Lhykis The Whispering Web, Phoenix Lord and the new Warp Spiders

[Dr. Clock]

12 hours ago, TheMawr said:

quantity of datasheets is usually not the reason for problems... its the implementation.

Quite. I'm actually super relieved to learn that Ynnari isn't going to end up as a third layer of 'choice' on top of army and detachment. I've long hated the part where Ynnari has just been 'Eldar +1', and hopefully this is the end of that.

 

Essentially this gives me hope that there will be different keywords, abilities (probably not) and corresponding points on the 'Ynnari' datasheets so that the book is fully decoupled from Drukhari moving forward.

 

This also makes it more likely that harlies, corsairs and (hopefully) Exodites could also be available in the Drukhari codex, and maybe even get corresponding themed detachments at that point. My Drukhari have always basically been just Commoragh-adjacent Webway Beast Masters, so I definitely support both Asuryani and Drukhari lists broadening a bit from their original constraints to bring in more options for small 'auxiliary warbands' in the main list. 

 

With Spiders and Scourges both over 20 points a head currently, and Hawks at 17 each, the full 9x5 jumpy (non-FW) shooters and action monkeys is 990 points. Not too bad as half a paper/water list, but it's still super amusing that 1W T3 spiders are more expensive than Jump Intercessors. That said, Spiders are soooo fun to use right now, so I don't ever feel bad paying the premium on my old 2x5.

 

Cheers,

 

The Good Doctor.

[Karhedron]

1 hour ago, Dr. Clock said:

but it's still super amusing that 1W T3 spiders are more expensive than Jump Intercessors.

 

True but they are armed with Devastating Wound flamers which means they can drop in and shred a target. JAIs struggle to pull off a charge out of Deep Strike meaning you need to think more about staging etc.

[ThePenitentOne]

When I look at Ynnari, I think of the Crusade/ Spec Op potential. 9th had Crusade content for Asuryani (the Path system), Harlequins (performances) and Ynnari (Spirit powers). I really liked the the stuff for Harlequins and Asuryani, but I always thought the Ynnari stuff fell a bit flat. I like the idea of playing games where individual members of the Triumvirate ally into other armies and earn the trust of units within those armies... And then peels them away from their original army as they go deeper into the cult.

 

This, to me, is the quintessential Ynnari story. Ultimately, a Ynnari Crusade is looking to recruit converts to find the croneswords; you want to discover them and grow your Ynnari roster to strikeforce or onslaught size; that final climactic battle is in the realm of Slaanesh against a dedicated Daemonhost with the fifth and final Cronesword as the prize.

 

That or something like it. 

 

Spoiler for offtopic rules example:

So Yvraine or the Visarch can join any eldar basic infantry unit; if the unit survives the battle, the Ynnari roll a d6; on a six, the unit is elgible to join the Ynnari army in subsequent battles provided it does not exceed your supply limit. You get +1 to the roll

 

-for every Agenda the unit scores

-for every enemy unit they destroy

-if their army won the game

 

So you start with the Triumvirate. Those are the only models on your roster that can fight as a Ynnari army at the start of the crusade. Without checking points, in your first battle, you might field a Drukhari army- An Archon leading Incubi and Yvraine leading Kabalites. If Yvraine's unit survives, they win, they score an agenda and they destroy a unit, on a 4+, the unit gains the ability to fight in a Ynnari army.

 

when such a unit fights with a Ynnari army, if that unit survives, they must roll a d6; on a six, they become so dedicated to the Ynnari cause that they ONLY fight in Ynarri armies from that point forward, and the same bonuses apply to the roll.

 

This simulates an interesting little change to how you field your armies as the Ynnari seek converts. You'll never lose a unit, but that unit may change its allegiance over the lifespan of the campaign. If you want Drukhari to fight as Ynnari soldiers? Go recruit them. A Harlequin Troupe? Same. It'll be a while before you can field 2k of Ynnari, but when it happens, it'll be the culmination of the conversion stories for every unit in the battle.

[Halandaar]

New Eldar up for pre-order on Saturday

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ryr2r2tf/sunday-preview-its-beginning-to-look-a-lot-like-rhana-dandra/

 

Also GW, are you kidding me right now? In the same month as Krieg? Right after Christmas?! Just rude.

[jimbo1701]

No launch set which is unusual but not surprising seeing as we would have heard about it at lvo if it were coming. 

[DemonGSides]

2 hours ago, jimbo1701 said:

No launch set which is unusual but not surprising seeing as we would have heard about it at lvo if it were coming. 

 

You would've heard about an Army Box when these were revealed.

 

No battleforce is the bigger head scratcher. 

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

It's really refeshing to see GW just get on and release the miniatures rather than an 'early access' army box and splitting the release over several weeks. Just get the miniatures out the door. 

 

They are fantastic looking models. Especially Fuegan and the Fire Dragons. 

 

I'm not very familiar with the Eldar Range, are their any Phoenix Lords and/or Aspect Warriors still waiting for an update?

[Xirix]

20 minutes ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

It's really refeshing to see GW just get on and release the miniatures rather than an 'early access' army box and splitting the release over several weeks. Just get the miniatures out the door. 

