Grotmas Calendar 2024 - New Detachments Edition

[Borbarad]

Seems like someone at GW was at a marketing seminar “how to cross-sell your products” prior to writing these detachements 

[Indy Techwisp]

5 minutes ago, Borbarad said:

Seems like someone at GW was at a marketing seminar “how to cross-sell your products” prior to writing these detachements 

 

They got the AoS team to make these ones right after they did the Regiments of Renown, so they still had their Cross-faction brains on.

28 minutes ago, Doctor Perils said:

Interesting - for 40k or heresy? Or perhaps LI?

War in the Webway could legitimately be anything tho.

[chapter master 454]

Interesting to note that the detachment doesn't have anything about completeing your oath from Code Chivalric which may imply that mechanic is also getting a rework in the new knight codex (since this detachment would be in addition to what knights have in their new codex).

 

Certainly a detachment. Will need to check on new recruit what the units available offer knights and if there are any decent synergies that could be found or if it will be "Bring some Tech-Priests for wound recovery"

[Jscarlos18]

Huh, not that it matters much but they changed the faction icons for the two factions.

 

Grey Knights next, weird they haven't released the Space Marine detachment yet.

[Indy Techwisp]

2 minutes ago, chapter master 454 said:

Interesting to note that the detachment doesn't have anything about completeing your oath from Code Chivalric which may imply that mechanic is also getting a rework in the new knight codex (since this detachment would be in addition to what knights have in their new codex).

 

Certainly a detachment. Will need to check on new recruit what the units available offer knights and if there are any decent synergies that could be found or if it will be "Bring some Tech-Priests for wound recovery"

 

Another interesting thing to note is that the Chaos Knights Detachment with it's inbuilt Damned chaff does quite squarely step on the toes of the current meta strategy of bringing along summoned Daemon chaff.

Almost like it's in preparation for Chaos Knights losing access to summoned Daemons in the future...

[Indy Techwisp]

15 minutes ago, Jscarlos18 said:

Huh, not that it matters much but they changed the faction icons for the two factions.

 

Grey Knights next, weird they haven't released the Space Marine detachment yet.

 

I'm guessing they're still trying to make the Drop Pod "Steel Rain" Detachment work.

 

Either that or they messed up the schedule and we were meant to get it last week.

[DemonGSides]

I doubt they're changing anything about the detatchments at this point. 

 

I bet the SM stuff released alongside the expected data slate update.  Big fanfare for the main boys. 

[Focslain]

1 hour ago, chapter master 454 said:

Interesting to note that the detachment doesn't have anything about completeing your oath from Code Chivalric which may imply that mechanic is also getting a rework in the new knight codex (since this detachment would be in addition to what knights have in their new codex).

 

Certainly a detachment. Will need to check on new recruit what the units available offer knights and if there are any decent synergies that could be found or if it will be "Bring some Tech-Priests for wound recovery"

Noticed that too. Hoping it's a rework and not a removal. 

 

Also you can't target the Perceptor with the double bondsmen strat. Looks like it's losing that ability again. 

 

Not sure how I feel about not having Rotate Ion though. Otherwise a neat addition and gives me something else to add in that 100 pts hole most of my list tend to have.

 

Also a Titanic OW strat is nice too. 

[sairence]

I'm very whelmed by this Imperial Mnight detachment. It offers very little that you can't already do with Knights and Agents. The AdMech units that would been genuinely interesting (melee infantry) are locked out, and the options you give up are quite steep.

 

So, kind of a pass for me. Guess it's nice for AdMech players to have gotten 2 new detachments to play with. At least this won't take up design space in the Codex.

[Indy Techwisp]

I just wanna say, I like how the response to the Knight detachments here has been a sort of "OK, that's cool." to "Nice, this shores up a gap in the army." where as the response they're getting from the factions dedicated Reddits is closer to "Oh god please no GW you have given us a Detachment that does literally nothing this is the worse release all year."

[phandaal]

7 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said:

I just wanna say, I like how the response to the Knight detachments here has been a sort of "OK, that's cool." to "Nice, this shores up a gap in the army." where as the response they're getting from the factions dedicated Reddits is closer to "Oh god please no GW you have given us a Detachment that does literally nothing this is the worse release all year."

 

Yep, it is nice to see people not leaning so hard on that meta goblin mindset. We have had a small amount of "reddit attitude" coming over here of course, but for the most part people seem to be taking these detachments for fun and fluff whenever they are not obviously the strongest.

[Indy Techwisp]

6 minutes ago, phandaal said:

 

Yep, it is nice to see people not leaning so hard on that meta goblin mindset. We have had a small amount of "reddit attitude" coming over here of course, but for the most part people seem to be taking these detachments for fun and fluff whenever they are not obviously the strongest.

 

I think something a lot of people aren't getting is that the Detachments coming out for factions who's codex isn't out are seemingly based on what's going to be in that codex (or at least the indev version as of right now).

As such, if something seems off with it, it's probably based around something we don't offically know exists yet.

