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Inceptors vs Infiltrators... what takes priority?


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Something similar to this came up in a recent game and I couldn't remember which ability actually gets to work.

 

Is it:

a. Cannot deploy from reserves within 12" of the Infiltrators, or

b. The 3" deep strike over-rules the Infiltrators rule.

 

I've got the latest FAQs and rulebook but cannot for the life of me remember seeing something that clarifies which gets priority.

Edited by Forté
1 minute ago, Forté said:

Something similar to this came up in a recent game and I couldn't remember which ability actually gets to work.

 

Is it:

a. Cannot deploy from reserves within 12" of the Infiltrators, or

b. The 3" deep strike over-rules the Infiltrators rule.

 

I've got the latest FAQs and rulebook but cannot for the life of me remember seeing something that clarifies which gets priority.

Well I think DS is technically not considered reserves since DS units don’t count towards the max points that you can put into reserves.

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The answer is in the Rules Commentary:

Reinforcement Priority
While setting up Reinforcement units, you will occasionally find that two rules cannot both apply – for example, when a unit is arriving using the Deep Strike ability (which allows it to be set up anywhere on the battlefield that is more than 9" away from all enemy units) but an enemy unit has a rule that prevents enemy Reinforcement units from being set up within 12". In such cases, rules limiting the placement of Reinforcement units take priority over rules that state where Reinforcement units can be placed.

The Infiltrators block out 12" no matter what.

28 minutes ago, AutumnEffect said:

The answer is in the Rules Commentary:

Reinforcement Priority
While setting up Reinforcement units, you will occasionally find that two rules cannot both apply – for example, when a unit is arriving using the Deep Strike ability (which allows it to be set up anywhere on the battlefield that is more than 9" away from all enemy units) but an enemy unit has a rule that prevents enemy Reinforcement units from being set up within 12". In such cases, rules limiting the placement of Reinforcement units take priority over rules that state where Reinforcement units can be placed.

The Infiltrators block out 12" no matter what.

Perfect, thank you. Bill be bookmarking that in the PDF.

1 hour ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Well I think DS is technically not considered reserves since DS units don’t count towards the max points that you can put into reserves.

Deep Strikers are counted as reserves. First line of the Reinforcement rules in the core book literally says:

Quote

Some units have a rule that allows them to start the battle in Reserves, such as Deep Strike (pg 39).

 

The part which separates them is "Strategic Reserves". 

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These rules let you place units into Strategic Reserves - a special type of Reserves you can use to keep units off the battlefield until you require them. Note that while all Strategic Reserves units are also technically Reserves units, the reverse is not true, and so these rules do not apply to units that are using other rules that enable them to start the battle in Reserves (e.g. Deep Strike). Such units are instead set up as described by those other rules. 

 

Reserves includes Deep Strikers.

Strategic Reserves doesn't and have to point limit.

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