 

They are fantastic looking models. Especially Fuegan and the Fire Dragons. 

 

I'm not very familiar with the Eldar Range, are their any Phoenix Lords and/or Aspect Warriors still waiting for an update?

The Forgeworld Shadow Spectres and their lord aside, it's only poor Karandras who's waiting to be plastic.

[01RTB01]

4 hours ago, Halandaar said:

New Eldar up for pre-order on Saturday

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ryr2r2tf/sunday-preview-its-beginning-to-look-a-lot-like-rhana-dandra/

 

Also GW, are you kidding me right now? In the same month as Krieg? Right after Christmas?! Just rude.

Need to get this lot out the way so we can get the main event of fulgrim and friends lol 

[Mogger351]

8 minutes ago, Xirix said:

The Forgeworld Shadow Spectres and their lord aside, it's only poor Karandras who's waiting to be plastic.

The dire avengers are showing their age at this point tbh and the shining spears are missing a Phoenix lord... technically so are Crimson hunters, but we don't need to worry about that I think.

[Karhedron]

46 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

You would've heard about an Army Box when these were revealed.

 

No battleforce is the bigger head scratcher. 

 

I was hoping GW would surprise. I was literally saving my Christmas money for such a set. I'll probably still get most of the stuff but in dribs and drabs.

[Tokugawa]

Are there any eldar epic hero still stay in form of ancient model? Karandras?

 

edit: sorry can't remember eldar names well. Did GW updated the leader of strike scorpions after their KT release?

Edited January 19 by Tokugawa

[Karhedron]

4 minutes ago, Tokugawa said:

Are there any eldar epic hero still stay in form of ancient model? Baharroth?

 

No, Baharoth is getting a new plastic model too.

 

[Khulu]

3 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

The dire avengers are showing their age at this point tbh and the shining spears are missing a Phoenix lord... technically so are Crimson hunters, but we don't need to worry about that I think.

Shining Spears don't have a Phoenix Lord because he abdicated. Iirc he failed his home craftworld or something like that, and left the galaxy.

[Mogger351]

4 hours ago, Khulu said:

Shining Spears don't have a Phoenix Lord because he abdicated. Iirc he failed his home craftworld or something like that, and left the galaxy.

Understood, but doesn't mean he can't come back.

[Doctor Perils]

11 hours ago, Karhedron said:

 

I was hoping GW would surprise. I was literally saving my Christmas money for such a set. I'll probably still get most of the stuff but in dribs and drabs.

Same here - in the absence of a battleforce now, I'm thinking Eldar are going to be prime candidates for a Christmas battleforce

[Halandaar]

Another consideration (for UK folks at least) is that the Combat Patrol magazine hits it's Eldar phase in the next couple of weeks so there *will* be some more affordable kids floating around (assuming you can get them before the scalpers do)

[Mogger351]

35 minutes ago, Halandaar said:

Another consideration (for UK folks at least) is that the Combat Patrol magazine hits it's Eldar phase in the next couple of weeks so there *will* be some more affordable kids floating around (assuming you can get them before the scalpers do)

That's a hell of a typo, but yeah I'm scooping the eldar bits off my brother who won't need them.

[ZeroWolf]

17 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

That's a hell of a typo, but yeah I'm scooping the eldar bits off my brother who won't need them.

Maybe they were channeling the Dark Eldar rather than their goody-goody cousins 

[Kallas]

5 hours ago, ZeroWolf said:

Maybe they were channeling the Dark Eldar rather than their goody-goody cousins 

Dark Eldar on raids are like, "These humans just leave their children lying around. You can just take them, they're free!"

[Bouargh]

6 hours ago, ZeroWolf said:

Maybe they were channeling the Dark Eldar rather than their goody-goody cousins 

I always though that from Asurianii point of view humans were either an invasive specie (in the ecological sense) or cattle (in all sense). Good eldars are still foul xenos only worth being elimitate by our beloved astartes...

[HeadlessCross]

1 hour ago, Kallas said:

Dark Eldar on raids are like, "These humans just leave their children lying around. You can just take them, they're free!"

Solid reference 

[SvenIronhand]

1 hour ago, Bouargh said:

I always though that from Asurianii point of view humans were either an invasive specie (in the ecological sense) or cattle (in all sense). Good eldars are still foul xenos only worth being elimitate by our beloved astartes...

That's Biel-Tan's POV. Not necessarily that of the other Craftworlds.

[Alby the Slayer]

Lhykis will be my only purchase for this aeldari release, for now.

 

I still have to paint the first wave but I have pretty neat idea about how to create a little diorama/scene with her..

[Alternis]

On 1/19/2025 at 10:41 PM, Mogger351 said:

The dire avengers are showing their age at this point tbh and the shining spears are missing a Phoenix lord... technically so are Crimson hunters, but we don't need to worry about that I think.

• Karandras

• Irillyth in Plastic 

• Drastanta

• Upscaled Dire Avengers

• Plastic Shadow Spectres 

 

Apart from the dire avengers everything here GW has acknowledged at one point will be coming