Upcoming BL Stuff 2025

[DukeLeto69]

2 hours ago, FabiusV4lcoran said:

 

Agreed based on Eisenhorn alone.  Not even considering Gaunt's Ghosts.

More than 10yrs ago they were claiming Abnett had sold over a million books

[grailkeeper]

19 hours ago, DukeLeto69 said:

Actually I can say with total confidence that THE best selling author for BL is Dan Abnett. By a country mile. That is why he gets a pass so often to do his thang!

 

 

He's the longest writing for them and I'm pretty sure has written the most books for them. Even if every book sold the same amount of copies he'd be their biggest seller, and I'm pretty sure his sell more than other authors.

Plus I'm pretty sure he's senior to most of the editors. Some of them mightnt have been born when his first one came out!

[DukeLeto69]

10 hours ago, grailkeeper said:

 

 

He's the longest writing for them and I'm pretty sure has written the most books for them. Even if every book sold the same amount of copies he'd be their biggest seller, and I'm pretty sure his sell more than other authors.

Plus I'm pretty sure he's senior to most of the editors. Some of them mightnt have been born when his first one came out!

Indeed his volume of output alone would secure him best selling BL author status but pretty sure some of his novels are individually the biggest sellers too.

[grailkeeper]

Out of interest I looked up one of the commissioning editors on linkedin. He started university in 2017, which is 18 years after the first guants ghosts book came out. Its entirely possible he wasn't born when it came out!

[FabiusV4lcoran]

3 hours ago, grailkeeper said:

Out of interest I looked up one of the commissioning editors on linkedin. He started university in 2017, which is 18 years after the first guants ghosts book came out. Its entirely possible he wasn't born when it came out!

Nope.  It is impossible for such things without the perfidy of the Warp's influence on time.  People aren't that young, because that would make me...old.

[Scribe]

15 minutes ago, FabiusV4lcoran said:

Nope.  It is impossible for such things without the perfidy of the Warp's influence on time.  People aren't that young, because that would make me...old.

 

It is particularly grim, that people I would have referred to a children not long ago, can now have actual jobs and careers. 

 

I need to retire.

[FabiusV4lcoran]

39 minutes ago, Scribe said:

 

It is particularly grim, that people I would have referred to a children not long ago, can now have actual jobs and careers. 

 

I need to retire.

In the grim reality of the year 2025, there is only work.

[Taliesin]

Does anyone know if the Hereticus book would be available through the usual 3rd party sellers, or will this be a GW website only thing?

[Tolmeus]

17 hours ago, Taliesin said:

Does anyone know if the Hereticus book would be available through the usual 3rd party sellers, or will this be a GW website only thing?

 

Xenos and Malleus were both provided by 3rd partys. Hereticus should be as well

[Astartes Consul]

On 11/5/2025 at 11:19 PM, grailkeeper said:

Out of interest I looked up one of the commissioning editors on linkedin. He started university in 2017, which is 18 years after the first guants ghosts book came out. Its entirely possible he wasn't born when it came out!

Well I feel ancient…

[Bestkeptsecret]

https://amzn.eu/d/c8EJPZk

 

New novel by Mike Brooks. The German version is releasing in April next year. Solomon Akurra, Renegades: Harrowmaster sequel?

Edited November 8 by Bestkeptsecret

[DarkChaplain]

"The Horus Heresy Saga", 12 "core" books from the HH they chose to get new hardbacks with new artwork. Gotta milk it dry.

[darkhorse0607]

I'm not allowed to swear on here 

 

But 

 

That cover art looks like trash 

[Roomsky]

20 minutes ago, darkhorse0607 said:

I'm not allowed to swear on here 

 

But 

 

That cover art looks like trash 

I don't think it's great, but I do think it's much better than the OG Horus Rising art.

It's not iconic, it's ugly. Don't @ me.

Also, and I say this as someone who likes Prospero Burns better than A Thousand Sons: Why did they pick Prospero Burns over A Thousand Sons?

[darkhorse0607]

22 minutes ago, Roomsky said:

I don't think it's great, but I do think it's much better than the OG Horus Rising art.

It's not iconic, it's ugly. Don't @ me.

Also, and I say this as someone who likes Prospero Burns better than A Thousand Sons: Why did they pick Prospero Burns over A Thousand Sons?

