Krieg Boxset

[Norman Paperman]

1 hour ago, Matrindur said:

According to Auspex Tactics this will be the AM CP so the Krieg army set won't be the CP contents

 

 

They did announce this on the reveal stream.

 

10 Roughriders and no Krieg or even artillery make this a puzzling choice. Not surprised that Guard has low points value, there's still a lot of plastic in the box, but as someone who's looking to dive into the army with the Krieg box, I think this CP is a clear miss. No artillery, no vehicles, who's buying Guard because they've got horses? I can just play REDACTED if I want horses!

[DemonGSides]

27 minutes ago, Matrindur said:

Well seems like I'm not the only one who missed it since I haven't seen discussion about it

 

It was talked about in one of the other threads dedicated to this reveal, I think the actual Saturday Reveal thread.  This thread is about the Boxset specifically.

It's just an underwhelming combat patrol that feels like "Here's some leftover stuff" as opposed to a coherent force.  Sure a command squad can order the kasrkin, but they aren't normally near each other and the Command Squad is normally hanging with a regular squad.

Just a weird box.

This is all off topic anyways, since this is the thread about the Boxset ;)

Edited 2 hours ago by DemonGSides

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

45 minutes ago, Norman Paperman said:

They did announce this on the reveal stream.

 

10 Roughriders and no Krieg or even artillery make this a puzzling choice. Not surprised that Guard has low points value, there's still a lot of plastic in the box, but as someone who's looking to dive into the army with the Krieg box, I think this CP is a clear miss. No artillery, no vehicles, who's buying Guard because they've got horses? I can just play REDACTED if I want horses!

Rough riders have been a fan favorite for a long time.

[DemonGSides]

3 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Rough riders have been a fan favorite for a long time.

 

I think less that Rough Riders are unpopular; I think they're quite popular, there was a recent whole big discussion about them right in our IG forum.

I think it's more that this Combat Patrol makes no sense, when these exact units, almost unit for unit, are coming out in Krieg, at the exact same time.

Like, you're telling me this CP couldn't be the new Krieg Command Squad, the new Death Riders, and a unit of the Engineers (Or even just the Veteran Squad itself) and it wouldn't make a lot more sense both A) In universe and B) in marketing/sales world?

It's just a weird box!  One I'll probably get; I can TECHNICALLY fit another 10 Kasrkin into the army, I have room for another 10 Rough Riders for certain, and a command squad is just good ol bits box material if nothing else, but I don't think I'd ever want to play this combat patrol.

[ThePenitentOne]

It does make sense that they wouldn't want to duplicate the launch box though. Like, if a new player buys the launchbox, they can still benefit from having the CP as well, so they might buy both.

 

If instead, they do it your way, our theoretical player buys the launchbox and then looks at CP and already has most of what's in the box. You can argue that doubling up on units isn't actually a bad idea for our theoretical new player if they want to eventually have a 2k force... And it's true. So I could see a complimentary Krieg box with no duplicates from the launch box... So you'd get the command squad, the Kill Team and a heavy weapon team. That's a little light, so maybe you double up on the kill team or the heavy weapons, or maybe through in a vehicle.

 

Buy both boxes and you're on your way to decent army without a whole lot of duplication.

 

In terms of this CP box, it's just missing Cadian Troops- swap one of the rider units with Cadian Shock Troops and it would be fine fluffwise. And you've got to think about the company not wanting to put all their box set eggs in one Krieg basket. People who don't like Krieg would have no boxed set... Even if they did the no-duplicates Krieg CP.