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[Tolmeus]

I am going for this beauty! Hopefully this story involves Fulgrim more than 'Angron - The Red Angel' did regarding Angron. That was rather disappointing

[Krelious]

I'm not really a table top player but I like lore and shiny bits im wondering if the Limited Edition box for the Codex would be worth going for or just the novel, I'd hope the scalpers dont come out in force for this release. 

[skylerboodie]

I don't like the look of this special edition, red is a very strange choice for fulgrim (rather than pink or purple) and, although I can live with the cover design itself (though I'm not keen on it), the plain white pages as well make it a very uninspiring and cheap looking special edition to me, IMHO.

[Felix Antipodes]

I have jumped off the special/limited edition train for the most part and this one does nothing to drag me back.  It will be the standard HB for me.

[wecanhaveallthree]

The Red Angel was a great Angron book in that it examines Angron through his Legion and his future, rather than have him stare deeply into his navel and monologue to, say, a dad he made out of dead bodies (thanks, Night Haunter!).

 

Fulgrim is definitely the kind of guy who will go on for pages and pages and pages about himself, though. 

[skylerboodie]

To each their own, but I really liked "Konrad Curze - The Night Haunter"

[Ubiquitous1984]

50 minutes ago, skylerboodie said:

To each their own, but I really liked "Konrad Curze - The Night Haunter"

Same here - it was one of my favourite Primarch novels.  I

[LemartesTheLost]

The premise listed on WarComm has me intrigued, hopefully Reid can deliver with this one. The SE is nice but nothing spectacular.

[darkhorse0607]

WHC article with Jude Reid about the upcoming Fulgrim book

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/uw9rmcys/jude-reid-interview-writing-fulgrim-the-perfect-son/

 

Sounds interesting enough, one line stuck out to me though

 

"Well, when we start the book, the Emperor’s Children are a pretty disparate bunch. Without their primarch taking an active interest in them, they’ve fractured into separate warbands, all pursuing their own ambitions and driven by their own cults of personality."

 

"Am I a joke to you?" -Eidelon, probably

[grailkeeper]

9 minutes ago, darkhorse0607 said:

 

"Am I a joke to you?" -Eidelon

"Yes"- Fulgrim.

[LemartesTheLost]

There was also this, it would seem that Reid has heard the criticisms around her use of scale and has tried to widen/largen things a bit. This has me more excited than anything I've heard about the book so far. A book about a Primarch in lordship over thousands of Astartes deserves scale.

[cheywood]

Reid’s biggest issues are lack of scale and an excessive use of action scenes as filler. Her prose and characterization are generally good. Hopefully this fixes the issues I think most of us had with her SoB works.

[darkhorse0607]

If the Emperor's Champion doesn't look up and give me a scene like McNeill did when the Iron Warriors saw the Emperor's Children for the first time and said "what in Iron's name is that"

 

Then I riot

[Bestkeptsecret]

Revealed by Amazon Germany:

 

https://amzn.eu/d/gAz8Udu  (the new Carcharodon novel)

 

https://amzn.eu/d/aX6D2yE (new Space Marines vs Death Guard novel, can a German person, please confirm if this is brand new or a translation of a previously released book?)

 

https://amzn.eu/d/2w0DZLf (Catachan novel, again I am requesting confirmation from a German speaker if this is an old novel or a brand new book)

 

https://amzn.eu/d/cf9PiSS  (Fulgrim the Perfect Son Paperback)

[Roomsky]

16 minutes ago, Bestkeptsecret said:

Revealed by Amazon Germany:

 

https://amzn.eu/d/gAz8Udu  (the new Carcharodon novel)

 

https://amzn.eu/d/aX6D2yE (new Space Marines vs Death Guard novel, can a German person, please confirm if this is brand new or a translation of a previously released book?)

 

https://amzn.eu/d/2w0DZLf (Catachan novel, again I am requesting confirmation from a German speaker if this is an old novel or a brand new book)

 

https://amzn.eu/d/cf9PiSS  (Fulgrim the Perfect Son Paperback)

 

• The new Carcharodons novel is set post-rift. RIP dreams of actually seeing some Badab War.
• The Ferren Areios novel is new. Time for Young to redeem himself after Leontus.
• The Catachan novel is Deathworlder, which we already have in English.

 

I don't speak German 

[Tolmeus]

7 hours ago, Bestkeptsecret said:

https://amzn.eu/d/aX6D2yE (new Space Marines vs Death Guard novel, can a German person, please confirm if this is brand new or a translation of a previously released book?

 

I am German and I as far as I can see it, I would say that this is a new release. I certainly haven't realised that this book has already been announced elsewhere.

