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19 hours ago, lansalt said:

Going by Know No Fear and other stories,  it was during the battle of Calth and the Shadow Crusade. At that point they no longer had to keep pretending.

You make a good point, forgot about the shadow crusade.  Thank you.  

  • 3 weeks later...

Yeah it was definitely a sliding process rather than "hey we're CSM now".

 

Something like  Monarchia/Emperor's rebuke -> pilgrimage to the Eye of Terror -> shadow crusade -> dropsite massacre -> daemonic ascension -> siege

 

So they had certainly fully embraced chaos (ideologically) before the Heresy, but the physical/operational transformaton was solidified during it. By the SoT, they had fully integrated chaos rituals/warpcraft/etc.  I'd say the pilgrimage they made was probably the real point of no return as that's when Lorgar really embraced chaos and communed with it, and when they revealed the Imperial Truth was... not True.

 

 

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