 

No @ing here because now Im upset that they've flip flopped Captains of the Ultramarines 2nd AGAIN

 

 I just want to know where the head of the wolf is on his shoulder 

 

My girlfriend asked me why he had a cloud thing on his back before I had to explain that its supposed to be a wolf pelt but for some reason there's no head on the wolf

Edited November 8 by darkhorse0607

[Scribe]

38 minutes ago, Roomsky said:

Also, and I say this as someone who likes Prospero Burns better than A Thousand Sons: Why did they pick Prospero Burns over A Thousand Sons?

 

Wolf fanboys. The flame wars back then were legendary.

 

Never forget, Russ crawled away. ;)

[wecanhaveallthree]

What I want to know is what happened to the Tetrarchs whose job it was supposed to be to deal with all this kind of stuff? Hello?

 

I am extremely concerned re: Titus' main character energy. I have never liked this kind of intersection and in the past we've been at pains to avoid it (e.g. Kais). Tossing a Captain for him feels a bit rude, and it also feels like he's encroaching on the narrative territory of Ventris and Sicarius. I'm getting big Loken vibes and I don't like it.

[Felix Antipodes]

Don’t be fooled!  If these 12 sell well enough we can be sure GW/BL will be “forced by public demand” to keep popping out the remaining 44 novels.  Ironic that we keep asking for their early stuff to return to print but only get HH related stuff.

I cracked up that Beta-Garmon, always referred to as a pivotal battle of the HH, failed to make the cut.  Short changed again, as is all of Wraight’s White Scars work.

 

1 hour ago, wecanhaveallthree said:

What I want to know is what happened to the Tetrarchs whose job it was supposed to be to deal with all this kind of stuff? Hello?

 

I am extremely concerned re: Titus' main character energy. I have never liked this kind of intersection and in the past we've been at pains to avoid it (e.g. Kais). Tossing a Captain for him feels a bit rude, and it also feels like he's encroaching on the narrative territory of Ventris and Sicarius. I'm getting big Loken vibes and I don't like it.

 

I smelt a rat wrt this when I first heard rumours of something with the words ‘500 Worlds’ attached to it.  Didn’t know that it would involve Titus and his buddies but suspected that the Tetrarchs were about to be sidelined again.

[darkhorse0607]

1 hour ago, wecanhaveallthree said:

What I want to know is what happened to the Tetrarchs whose job it was supposed to be to deal with all this kind of stuff? Hello?

 

I am extremely concerned re: Titus' main character energy. I have never liked this kind of intersection and in the past we've been at pains to avoid it (e.g. Kais). Tossing a Captain for him feels a bit rude, and it also feels like he's encroaching on the narrative territory of Ventris and Sicarius. I'm getting big Loken vibes and I don't like it.

You know, 

 

We dont always agree. But.

 

This is my exact issue. Not only are they passing up the Tetrachs (including Felix, which apparently they're bored of), but once again, they're passing up Calgar (or this kind of thing would go up Sicarius' alley, or Cassius frankly). Not to mention the numerous successor chapters that occupy the region 

 

But to circle back to the Chapter proper. I am honestly not as big of a fan of Titus as some out there, so that might be coloring my opinion but I think he should be relegated to a position like Sicarius where he's present but is normally off doing something else now. This is the third time they've decided to change the Captain of the Second Company in the last while, first for Sicarius' character building (which, admittedly I am a fan of), next for Vigilus they establish Acheron (once again, now in new marketing Phobos form), and now he's gone and its back to Titus, who for no apparent reason can do all of these things, is resistant to the warp to a kind of silly level, etc, while Acheron is (by the wording of the article) dead now off-screen.

 

Not only does he have to be 2nd company Captain rather than the 3rd, 7th, etc, but he also has to be the one tasked with retaking the 500 Worlds, because of course 

 

@wecanhaveallthree put it well, he's turning into a Lokenish type character, where other characters are sidelined so he can be more prominent/powerful/whatever so he can be shoved in

 

Admittedly I like the new model, but I cant help but see that he not only got another one, but also got a special command squad, complete with the first Ultramar auxilia which is something that not even Calgar got

 

I am just starting to get tired of GW throwing characters away, or shoehorning in certain people that sell well just because they want to capitalize on the popularity. While I understand companies are going to company, and I am sure the poor xenos fans are rolling their eyes at an Ultramarines fan complaining about character issues from atop the large pile of books and characters, the whole thing is just getting old and its making it hard to get invested in certain things because you dont know if there's going to be a marketing based lore decision made that effects it 

 

That's it. That's my rant. Thank you all for indulging me 

 

Courage and Honour

Edited November 8 by darkhorse0607

[Tolmeus]

Honestly, I am surprised by the range of books BL or GW chose to reprint for the HH. I would have thought that they are going for the first 12 books in the series again and than produce the following next chronological 12 books as the next batch. But apparently they chose the HH books, which can still be bought now in the Online Shop as paperback. At some point GW made the call that these 12 books are seemingly the core of the HH. 

