 by grailkeeper

[Marshal Reinhard]

I guess I'll be the odd man out and say I didn't like the fallout show, which while not encouraging, still doesn't mean a 40k show will be bad is a forgone conclusion.

[grailkeeper]

37 minutes ago, Marshal Reinhard said:

I guess I'll be the odd man out and say I didn't like the fallout show, which while not encouraging, still doesn't mean a 40k show will be bad is a forgone conclusion.

I thought it was excellent. My wife who never played the games also loved it.

[DukeLeto69]

Pure speculation here…all these rumours and insider knowledge that the Amazon deal is dead, Cavill has walked yadda yadda has actually been gold dust from a marketing POV as people, even casuals and normies are lapping it up. Getting lots of coverage during a period when there would actually have been very little to discuss.

 

I reckon the deal is just fine. GW are very fierce protectors of their IP and they have spent time working with Amazon on their playbook/IP guidelines to ensure their IP is not diluted.

 

Also keeps the share price suppressed in the lead up to the official announcement which will no doubt see the share price jump considerably (wonder if some execs been building up their shareholding hmmmm). 

 

 

[DukeLeto69]

On 11/14/2024 at 2:35 PM, Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla said:

 

They've already tried with Eisenhorn, but it went nowhere.

Not quite right sorry.

 

Frank Spotnitz and Big Light Productions were developing Eisenhorn. They already had relationship with Amazon for Man in the High Castle and were a catalyst for the GW/Amazon deal.

 

Eisenhorn isn’t dead. It just got wrapped up in a far bigger and more complex deal that takes a lot of time to sort out.

[Karhedron]

I am sure that they updated the artwork on the latest Eisenhorn omnibus to make him look a bit more like HC. 

 

[Magos Takatus]

34 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

I am sure that they updated the artwork on the latest Eisenhorn omnibus to make him look a bit more like HC. 

 

He does have that sort of appearance now, I'll certainly give you that.

[roryokane]

On 11/13/2024 at 1:09 PM, Wormwoods said:

The sheer, unrelenting power of my ambivalence about a Warhammer show on streaming killed it. My bad. 

The oft-overlooked discipline that is Meh-cromancy....
I'll see myself to the servitor conversion chamber for that one.

[Xenith]

On 11/14/2024 at 6:01 PM, phandaal said:

 

They have a better handle on Sci-fi than fantasy apparently.

 

Expanse, Fallout - enjoyed by fans.

LotR, Wheel of Time - desecration.

 

40k is Sci-fi. So... hope? 

 

I think it would class itself as Science-Fantasy (knights, elves, orcs and goblins in space), so maybe the worst of both? 

Edited December 6 by Xenith

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

On 11/14/2024 at 5:49 PM, crimsondave said:

Even more Bequin spoilers…
 

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I don’t believe for one second GW will bring back Valdor as a traitor.  Total conjecture, but I could see Valdor, Eisenhorn, Ravenor, and Bequin all exiting the City of Dust with the army of blanks in the current timeline just in time to rescue the Imperium from <pick an enemy>.

 

That’s what I’ve been thinking.

get pandemonium to set it all up, and then maybe the Amazon show follows up more or less directly from where the book leaves off?

On 11/14/2024 at 1:01 PM, phandaal said:

 

They have a better handle on Sci-fi than fantasy apparently.

 

Expanse, Fallout - enjoyed by fans.

LotR, Wheel of Time - desecration.

 

40k is Sci-fi. So... hope? 

40K is sci-fantasy as many have said.

its just fantasy set in space.

[skylerboodie]

https://www.londonstockexchange.com/news-article/GAW/agreement-with-amazon-for-films-and-tv-series/16803258

[DukeLeto69]

10 minutes ago, skylerboodie said:

https://www.londonstockexchange.com/news-article/GAW/agreement-with-amazon-for-films-and-tv-series/16803258

thanks for this! As I said above, the deal was just fine but the hyperbole about it being dead generated loads of social media noise, ie FREE marketing.

 

Part of me also thinks GW were using the very vocal IP protecting passion of the fanbase as leverage to ensure the deal with Amazon was in their favour (ie protected the IP).

[Axineton]

Cavill posted this about an hour ago on insta too.

[DukeLeto69]

So all that social media hyperbole was exactly that. Unfounded speculation driving clickbait. Good!

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

On 12/10/2024 at 4:53 AM, DukeLeto69 said:

So all that social media hyperbole was exactly that. Unfounded speculation driving clickbait. Good!

The only videos I saw with titles about the deal being over, were channels I’d never watched or heard of before, so clearly people trying to break into the space with clickbait and outrage.

[Domhnall]

5 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

The only videos I saw with titles about the deal being over, were channels I’d never watched or heard of before, so clearly people trying to break into the space with clickbait and outrage.

Unfortunately there's good money to be had in the socials for making click bait and outrage videos. I'm not saying a bit of outrage or complaining is necessarily a bad thing, when it's for a justifiable reason, but these ones that just churn out stuff like "GW CEO turns out to be a raccoon and only wants your sweetie wrappers!" or some such guff get clicks and comments and they've found that brings in more pennies for them than decent content. 

How many times have we been on Instabooktok and there are posts (for anything) that you just feel you want to comment how wrong they are and it's not like that.... Yeah... more views, more comments, more pennies unfortunately. Negativity sells. 

 

I heard someone say once, If you have a question, don't ask that question as few will answer; but give a wrong answer and everybody will be round to correct you. 

Seems it works for more than just questions.