"....guard it well." A ----- ------ patrol log.

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40 minutes ago, Firedrake Cordova said:

They look good.

 

Valhallan Blizzard is very easy to use. Not cheap, but it is effective.  

 

My plan for the bases is a really thin bit of stirland battle more, then glue a rock or shrub or two along the sides. And finally valhallan blizzard lightly dusted about to add snow. Two of my characters have bases with pre made rocks so I only need really do the outriders and the heavy bolter guy from scratch. 

[ZeroWolf]

I can vouch for Valhallan Blizzard, I use it for my Tyranid bases, quite effective stuff.

 

Loving what you're doing with the Blood Ravens, bringing back the good ole DoW1 nostalgia! Keep up the good work.

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One thing I'm not sure about is the wheels.  I want them to look like proper worn vulcanized rubber but I've no idea how to do that. I thought maybe dry brush it with chalk, then spray matt varnish and repeat until the highlight looks right?

[ZeroWolf]

I'd say it's worth a shot. Worst case scenario you paint it black again.

[Firedrake Cordova]

Tyres aren't really black - Vallejo's Tire Black is somewhat similar in colour to GW's Eshin Grey. I would imagine that dusting the tyre with your favourite dirt- or dust-coloured weathering would do the trick. 

 

Vallejo have a few tutorials up that might be worth looking at - dry pigments, aircraft tyres, dry mud & splashes.

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I put the thinned gorgrunta on the exhausts and then did a heavy layer of streaming grime which I then wiped off mostly. I also edge highlighted the forward bolter guns and used runefang steel to pick out all the rivets. Finally, I painted in the bike controls. I used bright colours for the obvious buttons and did the display with Caliban green and warpstone glow across the top left to hopefully make it look more like a screen. Once the var nishing is done, I'm going to do gloss varnish over the top of the screen too.

 

I also took firedrakes advice drybrushed up the tires with white and tan dirt and grit to match my planned basing textures. I also redid the highlights on the intercessor in evil sunz to stand out a bit more over the subdued nnephiston red

Edited January 3 by hd3

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I added the squad number decals over the top of the squad designation decal to match blood ravens codex compliance.  Thank you to user: Sky Potato for telling me how to do it. I do plan to matt spray varnish all these to finish which should dull the decal to normal levels. The squad numbers double as production numbers, the assault intercessors were first so they are I, the outriders but second so II and intercessors III

 

I've started on the Outrider bases, painting in the road first by using sticky tape to block off the lines to get straighter road lines but one of them still ended up askew. But this planets' government is obviously slack with road OH and S. I've put on stirland battle more for now and I plan to super glue some rocks and shrubs and then later valhallan blizzard over the top to add appropriate snow.

Edited January 4 by hd3

[ZeroWolf]

Those bikes are looking really good now.

 

Great work so far

[Firedrake Cordova]

The tyres came out well

[Dr_Ruminahui]

The tires do look nice.

 

This is probably way too late, but I've had some success doing my tires in GW's The Fang (ridiculous name, good colour - kind of a bluish grey) with a black wash over it.   You can see the effect here - perhaps something to try in the future if you ever want a bit of a different effect.

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23 hours ago, Dr_Ruminahui said:

The tires do look nice.

 

This is probably way too late, but I've had some success doing my tires in GW's The Fang (ridiculous name, good colour - kind of a bluish grey) with a black wash over it.   You can see the effect here - perhaps something to try in the future if you ever want a bit of a different effect.

 

Actually I may steal that for my Alpha Legion bikes. I wanted to use a lighter shade of grit on these ones because the bases are intended to ultimately have a snowy theme. Related, the chaos bikes are one of the older sculpts right? I was wondering what size they are relative to the primaris outriders

 

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Glad it could be helpful - looking forward to see how you use it and how you might change it to better suit your own look.

 

Those particular bikes are actually the Dark Angels raven wing bikes from the Dark Vengence box set from 6th and 7th edition that I converted - so actually a bit more modern than the actual chaos bikes.  But regardless, both the linked bikes and the chaos bikes are older kit.

 

Don't have any primaris outriders to compare for you (though I am sure they are fair bit smaller), but I can measure either the Dark Vengence bikes and actual chaos bikes (I have those too) if that would be helpful.  What measurements would be helpful?  Wheel diameter and bike length?  Anything else?  Let me know and I'll break out my models and ruler.

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On 1/11/2025 at 10:34 AM, Dr_Ruminahui said:

Glad it could be helpful - looking forward to see how you use it and how you might change it to better suit your own look.

 

Those particular bikes are actually the Dark Angels raven wing bikes from the Dark Vengence box set from 6th and 7th edition that I converted - so actually a bit more modern than the actual chaos bikes.  But regardless, both the linked bikes and the chaos bikes are older kit.