[TheMawr]

2 hours ago, Indy Techwisp said:

War in the Webway could legitimately be anything tho.

 

Sigh

Yes, the webway, related to absolutely anything.. there is nothing that is specifically very related to the webway

double sigh

So this is how the angry mob that didnt get terminators and genestealers in the spacehulk KT setting felt right ?

Edited December 9 by TheMawr

[Indy Techwisp]

6 minutes ago, TheMawr said:

Sigh

Yes, the webway, related to absolutely anything.. there is nothing that is specifically very related to the webway

double sigh

So this is how the angry mob that didnt get terminators and genestealers in the spacehulk KT setting felt right ?

 

All flavours of Aeldari use the Webway.

Custodes are having an ongoing brawl in the badly designed human copy of it.

Daemons are also having that same ongoing brawl.

Thousand Sons repeatedly break into it (to the point our old "Deep Strike" term was "set up a unit in the webway".)

And Jaghatai Khan is still riding around in it somewhere.

Edited December 9 by Indy Techwisp

[Casual Heresy]

The Loyalist Knight one is interesting. Not my thing as I'm not the biggest fan of AdMech but happy for those are excited by it.

 

The Chaos Knight one I really like though. I've got an Abominant in the works to go with my Thousand Sons and inevitably will be expanded into an army one day (Iknow what I'm like), but the detachment dosen't seem to favour Wardogs too much which I'm fine with. I'd rather avoid an 'oops all wardogs' collection and focus on the bigger knights. Threw together a quick list of an Abominant, rampager, despoiler, 2x brigands and 3x each of cultist mobs (2x 20s and a 10) and Traitor Guard plus enhancements and it looks like a fun and thematic list.

[DemonGSides]

1 hour ago, Indy Techwisp said:

I just wanna say, I like how the response to the Knight detachments here has been a sort of "OK, that's cool." to "Nice, this shores up a gap in the army." where as the response they're getting from the factions dedicated Reddits is closer to "Oh god please no GW you have given us a Detachment that does literally nothing this is the worse release all year."

Everyone on Reddit is a runner up to the Warhammer Championship, of course.

[Mogger351]

2 hours ago, DemonGSides said:

Everyone on Reddit is a runner up to the Warhammer Championship, of course.

"Why shouldn't they be upset that they don't want to pay $200 to use this detachment!" Sort of stuff flying round, like it's mandatory or something.

Edited December 9 by Mogger351

[HeadlessCross]

8 hours ago, Jscarlos18 said:

Huh, not that it matters much but they changed the faction icons for the two factions.

 

Grey Knights next, weird they haven't released the Space Marine detachment yet.

They'll probably release it during close to the slate. 

[HeadlessCross]

7 hours ago, Indy Techwisp said:

I just wanna say, I like how the response to the Knight detachments here has been a sort of "OK, that's cool." to "Nice, this shores up a gap in the army." where as the response they're getting from the factions dedicated Reddits is closer to "Oh god please no GW you have given us a Detachment that does literally nothing this is the worse release all year."

The dedicated subreddits have always been cancerous to some extent. The Competitve WH subreddit is better since they'll actually help people with Lists and actually look at the rules themselves. 

[Borbarad]

After seening those Knights detachements and their allies focus, I think Khore Daemonkin is back on the cards. 

[Indy Techwisp]

1 minute ago, Borbarad said:

After seening those Knights detachements and their allies focus, I think Khore Daemonkin is back on the cards. 

 

If the rumours are true, then you're getting Khorne Daemons in the codex.

Then again, Hexwarp Thrallband is very blatantly a "Tzeentch Daemons" detachment, so you could still get a daemon/daemonkin detachment now with no daemons to benefit from it.

[Cenobite Terminator]

I think some detachments are more for the flavor than being hard competitive mode.

[Tastyfish]

I think all of them are designed to be, it's just occasionally the hard competitive mode sneaks in.

[chapter master 454]

59 minutes ago, Cenobite Terminator said:

I think some detachments are more for the flavor than being hard competitive mode.

 

HOW DARE...no fun will be had here nor flavour! Nothing but power crept detachments and nothing to be given for anything called "Fluffy". Who do you think we are? People that play make-believe with plastic soldiers that we then have simulated fights by rolling 6 sided objects? Nay, we are super serious sportpeople!

 

-ahem-

 

It is flavourful but it does lack in a lot of regards considering some other installments. The hilariously restricted unit count is certainly something I think was maybe overdone and could of maybe expanded to include enginseers, Kataphrons and maybe something else. As it stands...Rangers and Vanguards aren't exactly wowing me.

Only benefit is that we now have access to a sticky objective unit...but losing Rotate and a 6+++ isn't exactly worth that imo.

[Tastyfish]

Yeah, I'd have personally preferred to see the big walkers charging in with the smaller Sydonians and Serbrys units keeping pace.

The Admech & Knights one isn't terrible though I do like the theme of the Chaos Knight more more.