MaximusTL Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 i think getting blessings of khorne on five units a turn is pretty damn solid. while they will benefit from the same blessing, giving three units, say, advance and charge is really good. Getting to choose which blessing is active for multiple units is really, really good. you can get around the epic hero targeting by picking the champion of the unit that Khârn or invocatus are leading too. Angron will just have to make do with the normal blessings of khorne rolls. N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 Seems fine. Has the same issue that non LAG has for Blood Angels; the original detatchment rule is just so strong with how you want to play the game. That being said, even if you just choose 3 units to always have Advance and Charge, that's probably enough. With the regular army rule giving the entire army a buff off of whatever you manage to roll, then nominating your 3 specialist units to be advance and charge, you probably get what you want. Super happy if you also manage to get Warp Blades, or grab that if you don't have a need for 3 advance and charges. Not a big fan of the "pick 3 models/units to get buffs" detatchments, but this one is probably fine with WE's army rule. N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSM Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 (Heh. As with the Khorne Daemons, there's a Noise Marine in that sidebar art.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L30n1d4s Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 (edited) I dunno, this WE detachment seems like one of the best ones in all of Grotmas... very strong detachment rules (guaranteeing what you need for 3 units every Command Phase is very powerful), the enhancements are all either solid or very strong, and the 6 strategems might be the most universally good one of any detachment in the game (all cost 1 CP, all very useful/usable, and all measurably enhancing WEs units without too many hoops to jump through)... sticky objectivs, -1 to wound, full rerolls to wound against Monsters/Vehicles, Blood Surge moves for all, forcing Desperate Escapes at -1 all are pretty amazing! Edited December 23, 2024 by L30n1d4s Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 Quote Join us in a few months for World Easter, our next seasonal Warhammer crossover Sign of a codex release window? Borbarad and Dark Shepherd 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessCross Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 1 hour ago, DemonGSides said: Seems fine. Has the same issue that non LAG has for Blood Angels; the original detatchment rule is just so strong with how you want to play the game. That being said, even if you just choose 3 units to always have Advance and Charge, that's probably enough. With the regular army rule giving the entire army a buff off of whatever you manage to roll, then nominating your 3 specialist units to be advance and charge, you probably get what you want. Super happy if you also manage to get Warp Blades, or grab that if you don't have a need for 3 advance and charges. Not a big fan of the "pick 3 models/units to get buffs" detatchments, but this one is probably fine with WE's army rule. The original detachment rule is just +1S/A on the charge though, no? I'd argue that buff is insignificant as a whole with the already dangerous offensive output their units have. Borbarad 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbarad Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 27 minutes ago, Mogger351 said: Sign of a codex release window? I hope so; but with Eldar, Astra Miliatrum and I guess a big EC release on the horizon, it seems a bit soon-ish. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 1 hour ago, Mogger351 said: Sign of a codex release window? The bunny eared marines being previewed on bunny day would be neat hehe. ThaneOfTas, Dark Shepherd, Borbarad and 2 others 1 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 24 minutes ago, Borbarad said: I hope so; but with Eldar, Astra Miliatrum and I guess a big EC release on the horizon, it seems a bit soon-ish. Well the running order is: AM Eldar (which this forum has gone to great lengths to tell me could also be released before March) Knights Likely chaos knights as rumoured Then you get into the "definitely in 2025" pile: Emperor's Children Grey knights Space wolves strongly rumoured Everything else is a ??? I think. Borbarad 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbarad Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 53 minutes ago, Hathor42 said: The bunny eared marines being previewed on bunny day would be neat hehe. Sounds perfect, but knowing GW this is going to turn into an other Orktober, isn't it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 They still have a lot of codex to go. Maybe this edition will last longer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 9 minutes ago, INKS said: They still have a lot of codex to go. Maybe this edition will last longer That flies in the face of all evidence and precedent though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted December 23, 2024 Author Share Posted December 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, Mogger351 said: That flies in the face of all evidence and precedent though. Eh, GW could make it last longer if they think it'd be profitable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 6 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said: Eh, GW could make it last longer if they think it'd be profitable. They could for sure, but there's little reason to think they would. There are signs of edition refresh fatigue seemingly, but I aren't sure slowing down for a year helps that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 Well they have to produce more this upcoming year than last then and I don’t know if they can. Unless some just aren’t getting a codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 3 minutes ago, INKS said: Well they have to produce more this upcoming year than last then and I don’t know if they can. Unless some just aren’t getting a codex. Some won't, the edition assumingly ends June 2026, so there's room for 2-4 books in 2026. ZeroWolf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 Plus GW themselves now seemingly work in 3 year cycles, I'd say that it's a safe bet that 11th is hitting in 2026, whether we want it or not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 4 hours ago, HeadlessCross said: The original detachment rule is just +1S/A on the charge though, no? I'd argue that buff is insignificant as a whole with the already dangerous offensive output their units have. WE were really good back when they had good points, and it's because they can bring their forces to bear easy enough in their index detatchment and do what they wanted to; specifically, charge, and keep charging, and pin your enemy in. WE have fallen out of favor not because they weren't strong, but they've been pretty repeatedly kicked in the teeth with points updates and a few rule changes. It's not a complete coincidence that the things that suddenly pushed the Blood Angels into being competitive was making it so they basically became World Eaters when they charged. +2S/+1A to an assault intercessor is the same buff as a +1S/A is to a Berserker. That's my opinion, at least. Dr_Ruminahui and Dr. Clock 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 Man. I feel bad for any codex in 2026. They really need to figure out a better system. skylerboodie 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 4 minutes ago, INKS said: Man. I feel bad for any codex in 2026. They really need to figure out a better system. All we can hope for is that 11th is more of a side grade so the old codices are compatible and not trashed start of the new edition. SteveAntilles, HeadlessCross, CL_Mission and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted December 24, 2024 Share Posted December 24, 2024 Caffeinated hot take: the Space Wolves detachment will focus on the stuff they want to clear out of the warehouse before it goes to legends or be replaced with codex launch skylerboodie, irlLordy, INKS and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf81 Posted December 24, 2024 Share Posted December 24, 2024 Thematic-wise it would be great to focus on 13th Co INKS 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted December 24, 2024 Author Share Posted December 24, 2024 Inb4 Wulven and Wolf Horde Detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted December 24, 2024 Share Posted December 24, 2024 It's Christmas, Santa Grimnar is coming so I'm betting on old wolves detachment with a focus on Wolf Guard,Long Fangs, Dreadnoughts and Scouts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfred_the_great Posted December 24, 2024 Share Posted December 24, 2024 13 minutes ago, redmapa said: It's Christmas, Santa Grimnar is coming so I'm betting on old wolves detachment with a focus on Wolf Guard,Long Fangs, Dreadnoughts and Scouts. Huzzah for the old wolves! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384654-grotmas-calendar-2024-new-detachments-edition/page/24/#findComment-6082754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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