 

Don't have any primaris outriders to compare for you (though I am sure they are fair bit smaller), but I can measure either the Dark Vengence bikes and actual chaos bikes (I have those too) if that would be helpful.  What measurements would be helpful?  Wheel diameter and bike length?  Anything else?  Let me know and I'll break out my models and ruler.

 

Base size dimensions, and the bike height and and length would be useful

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Okay, the base size in the picture is the old 73mm by 26mm "pill" shaped based.  I have since rebased them on the current GW 60x35mm oval bases (here is the best picture I have of them on their current bases).  As it turns out, if you were to buy a chaos bike now, they would be on a 75x42mm oval base... so my bases are a bit too small.  Incidentally, here's a picture of my actual chaos bikes on the pill bases - asides from being spikier and not having the hussar type wing(s), they are essentially the same as the dark angels bikes.

 

They are - not counting the base - about 30mm tall to the top of the shield above the front wheel, or about 38mm to the top of the rider's head (not counting horns, etc).  The dark angels bike is about 63 mm long from the front of the front wheel to the back of the rear fender - the chaos bike has exhausts that stick out the back some, so is a bit longer at about 66mm.  Hopefully that helps - let me know if there is any other measurements you might need.

Edited January 12 by Dr_Ruminahui

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I've started the bike decals now. I decided to just use the white numeral 2 for the sergeant's bike. I also bought the winter bases for my intercessors. I'm planning on using valhallan blizzard on the others so the snow theme is consistent across the bases.

 

I wanted bases that contrasted against the blood ravens red armour well and also was different from the normal industrial ruins I use for my alpha legion bases.

Edited January 15 by hd3

[ZeroWolf]

Nice snow bases there  Those bikes turned out great, looking forward to seeing them on their bases as well

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2 hours ago, ZeroWolf said:

Nice snow bases there  Those bikes turned out great, looking forward to seeing them on their bases as well

Yeah, once they're appropriately snowed and decorated, I'm hoping they'll look nice. I was planning on putting one of the tank bits I found in my bits box as a debris on the sergeant base to help make the slightly smaller road size appear more deliberate. 

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I've finally started on the last few models I was able to prime before the snow. Included in this group are the primaris Lieutenant, Captain as well as two intercessor bodies. I also needed a primaris marine with a heavy bolter to finish the kill team. This was one of only two models( along with the eliminator) I couldn't kitbash from my existing models. So I went with the company of heroes Heavy Bolter marine. I really like the huge clunky feel of the heavy bolter on this guy, as opposed to the regular heavy intercessor's one which I think is far too slick. The extra thick power armour also adds to the look. The paint scheme is mostly the same, except I went a bit heavier with the shadows highlights this time.

 

What I'm worried about now is how to do the cloth tabards. I want a grey/off white colour but I haven't had great success doing that colour as cloth so far.  I'm also not sure what would be the best way to bring out the details on the elaborate knee pads on the Lt. and Captain.

 

On an unrelated note, while Im very happy with 99 percent of tamiya's products, DO NOT use their brush on matt varnish. Now I have to redo the bike decals on this outrider after repainting it.

Edited January 25 by hd3

[Firedrake Cordova]

8 hours ago, hd3 said:

What I'm worried about now is how to do the cloth tabards. I want a grey/off white

Have you thought about trying Apothecary White?

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56 minutes ago, Firedrake Cordova said:

Have you thought about trying Apothecary White?

I've got that but doesn't it have to go on top of something else?

[ZeroWolf]

2 hours ago, hd3 said:

I've got that but doesn't it have to go on top of something else?

Normally a white colour first. It should tint the white to be more like what you're after.

[Firedrake Cordova]

3 hours ago, hd3 said:

I've got that but doesn't it have to go on top of something else?

Ideally over Wraithbone (warm) or Grey Seer (cool) for the "contrast effect" to do its thing - it should give you a slightly cool white/light grey result.

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8 hours ago, Firedrake Cordova said:

Ideally over Wraithbone (warm) or Grey Seer (cool) for the "contrast effect" to do its thing - it should give you a slightly cool white/light grey result.

You don't know if there is a Vallejo equivalent to either of those do you? I don't have those but I have to go to the only shop that sells Vallejo on the island later today to get the paints for fabius' armour

[Firedrake Cordova]

Pinch of salt time ... I've not used Vallejo's Xpress Colour, and haven't used Contrast much. Their Desert Tan and Grey primers are fairly close matches to the Citadel equivalents in terms of colour, and go on very smooth with an airbrush - I've used Contrast paints a couple of times over them and it seemed to work fine. Looking at Vallejo's Xpress Colour range, the nearest match would be Templar White. The other option you have would be to make your own with Contrast medium and acrylic ink (e.g. Liquitex or Daler-Rowney FW)

[hd3]

So I used Vallejo neutral grey as a substitute for grey seer. My plan is to wash with agrax, then highlight with ushabti bone and finally moving up to apothecary white. I'm worried though, I tried the apothecary white today and it was so runny I couldn't direct it at all.

Edited January 28 by hd3