Petitioner's City Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 Alas GW seem to be chasing down Tortuga Bay. Very depressing. If you do want to order from them, now might be the time! ThaneOfTas, Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf, Evil Eye and 2 others 1 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doobles57 Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 It's a shame to see. Some of their newest releases have sailed a bit close to some recent official releases which might have been the straw that the broke the IP infringements back. I'd been hoping they'd do more of their not-Thunder Warriors. Might try and grab a few more in case I ever get to that project. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalt Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 I don't think GW cared much about them doing upscaled/alternative versions of OOP bits just like many other 3rd party companies. But they've released more and more blatant copies of 40k/30k minis, so GW is probably legally obligated to sue them. A shame, because Torguga clearly covers a demand about products that GW is not willing to address. Marshal Reinhard, ThaneOfTas, Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 It might be due to the individual character models they're selling, rather than the upscaled sets of SM armor mks. Just looking at their New Releases you've got pretty spot on versions of Titus, Lemartes, and a Primaris-sized BA Captain w/all the weapon options the new one has. I can see GW getting a little testy about that, and unlike Artel W, Tortuga is based out of Ukraine, which means that they can be hit a lot easier with IP infringement issues than Artel's Russian location. ThaneOfTas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 This is a shame to hear, and it is almost certainly the "counts as" Characters that have done them in. ThaneOfTas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 Yeah, I've just had a look and their "Space Vampires Guard Captain" is fairly blatant copyright infringement. It's one thing producing add-ons and alternative designs, but those are far too close to a replacement product that just infringes on GW's product so I don't have a lot of sympathy here. Casual Heresy, Gamiel, Matcap86 and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 This was inevitable with how close Tortuga were flying to the sun. It's unfortunate, but incredibly self-inflicted. lansalt, Aeternus, ThaneOfTas and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch5000 Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 I note that it says "page" rather than "business", but then it also says "colleagues" rather than "IP donors", so maybe it is a translation quirk? Aeternus and Gamiel 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormwoods Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 Yeah I've never looked at them before, that's alarmingly blatant. I mean, that's one way to avoid the 'knock-off space marine looks uncanny' problem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 30 minutes ago, Wormwoods said: Yeah I've never looked at them before, that's alarmingly blatant. I mean, that's one way to avoid the 'knock-off space marine looks uncanny' problem. They've mainly served the community for upscale bodies, for use in conjunction with GW kits. At one point in time they even sold cleaned up plague marine body recasts. madlibrarian 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessCross Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 Damn, if I weren't going to school right now I'd 100% buy some of the Mk3 stuff ASAP. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 The Empire comes for all pirates in the end Avast Cenobite Terminator 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 Man, that's a shame. They were always a bit too THICC for my tastes but I'm still sad to see them whacked. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 (edited) I think it literally just got taken down EDIT: Nevermind, it's back Edited November 18 by Indy Techwisp Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalt Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 Depending on where it's hosted, their site is probably an easy target. But they're still in a non-EU country and life finds a way. I just hope they restrain themselves but keep selling most of their least IP infringing catalogue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneOfTas Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 Well both the website and Instagram page is still up at least, i definitely agree that the counts as characters aree probably whats causing the issues, as much as I like them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcomet Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 Honestly surprised it took them so long. Tortuga has been making direct copies for a long time Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 I actually prefer their Lemartes to the official Primaris version. lansalt, ThaneOfTas, Cenobite Terminator and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoriyaSchism Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 I hope they stick with out of production replica items. It's the only place these days where I can get Mars pattern jump packs without 3D printing. ThaneOfTas and roryokane 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspecti Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 Somehow I've never noticed they make 30k weapon bits as well. Anyone know if for example the M4 energy claws they make are also "true scale" or would they fit normal sized MK4 plastic models? roryokane 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 6 hours ago, Karhedron said: I actually prefer their Lemartes to the official Primaris version. To each their own Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384619-message-from-tortuga-bay/#findComment-6076452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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