Brother Tyler Posted December 31, 2024 Share Posted December 31, 2024 Another well-written Chapter. It's interesting to go back to the earliest posts and versions of the article to see how the Chapter and your writing developed over the years. I have the Eye of Terror file open on my other monitor and comparing that version to the latest version is fun. I also like how you incorporated Aerion the Faithful's artwork into your article. Codex Grey 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384776-new-article-index-astartes-vigilant-fists/page/4/#findComment-6084097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codex Grey Posted September 27 Author Share Posted September 27 After much rumination, I've decided to change the name of this Chapter from the Heralds of Light to the Vigilant Fists. Maybe nobody cares, but in case you do here's my thoughts on the matter. I've never been satisfied with the name, or any of the names they use to have. As the latest attempt to come up with a name that represents who they are, sounds cool (at least to me) and is reasonably distinct from other names, Heralds of Light checked those boxes for me for a while. Now they don't anymore. A core part of the Chapter's identity is their defensive flavor. They don't always defend, but do so more often than most other Chapters, in large part because of their role in watching over the Eye of Terror. Being a herald means bringing something from one place to somewhere else, which feels more aggressive than defensive. Vigilant Fists, on the other hand, marries the defensively coded concept of vigilance, which perfectly fits with their duties, with the symbol of a fist, a very aggressive concept, thereby creating a nice balance between the two. I still like the name Heralds of Light, but after some time I come to find it a bit unwieldy, and there is something about Of Light I'm just not that into anymore, which I can't quite explain. I quite like how Vigilant Fists sounds though. It feels more classic somehow. Heralds of Light might be the more distinct of the two, but that on its own is not enough for me, and I do think Vigilant Fists is distinct enough while also adhering to and honoring the naming-conventions of their two main predecessors in the Imperial Fists and Crimson Fists. The reason why I haven't changed the name before now is partly because I had yet to come up with an alternative I liked, but also because part of me didn't want to change something that has existed "out there" online for some time, including through various B&C channels. Still, I don't think that should stop me from changing an aspect of my own Chapter. Brother Tyler and Felix Antipodes 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384776-new-article-index-astartes-vigilant-fists/page/4/#findComment-6133949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 One of the interesting things about DIY development is how ideas and preferences evolve over time. Personally, I never had a problem with the "Heralds of Light" moniker, seeing it as being similar in format to the Angels of Vigilance, the Sons of Orpheus, and similarly named Chapters. However, as I always emphasize, a DIY is for its creator*, not the audience. Ultimately, the creator makes all decisions based on their personal preferences. Besides, there's nothing wrong with the Vigilant Fists name, either. * Unless the creator is creating the DIY for someone else, in which case that someone else is the ultimate authority. I've updated all entries in the Tabula Astartes to reflect the change in the Chapter's name. Codex Grey 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384776-new-article-index-astartes-vigilant-fists/page/4/#findComment-6134646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codex Grey Posted October 21 Author Share Posted October 21 (edited) I've been thinking about creating a more comprehensive overview of the Chapter's Organization, including names of key leaders and a visual presentation of the information. As part of this, because it's fun, I've been trying to come up with words/mottos for each Company, sayings that represent their individual duties, identities and the Chapter as a whole. Here's what I have so far: 1st Veteran Company(Master of the Keep) - Flame Keepers The Flame Burns Eternal 2nd Battle Company (Master of the Watch) - Radiant Ramparts We are the Wardens, We are the Walls 3rd Battle Company (Master of the Arsenal) - Blazing Blades By Our Blades the Night Ends 4th Battle Company (Master of the Fleet) - Ardent Arrows None Defy Us, None Escape Us 5th Battle Company (Master of the Marches) - Shining Shields Death Before Defeat 6th Reserve Company (Master of Rites) - Beacon Guard Never Flinch 7th Reserve Company (Chief Victualler) - Astral Watch Never Blink 8th Reserve Company (Lord Excecutioner) - Dawn Riders For Another Day! 9th Reserve Company (Master of Relics) - Storm Callers The Storm Answers to Us 10th Scout Company (Master of Recruits and Reconnaissance) - Moon Rangers From the Shadows, Light I think I'm happy with most of these, though the Astral Watch's Never Blink is both similar and weaker than the 6th's Never Flinch. The idea was to have something similar, almost as a rivalry between the two, but I'm not sure and I'm struggling to come up with an alternative for the 7th. I also think the 1st's could be stronger and I might change some around. I'm open for suggestions. EDIT: Also also, while I quite like By Our Blades the Night Ends, it might work better thematically for the 8th, the Dawn Riders. Maybe I could use something similar to what I had in mind for the Chapter Motto for the 3rd instead. Another attempt with a few changes below: Chapter - Death Before Defeat 1st Flame Keepers - The Flame Burns Eternal 2nd Radiant Ramparts - We are the Wardens, We are the Walls 3rd Blazing Blades - Armed with His Light 4th Ardent Arrows - None Defy Us, None Escape Us 5th Shining Shields - The Line is Drawn at Our Feet 6th Beacon Guard - Never Flinch, Never Falter, Never Fail 7th Astral Watch - From Stars to Stars 8th Dawn Riders - Night Ends by Our Blades 9th Storm Callers - The Storm Answers to Us 10th Moon Rangers - In Darkness, Light Shines Brighter Edited October 22 by Codex Grey Felix Antipodes 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384776-new-article-index-astartes-vigilant-fists/page/4/#findComment-6137729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codex Grey Posted Saturday at 11:56 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 11:56 AM And here's my attempt, in the same style as my Heraldry pages. Changed some minor aspects of the Company Words, and also the name of the 1st Company from Flame Keepers to Knights of the Flame. Still not a 100% sure about the 1st Company words. Might change that and other details later, but I'm happy for now. Most of the numbers were pulled from out of thin air and old Ultramarines Org. charts. If a number seems right, then it's intentional, if one seems too high then the Chapter's Combat Doctrine requires it, and if a number is too low it's because they still haven't recovered completely after loosing their homeworld Felix Antipodes and Lysimachus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384776-new-article-index-astartes-vigilant-fists/page/4/#findComment-6141111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted 53 minutes ago Share Posted 53 minutes ago (edited) As always, your design skills are top notch! I like the Company names too. The only one I wondered about was the 6th, which if memory serves, is the (sometimes) Bike-mounted Reserve Co, so I'd maybe have used the Dawn Riders name there. Also, the dawn kneepad badge would well with the orange of the 6th Co? Edit: that said, I suppose the Dawn Riders is also appropriate for the 8th Assault Co, so it still works Edited 51 minutes ago by Lysimachus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384776-new-article-index-astartes-vigilant-fists/page/4/#findComment-6141751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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