[skylerboodie]

- Carcharadons is "Void Exile", third in MacNiven's trilogy (finally!)

- Ferren Areios: Master of the Rites appears to be a spin-off from Dawn of Fire series

 

Edited April 11 by skylerboodie

[grailkeeper]

1 hour ago, skylerboodie said:

- Carcharadons is "Void Exile", third in MacNiven's trilogy (finally!)

 

I prefer the Google translate English name "Vagabonds of the void".

[Preliminary Bombardment]

Nice new Carcaradons!!

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

Google Translate's summary for Ferren Areios: Master of Rites:

 

Over a decade ago, the Imperium lost control of the Khorsari Expanse. Hidden behind warp storms on the edge of the Great Rift, their worlds were invaded by the Death Guard, their inhabitants slaughtered by the servants of the Plague God.
But these are the worlds of Ultramar, and their protectors are not far behind.
Ferren Areios, Captain of the Sixth Company of the Ultramarines, has been dispatched to reclaim the worlds of the Khorsari Expanse and free them from the corruption of the Death Guard. But as the Plague Marines entrench themselves and the body count grows, Ferren realizes the limits of his Chapter. Trapped in the realm of the Plague God, the fleet fights not only to reclaim the worlds, but also to protect Ferren's humanity.

 

I suspect at least that last line is poorly translated (I doubt it's "Ferren's humanity" but instead "the humans Ferren has sworn to protect"), but my Deutsch is nicht gut so who knows...

[theSpirea]

My Deutsch is crap is well but I think it's correct, Menschlichkeit is humanity not humans. Dictionary definition matches it. But we have native speakers here so they can confirm

[Sothalor]

Ultramarines versus Death Guard?

 

Daring today, aren't we?

[DarkChaplain]

First off, don't use Google Translate, it's terrible - use DeepL instead! And not just because DeepL is German... it's actually delivering accurate translations that usually respect context and not just go by dictionary.

 

But the translation is pretty much correct. It's Ferren's humanity that is threatened, probably due to not only the corruption you'd expect from the Death Guard but also because his faith in the Ultramarines as an institution is getting challenged.

 

Which.... makes sense? Ferren Areios is the bloke who got introduced in Avenging Son, right from Cawl's Primaris storage and introduced to a galaxy much changed, and then he got promoted pretty rapidly, to the point of being Captain within the first decade of the Crusade. Ferren is still a Lieutenant by Hand of Abaddon, with Maximus Epathus being his Captain.

 

Epathus dies a couple of years after the novel, at least Ferren comes to Macragge to grieve for him and be elevated to Captain himself, as told in Nick Kyme's short story 'Solemnity'. Which is billed as a Ferren Areios short, and explicitly states it's been a few years since the Hand of Abaddon thing (threat seems removed, but others are not sure about that; Ferren is over it, though). Kyme wrote HoA and also the Sicarius stuff - and he's having a chat with Ferren in the story. Makes sense. I'd have expected him to be tackling Ferren in a novel instead, but am happy enough with somebody else doing it.

 

Either way, right now I'd peg this one to be during the Plague Wars, but it's a tight fit considering how close HoA was supposed to Dark Imperium already. It might be a cleanup action within Ultramar, but the synopsis would probably reference the end of the Plague Wars if that was the case. So this seems like a sidestep, not progression of the Crusade or the Dark Imperium timeline - but further Ferren novels will have to be that!

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

I will accept that the original translation was right, then. It just seemed weird to me that a fleet would be described as fighting to protect the humanity of a single individual, Space Marine Captain or not. But I guess hyperbole is still a thing.

 

As for Epathus, he died during Hand of Abaddon in what I complained about at the time as a very poor hamfisted way of elevating Ferren to Captain status within the posterboy faction. It was particularly poorly handled given that Ferren had already been promoted to Captain in his previous appearance but he needed to be a Lieutenant here in order to be able to be appointed to the Ultramarines chapter and thus be in the line of succession within the company to replace Epathus in a time of crisis. This would allow him to eventually have his status be made permanent when the crisis subsided rather than have one of the Smurfs' more senior Lieutenants or Captains-at-large put there instead.

 

So they just downgraded him back to Lieutenant between books without acknowledging it. And then they included an ironic testimonial about what an amazing officer he was.

 

(Yes, so amazing that according to the needs of the same story, he now hadn't seen an advancement in rank in the decade since he'd thawed out, even in the fertile ground of the Unnumbered Sons).

[Roomsky]

They should really stick to the rule of 3s and elevate Ferren to captain again in this book. It can be part of the BL house style.