 

I do think it's great to get HH books again since we had just recently the discussion that these are still in high demand. But I don't like that they chose to print a "best-of-HH".

[Tolmeus]

4 hours ago, darkhorse0607 said:

I just want to know where the head of the wolf is on his shoulder 

 

And to add another one. Horus should also hold "Worldbreaker" at this point, right? Wasn't the mace the gift for Horus at Ullanor with big E crowning Horus as Warmaster? 

[grailkeeper]

It looks like Horises armour has the Broccoli haircut 

 

[wecanhaveallthree]

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We dont always agree.

 

Oh but we do. You just don't see it yet. Delicious friend.

 

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TITUS

 

I'm going to go ahead and inject some straight copium right here and now. I feel like GW have been flirting with making a prominent Ultramarine go to the dark side for a while now. Calgar seemed totally coded to 'fall' during Dark Imperium. And I really got the sense during trailer for 500 WORLDS that Titus is not exactly happy with his 'impossible' orders. IIRC, the original plan for Space Marine was to have Titus eventually succumb to his rage (and the suspicion of his brothers) and go Renegade - he was pretty severely battered in SM2, and Nemeroth had a good chuckle at his brother in SM1 - 'true son of chaos', he calls him, 'you will be joining us soon'. His laugh when he dies always gets me. Considering how he seems to be fighting for the 'common man' of Ultramar, and what seeds the Plague Wars might have planted, I do wonder if we're going to see our good friend break in a fun and interesting way. 

 

So maybe not Titus x Ventris, but Titus v Ventris? A frater can dream. 

 

OTHERWISE YEAH GET THIS GUY OUTTA HERE. NO MORE LOKENS. BRING BACK QRUZE YOU COWARDS.

[Nagashsnee]

You all act like we havent been over this 100 times before, GW and BL are TERRIFIED of getting rid of characters. This means that as hey add more and more named/special characters the stage get ever more crowded.  No one is exiting stage left, least of all a Ultramarine. But more and more people are joining the cast on stage. 

 

Titus joins a proud lineage of Ultramarines who are all 200-300+ year old marine veterans who have fought thru the worse period of imperial warfare since the heresy. There is no safer job then being a ultramarine named character. 

 

And its not just a ultramarine problem, Marines in general are ALWAYS adding new dudes. But they almost never ever LOSE anyone. Blood Angels went thru the devastation of 90%+ chapter loses without losing 1 single named character. 

 

EDIT: It just hit me, 1% of the Ultramarine chapter are named special character who have or have had miniatures. 

You got Calgar, Sicarius, Tigarius, Cassius, Titus, Telion, Tank dude,  Ventris, Ferren Areios and G man, you cant count the 2 guys with Titus i guess but thats cheating. 

 

If you add the ones in the lore without Minis....its more like 2%+. They are practically overrun with named dudes. After a point getting all of them their own special unique missions is simply not really viable. 

Edited November 8 by Nagashsnee

[Tolmeus]

3 hours ago, Nagashsnee said:

Blood Angels went thru the devastation of 90%+ chapter loses without losing 1 single named character

 

Hard agree and fair point. I also think that 40k would benefit from characters actually be vulnerable and dying. 
 

3 hours ago, Nagashsnee said:

Titus joins a proud lineage of Ultramarines who are all 200-300+ year old marine veterans

 

I mean, Dante and Logan Grimnar were once supposed to be like the pinacle of old veterans in the game. 
Thankfully, they retconned the duration of the Indomitus Crusade, but nevertheless each named character is going to be old in modern terms. Heck, Grimnar seems to be hitting the 1000 mark sometime.
Come on GW, give us some credit as readers. Game of Thrones has clearly demonstrated that a storyline can live on through the death of characters and even become better as a result. 

Maybe as a side question to the other fraters: Which named character was the last to actually die (Captain Acheran excluded for the moment). Has it been Captain Tycho of the Blood Angels?

Edited November 8 by Tolmeus